I have observed over the years that in general they don’t really check strollers very carefully.
Also, Busch already has a bag policy in place:
Also, Busch already has a bag policy in place:
Busch Brawls
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In my opinion, people who really want to get things into the park will find a way to do so. I think the park's efforts are far better focused on keeping and kicking troublemakers out from the start rather then trying to let them in unarmed. It will definitely require a more extensive strategy, but it seems necessary at this point.
For sure agreed. It's a multiple part issue with that one though right? How did the weapon get in is step number one. I know we can say people who want to get things in will find a way, but they still need to find out what the breakdown was.
But yea I agree on being focused on keeping them out. I think that one is more multi-level too. Separate tickets, actual consequences for actions, and I'll say it again because nothing makes people perk up - go after them legally.
The issue I have, on the parks behalf, is I just don't know what the answer really is because this seems as much a societal issue as it is a park issue. I tend to think that bad actors are always going to be bad actors, and as a place like BGW sometimes the only thing you can do is react. Now the more you can minimize it, the less it will cost you; but in order to minimize it you need to spend a lot up front.
This is one of the few times I feel like there should be some agreement: I feel bad BGW is going to spend this money because people are assholes.
How are all these immature selfish ass teenagers getting money to go to the parks anyway. Its not cheap now a days? Are they getting free tickets from the season pass members? Or are people out here really spending their hard earned money to just act like a toolbag 24/7
It probably doesn’t help that BGW keeps offering discounts and deals on Fun Cards and tickets. They devalue the entire event and reduce the profits that could theoretically be rolled back into security, entertainment, and attractions. This was what you can get right now:
Even then though a group of young teens spending 50+ a ticket... surely you wouldn't risk being banned and kicked out wasting your money.
Although semi-unlikely, that doesn’t stop parents from purchasing their teen’s passes. Which in turn could also be a catalyst since it’s not coming out of said teens pocket making it essentially valueless (if that’s the right word) because it’s not their money they’re wasting.
Adolescents empirically take greater risks than adults. It may be because their brains haven’t finished developing. This article is a bit out of date, but it explains some of the research.
A Social Neuroscience Perspective on Adolescent Risk-Taking - PMC
This article proposes a framework for theory and research on risk-taking that is informed by developmental neuroscience. Two fundamental questions motivate this review. First, why does risk-taking increase between childhood and adolescence? Second, ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
About 12-15 years ago, my neighbor friends and my family went to Dorney Park. This group of kids cut from the back of the queue and I was like no. So, I spoke up, told them to get back to their spot. We argued for a good minute and they still moved up. My midwestern transplant neighbor was like "OMG are you insane??" I replied, nope, I'm not gonna put up with this crap.Adolescents empirically take greater risks than adults. It may be because their brains haven’t finished developing. This article is a bit out of date, but it explains some of the research.
A Social Neuroscience Perspective on Adolescent Risk-Taking - PMC
This article proposes a framework for theory and research on risk-taking that is informed by developmental neuroscience. Two fundamental questions motivate this review. First, why does risk-taking increase between childhood and adolescence? Second, ...
Here we are, a decade and a half later, and I'd never do that again.
The first weekend is the most likely one. Then they bring in more security and think that was what made it better. When they start a Halloween event way before anyone would normally think about the holiday, the houses end up miserably hot and there is a weird mix of people, fights are far more likely.
There likely will be some new moves on this front announced this week.
Have there been any other cases like this? (i.e. an incident in the park bad enough that they tighten down on restrictions, etc.)
Not exactly like this but there have been issues.
Seeing that problems seem to happen most often during HOS how much would it cost the park to have two hired security guards in each hamlet during HOS so they could respond quickly to any disturbances. Then have the regular JJC police for their usual presence. SEAS could easily cut back even a little bit on the money they throw at their stock buy backs to fund this.
I think if you are sneaking knives into the park that should enhance the crime because you are being premeditated.
I think you could make a shiv from the beer cans.
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BGW actually currently has multiple private security guards and uniform officers in every hamlet for Howl-O-Scream. My understanding JCCPD also has begun using plain clothed officers around the park as well.
Universal does it extremely well. Yes they have way more of them, but that’s beside the point. Even on the busiest of days I only wait about 6 minutes to get through the line. They need to put this style in. Disney actually just started to do that as well. I’m all for a slower entry experience IF it means I can go in the park and not chance getting STABBED.
For the record, some Six Flags parks (America and New England are the ones I'm immediately remembering) already use X-ray bag scanners too. It's not tech that's reserved for only the biggest and best parks anymore!
Honestly at this point just shut it down. I know its a cash grab for BGW, but it will do more harm to their reputation than the sales they will make.
I understand this will likely cause downvotes and be a hot topic, but the fact its become a running joke about how many brawls will happen and a weekly event on the news makes me believe it would be better left on the shelf.
I understand this will likely cause downvotes and be a hot topic, but the fact its become a running joke about how many brawls will happen and a weekly event on the news makes me believe it would be better left on the shelf.