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RE: SeaWorld Concert Series Lineup Shrinking Due to 'Blackfish'

I'm double posting because this is pretty notable too.

The previously announced musicians who are sticking around at the moment are Justin Moore, Scotty McCreery, Martina McBride, and .38 Special.

Justin Moore's Facebook page is currently covered in comments from people asking that he cancel, Scotty McCreery's Facebook page doesn't have wall posts enabled but the comments sections of the page's posts are being slammed with Blackfish stuff, Martina McBride's page is being absolutely flooded with wall posts and comments, and, lastly, things got so bad on .38 Special's page that they've just posted the following:

To all concerned- This is a message from the moderator of this site and NOT the band......

All of the guys in the band are on extended vacations after a VERY grueling year of touring. They have been to almost 100 cities and are scattered in faraway places enjoying their well-deserved time off. At this time as with every year, they don't address ANY issues dealing with the next year's scheduling until they have reconvened. This matter will be discussed at a later time. Until then, please stop spamming this Facebook page with your protests. Also flooding my private email with your comments is useless as the band does not see those either.

Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Tom
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It's also worth noting that Screamscape is reporting that Jim Atchison said the following in an employee memo sent around SeaWorld Orlando:

Jim Atchison said:
Please know that we are proceeding with "Bands, Brews and BBQ," and are working to complete the booking schedule with artists who understand that for the people of SeaWorld there is no higher priority than the safety of our guests and team members and the welfare of our animals.
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I honestly don't know what band would be crazy enough to get involved in this mess.
 
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RE: SeaWorld Concert Series Lineup Shrinking Due to 'Blackfish'

^ This exactly. Couldn't agree more. Continuing to push this mess forward is just going to end up making things far worse than they already are.
 
RE: SeaWorld Concert Series Lineup Shrinking Due to 'Blackfish'

I disagree... you don't give in to bullies.
 
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While your right that it is not "high school" these groups use their misinformation as a bully pulpit to get their way. You need to challenge this misinformation, because backing off just concede your point and validates their misinformation. I see where you are coming from, but I disagree on your course of action.
 
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:mad: This is frustrating, and there is a lot of nasty things I could say right now but I agree with Peter, press on and don't give up!'

And Coke is not giving in. No way. They think they're smart, but they're not. We'll get them... sooner or later...

BLACKFISH NEEDS TO LITERALLY F OFF RIGHT NOW TOO.
 
RE: SeaWorld Concert Series Lineup Shrinking Due to 'Blackfish'

Yes, and I think everyone with an interest in the chain should too. It's on Netflix now. If you watch it, I think you'll see why it's making some waves. There's plenty of questionable information in there, but, at the very least, there are some questions raised by interviews and video evidence that I have yet to see SEAS challenge or attempt to explain. SEAS really hasn't truly responded to Blackfish yet and they desperately need to.
 
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The irony about this whole thing is how committed Sea World actually is to good treatment of its animals. I take a tour every time I visit the park, and they always emphasize positive reinforcement training techniques, regular enrichment activities, and the overall welfare of the animals. The same is true for BGT.

I wish SEAS would make some effort to conduct their own information operations to counter this current attack. One wonders if they are in some kind of denial, or if they think silence is the best way to respond.
 
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At this point I just have to simply shake my head to this situation. Like it was mentioned before, the only real safe way they could swing things around is to just cut out the bands and create a BBQ & Brew Festival. Similar to Food & Wine. They can keep the event going strong and not completely cancel the event so they really wouldn't be giving in to anyone.

Also, I agree with Zachary. Anyone with any interest in SEAS should watch the movie.

Before watching the movie, I was very strong hard against it. Thought it was nothing but lies. I thought SeaWorld was the absolute perfect of all companies.

After watching the movie, I am still Pro-Sea World but the movie did highlight some things that SeaWorld has never come out and explained or responded to. I still believe SeaWorld treats their animals very well and is a leading expert in giving proper care to wildlife, but I still want to get some answers for some untouched questions. Most of my questions pertain to Tilikum's history, as well as some of the inconsistencies in reporting incidents.

Just watch it and be familiar with it. I am sure SeaWorld has watched the movie a few times to see what people are saying about their company. I am sure they don't just blatantly ignore something they have never experienced.

With that said, I think what they should do is review the movie a few times and write up an extensive press release with solid evidence refuting the points made in the movie. SeaWorld will have to explain themselves to anyone that supports them or else their supports may start to dwindle away, with the exceptions of those who just have faith in the company.

Silence can be the best action any business can take in some situations when a company comes under attack; however, most situations probably end with small statements or what not from the company, and then there are some situations so severe they require the most detailed and long responses.

Honestly, if this does get to the sponsors, the company can very well face extreme financial problems and I have no doubt a domino effect of sponsors will start to disappear. Unless they were engaged in some type of contract that requires them to remain sponsors until a predetermined time. This is why I don't think Coca-Cola will back out right away, I remember someone saying they have a 10-year contract, so unless they can break the contract they should remain a sponsor.

Nic, I wasn't saying I am fully qualified to make any decision or assessment. I was just pointing out an observation based on my opinion if things were scaled down to our average human size. You are more than welcome to claim I am wrong if you want. I probably am wrong but it doesn't hurt to say hey that looks like this and then really think about it.
 
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Now that Martina McBride is out, the last three artist's pages seem to be getting hit harder than ever. Additionally it's worth noting that Martina McBride's post on Facebook announcing the cancellation of her show at SeaWorld has been met with overwhelming support. :-/
 
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There is almost no chance that Coke will cut their sponsorship, along with Southwest. There's a difference between the bands and corporate sponsors, corporate sponsors make cash with SeaWorld, and as long as they keep making cash, they aren't going to cut their sponsorships.

If your supporting that there's such thing as "Questionable evidence" in this movie you're are just as much driving the push against SeaWorld. As you should know if you support one of their parks, and know what they do to care for the animals, then you should know SEAS would never intentionally do this stuff! It was an unlikely accident, it was a tiny flaw that SeaWorld had in their plan to care for the animals and trainers. However, it was fixed, but now you're beating down on a problem that has already been fixed, and taken care of?!

If you were to ask those people who were interviewed, and the ones who made this movie, what they know about what the park does to help, and care for the animals, what do you think they would say? That's right nothing, because 1. They don't know what they do to care for the animals, and 2. They only choose to look at one mistake and judge all the park does on that one mistake, or in other words They're biased! So don't complain about how BGW is going to be affected by this in the future, because I guarantee you they will, when you were "questioning" some of the things in the documentary, which means you were one of those driving forces against SEAS.
 
Matthew, I don't even know the other side of the story. SEAS hasn't come out and told the public what actually happened- they're just silently sitting in offices behind locked doors hoping all of this will blow over. It's not going to.

There's zero doubt in my mind that today SEAS has some of the greatest marine life care available on this planet but, as I've said since the very beginning, there was a time when the things depicted in Blackfish did happen. When they occurred, it was the industry standard and no one knew any better, but it's clear that, in light of what we know today, some very questionable things happened years ago. All SeaWorld needs to do is come forward and show the world what has changed since then and tell people "Hey, we learned this stuff because we're working with these animals." They can't continue to sit back and call a movie containing so much video evidence slanderous nonsense- it doesn't fix anything.

Again, I think SEAS is at the top of the industry today and, perhaps, always has been but I also think it's foolishness to believe that horrible things haven't occurred all across this industry in the past.
 
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I'm sure there were things that happened in the past, maybe not as much at SeaWorld, which was even depicted in the documentary. They said that Tilikum was more punished at his recent facility then when he came to SeaWorld. I do agree though that SeaWorld needs to come out with something to fight back against this. I guess I just don't understand how people can hold huge grudges out of something in the past, that has been fixed already.
 
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Again, I think SEAS is at the top of the industry today and, perhaps, always has been but I also think it's foolishness to believe that horrible things haven't occurred all across this industry in the past.
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I totally agree, and I have to say I still think stuff like what occurred in the past still happens today, but CNN isn't attacking those people, they're attacking the people they can actually make headlines with, that's the only reason I think CNN did this was to make headlines, and money, not for the trainers or the animals.
 
I am not saying I am against SeaWorld. I am very pro-SeaWorld. I love their company, I love what they try to do with their wildlife.

With all that said, just because I know there is questionable material in the film and admit it is questionable does not mean I am going to try and shut them down. It just means I would like to know what exactly they are up to. I want to know what exactly the park has done to improve upon their standards. Yes, industry standard was to hunt wildlife previously, but that is not the case any more and they need to emphasis how that has changed.

I am not in any way driving any push against SeaWorld. I am supporting them, I just want them to release information that can help me help them.

Think of it like this, when you write a research paper you have sources that will you use to prove your information. If a research paper does not have any sources at all, how likely are you to trust that information is accurate? At that point you are relying on the reputation of the author alone.

I do have a theory about why SEAS is keeping so quiet. Perhaps they are just too used to being a private company they aren't used to releasing so much information? They don't have the PR experience to address the public to such a severe topic.
 
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