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RE: Concerts 2013
I am not off base. The very strong majority of the forum members have complained the last two years that the park has nothing but pop and how much today's pop music sucks and how the concerts all together is going down the drain because it is only pop music.
My point is that everyone completely forgets that there has been oldies concerts since the concerts started for the most part. These are the first two years that the park has had mostly pop music and so what if it is teen pop music. It is only two years compared to all the years prior. Furthermore, no one complained of the only 80's music concerts back two years ago, but they only complain when it is teen pop.
I am saying specifically that they need to have diversity and that no one on this thread has really ever been committed to saying they need diversity up until I started this argument yesterday.
Obviously the park is going to choose bands that bring in the biggest return no surprise.
That is a misconception, in fact the younger "teeny bopper" artist brings in plenty of families considering you have mom and dad and then one to three on average teenagers or children. These teens or children cost money to feed, must have concert merchandise to say they were there when they brag at school, and then beg dear old dad and mommy for money to play the super fun games for the giant banana 20 times their size.
This is another false statement. The 80's and 70's bands bring in the older generation that grew up listening to these people. These people tend to be in their 30's and 40's who would more than likely go with their significant other or friends, they don'ts really find games interesting, they can hold their appetite for a later dinner at a cheaper place, they really don't run for concert merchandise. In fact, there are a handful of these bands that teens and kids care less about, therefore if these 30/40 year olds have children they typically won't bring them and they just come for the concert.
pandorazboxx said:
I am not off base. The very strong majority of the forum members have complained the last two years that the park has nothing but pop and how much today's pop music sucks and how the concerts all together is going down the drain because it is only pop music.
My point is that everyone completely forgets that there has been oldies concerts since the concerts started for the most part. These are the first two years that the park has had mostly pop music and so what if it is teen pop music. It is only two years compared to all the years prior. Furthermore, no one complained of the only 80's music concerts back two years ago, but they only complain when it is teen pop.
I am saying specifically that they need to have diversity and that no one on this thread has really ever been committed to saying they need diversity up until I started this argument yesterday.
MIKEYT67 said:
Obviously the park is going to choose bands that bring in the biggest return no surprise.
MIKEYT67 said:
That is a misconception, in fact the younger "teeny bopper" artist brings in plenty of families considering you have mom and dad and then one to three on average teenagers or children. These teens or children cost money to feed, must have concert merchandise to say they were there when they brag at school, and then beg dear old dad and mommy for money to play the super fun games for the giant banana 20 times their size.
MIKEYT67 said:
This is another false statement. The 80's and 70's bands bring in the older generation that grew up listening to these people. These people tend to be in their 30's and 40's who would more than likely go with their significant other or friends, they don'ts really find games interesting, they can hold their appetite for a later dinner at a cheaper place, they really don't run for concert merchandise. In fact, there are a handful of these bands that teens and kids care less about, therefore if these 30/40 year olds have children they typically won't bring them and they just come for the concert.
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You guys got to remember, if you don't like every single genre of music, you are a terrible person.
You guys got to remember, if you don't like every single genre of music, you are a terrible person.
RE: Concerts 2013
I was going to stay out of this series of comments, but this description of the Generation X'ers in regards to concert-going has me a bit mystified. Though I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions, I would have thought the opposite would be more accurate. It is for me and most other 30/40 somethings I know.Party Rocker said:
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This is like talking to a brick wall. How is it being selfish if people want more than just pop? You aren't making sense PR.
This is like talking to a brick wall. How is it being selfish if people want more than just pop? You aren't making sense PR.
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I think you are confused there PR. Those people in their 30's tend to be the ones with ACTUAL money to spend. Therefor, they will more than likely be the ones to buy dinner, alcohol(insane profit margin), shirts, mugs, etc. If there is one thing i've learned, people will spend money for convince. 30 somethings won't be the ones to pack lunch and then go back out to their car to eat, they will just buy food in the park. My parents go to the park mainly for the food, atmosphere, shows, etc. They care very little of the next 500ft vertical drop explosion coaster the park will be putting in the park. Yet they spend a few hundred on whatever every time they go. So you better believe they will be there for the Food and Wine festival. It caters toward that category of park goers. It's part of the parks plan to cater to everyone. Its very simple economics.
But yes, 30 somethings wont be buying lightswords.
Party Rocker said:
I think you are confused there PR. Those people in their 30's tend to be the ones with ACTUAL money to spend. Therefor, they will more than likely be the ones to buy dinner, alcohol(insane profit margin), shirts, mugs, etc. If there is one thing i've learned, people will spend money for convince. 30 somethings won't be the ones to pack lunch and then go back out to their car to eat, they will just buy food in the park. My parents go to the park mainly for the food, atmosphere, shows, etc. They care very little of the next 500ft vertical drop explosion coaster the park will be putting in the park. Yet they spend a few hundred on whatever every time they go. So you better believe they will be there for the Food and Wine festival. It caters toward that category of park goers. It's part of the parks plan to cater to everyone. Its very simple economics.
But yes, 30 somethings wont be buying lightswords.
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I am saying it is selfish to just want 80s music, which is how this forum tends to be like. No one said they wanted more than just pop, they only say they want 80s until recently when I brought up this argument.
I am saying it is selfish to just want 80s music, which is how this forum tends to be like. No one said they wanted more than just pop, they only say they want 80s until recently when I brought up this argument.
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Yeah, stop being so selfish, guys. YOU AREN'T THE ONLY ONES THE PARK HAS TO CONSIDER!!!!
Yeah, stop being so selfish, guys. YOU AREN'T THE ONLY ONES THE PARK HAS TO CONSIDER!!!!
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This statement is clearly a sign of arrogance. Is this really the kind of person we want moderating our forums? Of course it isn't.
David said:
This statement is clearly a sign of arrogance. Is this really the kind of person we want moderating our forums? Of course it isn't.
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There are certain things that age group will buy and yes it can tend to be very profitable, but my point is those are the demographics for those kinds of concerts. However, kids who beg and plead their parents for moey for this and money for that spend more because there are moer people to feed, more people to buy merchandise, and plus they want to make their children have the best time ever.
I think a family of four spends much more than an 30-40 aged couple. They do have their own spending demographics but I think this is a basic thing. More people = more money being spent; although this is most of the time and an averaged guess, I will say there are very thrifty people out there.
There are certain things that age group will buy and yes it can tend to be very profitable, but my point is those are the demographics for those kinds of concerts. However, kids who beg and plead their parents for moey for this and money for that spend more because there are moer people to feed, more people to buy merchandise, and plus they want to make their children have the best time ever.
I think a family of four spends much more than an 30-40 aged couple. They do have their own spending demographics but I think this is a basic thing. More people = more money being spent; although this is most of the time and an averaged guess, I will say there are very thrifty people out there.
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PR you are straight lying now. I suggest you read a few of the pages from the concerts 2012 thread.
http://forum.parkfans.net/thread-1127.html
There's actually a lot of compliments towards the pop. Of course there are complaints too. But not this one sidedness you are claiming.
PR you are straight lying now. I suggest you read a few of the pages from the concerts 2012 thread.
http://forum.parkfans.net/thread-1127.html
There's actually a lot of compliments towards the pop. Of course there are complaints too. But not this one sidedness you are claiming.
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Thanks for proving my point. You can twist any concert to be profitable to any demographic. You clearly stated that 30 somethings wouldn't spend money, but clearly they would. Welcome to the corporate thought process. Someone who knows much more than both of us, or anyone on this forum, bring certain bands to the park for a reason.Party Rocker said:
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Families spend money. Not 13 year old kids. The park should hold concerts that are suitable for the entire family. If that means more bands like Styx coming to perform, I'd totally support that.
The 30-40 year old couple is bound to have kids anyway. Why not have music that appeals to them? Everyone hated Entwined because it wasn't geared towards an older audience. The concerts should be the same.
Families spend money. Not 13 year old kids. The park should hold concerts that are suitable for the entire family. If that means more bands like Styx coming to perform, I'd totally support that.
The 30-40 year old couple is bound to have kids anyway. Why not have music that appeals to them? Everyone hated Entwined because it wasn't geared towards an older audience. The concerts should be the same.