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Well the idea is that these "activists" believe they are there only to make profit off of these poor animals. That was the reasoning for including the "money first" into the post.
 
NONE of these animals, besides Tilikum, was caught in the wild. All were bred in captivity, and for you who believe that shit rag of a film you are as blind as Anne Frank!
 
I didn't know Anne Frank was blind? And I even visited her house, lovely place with lots of secrets rooms.

Lee if you go back that bill was already addressed by another article and I believe on the last page I posted a memo about the legislation to all SeaWorld Team Members from CEO Jim Atchison.
 
Party Rocker said:
I don't accept it, I use it as a way of describing their views.

I wasn't clear.

If you allow your opponent to frame the debate, you have given him an advantage. It generally more effective to ignore his "assumptions" and base your arguments on your own.
 
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But when making a compelling argument you need to appeal to your audience and make them feel like you understand them, rather than isolate them away from you entirely. You can't just spit out facts and people accept them. You need to have people feel in order for them to actually listen and hopefully accept your view. It's very much like compromising except, you can attract your listeners attention without actually changing your views.

I was only using the phrase as a way to show that these people feel this specific way. This is helpful in argument because it can be used to create an emotional feel towards them to help them listen to our views and hopefully accept them, if we were to argue that phrase in a certain way.

For example, people claim that SeaWorld is a greedy company because they are for profit and use the animals on display as a primary source of profit. Well you can appeal to that audience by saying that SeaWOrld's profits are used to fund research and education projects that help and aide in conservation and keeping their animals safe and healthy.

That helps them understand that while yes they do make profits, those profits are not just siting there collecting dust. They are used for beneficial programs and such.
 
SeaWorld appeal of OSHA citations denied

(CNN) -- In a closely watched ruling among those who criticize the captivity of marine mammals, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit on Friday denied SeaWorld's appeal of safety citations issued by the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration after the death of a trainer.

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Looking at captions, how is this for inflammatory word choice.  They have a clear bias:

Today, there are 45 captive orcas performing at about 10 parks across the world, most of them born in captivity. Here, orcas perform at the Marineland aquatic park in Antibes, in southeastern France.
 
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Nic said:
SeaWorld appeal of OSHA citations denied

(CNN) -- In a closely watched ruling among those who criticize the captivity of marine mammals, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit on Friday denied SeaWorld's appeal of safety citations issued by the U.S. Occupational Safety and Health Administration after the death of a trainer.

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Looking at captions, how is this for inflammatory word choice.  They have a clear bias:

Today, there are 45 captive orcas performing at about 10 parks across the world, most of them born in captivity. Here, orcas perform at the Marineland aquatic park in Antibes, in southeastern France.

This bad boy is going to go to The Supreme Court. The same pushing for "no telling a woman what to do with her body" are the exact same trying to stifle trainers in the water. I see a massive hypocrisy issue being raised on how can one argue freedom on what to do with one's body and conceived child while trying to ban someone from doing something with an understood perceived risk. This one could get nasty.
 
Gosh I hope they win, they REALLY need to win. I went to Seaworld yesterday and today, and I'm just afraid without trainers in the water shamu shows will progressively get worse, because if One Ocean is the best show they can produce with the trainers out of the water, then things are going to get very bad.

Aren't they working on a rising floor for the pools, just in case there was an incident, they could easily push the floor up to prevent the trainer from getting pulled down? Couldn't that be their argument, that they're making it full-proof?
 
I doubt there is any way to make working with killer whales completely safe. What they can argue is that they have made every effort to mitigate the predictable dangers, and more importantly, the trainers are experienced professionals who understand the risks.

The basic question I see is whether the State has the right to prevent the trainers from choosing to get in the water. The dissenting judge called it a specialized industry and likened it to football. He stated that OSHA overstepped its bounds.
 
Matthew said:
Aren't they working on a rising floor for the pools, just in case there was an incident, they could easily push the floor up to prevent the trainer from getting pulled down?


....Where exactly did you hear that?
 
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A year after Brancheau’s death, SeaWorld announced it was returning trainers into the water with orcas, at least during backstage operations (such as checkups in the shallow medical pool). It was also spending millions of dollars more on other high-tech safety measures, including a fast-rising pool bottom that could beach any rampaging whale that grabbed a trainer during waterwork.

SeaWorld was also looking into “underwater vehicles that could be used to distract an out-of-control killer whale with pulsing lights and whale vocalizations,” according to the Sentinel.

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Something disquieting happened at SeaWorld marine parks this year. Numbers attending the group's popular US centres between January and March dropped, from 3.5 million in 2013 to 3.05 million this year, a decline of 13%.

Nor is it hard to guess the cause, say wildlife campaigners. They see a clear link between the attendance slide and the release last year of the documentary Blackfish, which told the story of SeaWorld trainer Dawn Brancheau who was killed by Tilikum, a bull orca. The killer whale, it was also revealed, had been involved in the deaths of other individuals while in captivity.

Blackfish focuses on the distress experienced by killer whales who are depicted as complex, highly intelligent creatures which are taken from their families, kept in small pools and given psychotropic drugs to calm them and help them perform tricks that include balancing human trainers on their snouts, rotating in the water to pop music, waving their flippers and tails, and floating on their backs. The film triggered widespread public outrage against marine parks in general and a petition, signed by 1.2 million people, was handed into the California state assembly calling for a ban on killer whale shows. Earlier this month, a bill legalising the ban was put on hold for the next 12 months. Campaigners are still hopeful it will be enacted next year.

It has been an abrupt change in fortune. The cheery family charm of marine parks – institutions that have achieved worldwide popularity and become multimillion dollar industries in recent years – have taken a body blow. For their part, their managers strenuously deny that any of their animals suffer and flatly reject the idea that whales, dolphins and porpoises should no longer be kept captive.
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Tosh.o briefly said not to buy tickets to SeaWorld. Then again he is a comedian so perhaps hehasnt fallen victim to Blackfish.
 
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