Blackfish Backlash

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Zachary said:
I think the Busch Gardens/SeaWorld connection has gone largely unnoticed by most people thus far.
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I've found a lot of people don't even realize the park are or were ever associated with one another. Many many people I have encountered even recently don't even know that AB is not the owners anymore.

Party Rocker said:
The connect has been made by a few people, but you really don't see the parks names together too often, unless you look at the company logo, or the occasional Shamu plush doll in a BG gift shop.
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Other than the now removed SeaWorld Busch Gardens Conservation Fund Ads that Ginny Busch used to be in that aired all over the park, no the two names were not ever really used together very often.
 
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The educated seem to be evaluating this on a more mature level while the uneducated are screaming free the whales. You cannot just free the whales and expect them to survive. On WDWMagic the thread on this really got some smart people in there turning it upside down on the PETA-types over the weekend. I will link it in a bit. They really hammer the points, that people need to see, home.

Quote from a friend elsewhere on the nets

"I haven't read the thread, and I certainly won't be doing it. My problem with this sea world thing is about d list celebs using it for publicity, which is just disgusting. All of these entertainers have had no problems performing at the parks before, and some did so after the trainers unfortunate death. Now that there is a documentary and it's topic of the month, they're all of a sudden taking action. Regardless of your opinion, don't take uninformed action just to be a "hero""
 
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A great response from a former SeaWorld employee.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/julie-toma/a-former-seaworld-employees-response-to-blackfish/10152163058773885

A Former SeaWorld Employee's Response to "Blackfish"
December 21, 2013 at 1:44pm

I've been asked often and recently about my opinions towards this "amazing documentary" that "just came out" on Netflix called "Blackfish". Having worked for SeaWorld for a few years, people are always curious as to what my opinion is.

"Julie, have you seen it? What do you think?"

Yes. I have seen it, multiple times. My opinion of it is this: I completely respect and agree with the underlining message- whales do not belong in captivity... but neither does any other animal (more on that later). I do, however, find the movie's portrayal of SeaWorld to be horribly offensive and misleading. SeaWorld is not a monster.

"But Julie, SeaWorld uses animals for entertainment purposes, isnt this wrong?"

Thank you, PETA. Yes, SeaWorld is an entertainent based industry. People all over the world come to see these marvelous animals up close, eat a churro, and then ride the latest roller coaster.

But before you go all animal activist on me, think about what your saying. Have you ever been to a zoo? Aquarium? Pet store? All of these animals were placed there to entertain, excuse me, educate you. And they dont quite do it to SeaWorld's standards (Ill get to this later).

"But Julie, SeaWorld took these whales out of their natural environment".

False. The majority of the whales at SeaWorld were born in the park. Yes, a few were captured more than 35 years ago, but that is how animals were acquired those days.

And frankly, where do you think the animals at your favorite zoo came from? Contrary to popular belief, these animals are not usually "rescues".

And to be even more frank, how many of you have a home aquarium??? Where do you think these fish came from? That's right. They're captured from their native environment, oftentimes shocked, meanstwhile depleting coral reefs in hopes that these stressed fish might make it to your aquarium, where, lets face it, they usually die.

"But Julie, the tanks the whales are in are like bathtubs"

Ugh. This one gets to me the most. At least use your own wording! Yes, the exhibits the whales are in are no where close to being the size of the ocean. But they are VASTLY larger than the size of most animal enclosures. True, these animals can swim hundreds of miles a day.... but think about other enclosures. Elephants can walk up to 40 miles a day and yet I rarely see an enclosure larger than 2000 ft.

And bird cages? Fish tanks? Why is it that no one is offended by any of this?! It's okay to put a goldfish in a bowl but not okay to have whales in a 60 million gallon environment? An enclosure that SeaWorld has spent over 70 million dollars to improve?

"But Julie, these animals are forced to perform shows. They're slaves."

Inaccurate. The whales at SeaWorld are never forced to do shows. They get an alloted amount of restaurant quality food based off of their fitness level, size, and metabolism. And they are fed regardless of if they do a show.

"But Julie, it's cruel to force these animals to do "tricks".

These "tricks" are actually positively reinforced behaviors that the whales have learned through positive interactions and operant conditioning. Studies have shown that learned behaviors like this actually increase an animals mental health prolonging their fitness and increasing quality of life.


"But whales dont do flips in the wild"

....and your dog doesnt naturally give you his paw when he wants a treat, but he is capable. Training behaviors like this, once again, encourages mental and physical growth. If the whales were incapable, they wouldnt do it.

"Cant they just stop making the whales do shows?"

Sure, but there is no positive reprocussion to that. Without enrichment, whales would resort to common boredom behaviors seen in zoos and institutions around the world. Plus, the interations the whales have with the trainers is a form of bonding for the whales. If they suddenly discontinued, the whales would display depression behaviors. I dont know about you, but I am highly against intentional depression.

"Cant you release them? They'll be happier"

Look up the story of Keiko, the whale from "Free Willy." That's what happens when you release a captive killer whale. They are not equipped to live in the open ocean environment anymore.

"Okay, what about a seapen then? Its bigger and the whales would be interact with their natural environment"

These whales currently thrive in multi-sourced continually filtered water environment. These means they are never exposed to pathogens, parasites, or heavily contaminated water. Putting them in a sea pen would expose them to a variety of potentially killer organisms. Not only that but they would be exposed to countless amounts of new sights, sounds, and vibrantions, causing an immense amount of stress.

"But Julie, there is absolutely no benefit to having these poor creatures at SeaWorld."

SeaWorld has impacted the lives of over 400 million visitors over the timespan they've been in business. That is 400 million people that have been affected by the beauty of not only the killer whales, but of over 6000 species of animals they would not come in contact with on a normal basis.

"SeaWorld is not educational".

Excuse me? The top leading research done on both killer whales and other cetaceans comes from SeaWorld sponsored research. Most of what we know today about these animals has been learned from animals in captivity.

"Cant we learn simply by observing them in the wild?"

Theoretically, sure. But any scientist (or grad student) will tell you how difficult it is to study animals in the wild. You can sit and observe 24 hours a day and only witness about 15 minutes of usable data.

And good luck funding that research. It's an unfortunate fact that people do not support things that do not benefit them directly. SeaWorld contributes millions upon millions of dollars to variety of conservation programs in the wild, including the Marine Mammal protecion act and Sea Turtle conservation. Finding funding from a private, independent source is unlikely and unreliable.

"Okay... well... umm... what about the dorsal fin thing?"

Dorsal fins are made out of cartilage, a flexible structure that makes up your nose and ears. The size of the dorsal fin is cause by a multitude of things, including genetics. Many of our whales come from a similar bloodline (not crossbred) and therefore have larger dorsal fins.

Although not common in the wild, a whale's dorsal fin, especially larger ones, may bend. This may be an effect from more surface exposure combined by genetics. There have been no indications that this affects the animals well-being in any way. It's a fact of life. Sometimes we get droopy body parts too....

"Why can't SeaWorld just go to be all educational? Obviously people would respect it more."

Nature Centers and educational facilities are amazing ideas and do many great things. Unfortunately, not many people go out of their way to visit them and they can go out of business (Chula Vista Nature Center...anyone?). People, unfortunately, are selfish beings. They want to be entertained, not lectured. So although the conservation message is taught at many of these amazing facilities, they are not affecting as many people as you would think.

SeaWorld's message is this: to celebrate, connect, and care for the natural world we share through the power of entertainment. People come into the parks with an expectation and leave with an appreciation of marine life they've never had before. I cannot begin to tell you how many kids Ive heard say that Shamu changed their life. That they want to stop polluting the ocean. That they want to save the sea turtles. SeaWorld is a memory that they will have forever and oftentimes changes their entire outlook on life.

So, before you boycott SeaWorld, realize that you're not boycotting the evil corporation "Blackfish" makes it out to be. You're boycotting Bruce, the 80 year old sea turtle who was rescued not only once, but twice after being shot in the head and left for dead by people who didn't care. You're boycotting Iris, the rescued seal who was found stranded and blind and then rereleased, able to see again. You're boycotting the 650 juvenille sea lions rehabilitated and taught to eat after they were stranded on the Pacific Coast. You're boycotting the baby emperor pengiuns, just hatched, ensuring the future families of penguins to come. You're boycotting the hundreds of dogs adopted from shelters thanks to Pets Rule. You're boycotting the group of high schoolers collecting trash off the shoreline after talking to the veterinary department behind the scenes and seeing the effects of trash in our ocean.

If you need a summary of what SeaWorld is today, I ask you to look at me as a reflection. To look at the 1500 zoological team members that provide the upmost care to these animals. SeaWorld is one of the worlds most respected zoological facilities, setting the bar for husbandry standards today. We are SeaWorld. We are the people who cant drive by a lost dog on the street. We're the people who stay awake overnight, waist deep in frigid water carrying a stranded dolphin that wasn't strong enough to swim. We're the ones that cry the moment a sea turtle swims off into the ocean water after being hit by a boat. We are the ones whose heart rate accelerates the moment a mother gives birth to a beautiful calf. We're the ones whose muscles ache after scrubbing oil off of birds trapped after a spill. We're the ones hand feeding that abandoned baby otter in the wee hours of the night.

So once again, don't believe everything you see and don't assume you know everything because a "documentary" tells you so. Educate yourself. SeaWorld is not the enemy, there are bigger evils in the world. We do not go out of our way to torture and "enslave" animals. We love and know more about those animals than "Blackfish" would ever care to let you know. It is because of SeaWorld, and places like them, thst you even care about these animals in the first place. I am very proud to be a part of the SeaWorld family and always will be.
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Yeah, behavior issues aside, there are still tons of factors involved in releasing an animal that's been in captivity. The fact of the matter is that living things adapt to their environment and changing that environment can do more harm than good even if it is more "ethical".
 
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It really is quite sad. Peta and others have made comebacks to SeaWorld's letter. I honestly feel extremely bad for the general public that does not decide to look into any side. It appears that most people watch the movie and believe it simply because it is a documentary.

Just in case anyone was wondering you can now buy SeaWorld Barbies at BGW. There is a petition going around trying to get Toys R Us to stop selling the dolls.
 
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Haven't heard jack from peta ever since they got busted running a kill factory for animals that didn't get adopted within a certain period of time...
 
Peta made a video response to SeaWorld's letter, basically stating that the letter is filled with lies. They only try to fight like three statements out of the whole letter. Then they encourage people to visit their site for the real truth.

They also posted that SeaWorld's shareholders are bailing on the company because Blackstone gave up majority shares and the Chair of the Board for SWPE got rid of nearly $1.3 million worth of shares.

You can check it out at http://www.seaworldofhurt.com/case-against-seaworld.aspx

Honestly, I don't think Blackstone and the Chair of the Board did so because of the backlash from Blackfish.
 
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PETA is driving me nuts now. They are just saying the exact same things again, arguing against legitimate facts Seaworld has stated by twisting them to make the average person of the general public astonished and furious. Let's face it, PETA is running out of ground to stand on. I just cannot get over how so many people think they're some sort of geniuses who knew all along the Seaworld was quote-on-quote "evil."

Also, I posted an angry response to the video Party Rocker posted. *waits for the "This comment has received too many negative votes to show" message to appear*

Busch Dominion - {a.k.a. Joe} said:
It is enraging to hear so many people thinking they know everything after watching a highly biased and exploiting so-called "documentary." Seaworld is one of the best and most respectable marine education centers on the planet. Seaworld's practices are far better than those of any other establishment of its kind. And what about the whales' tanks being "too small"? Yes, they obviously are smaller than the ocean, but the fish bowl your fish is in right now is obviously smaller than the ocean (yes, the ocean) it most likely came from. That enclosure for the lion at your favorite zoo probably isn't quite as big as the jungle, either. My life and outlook on wildlife has been forever changed thanks to the Seaworld family, and I know I am not alone. The trainers of Seaworld would put their own lives on the line for the animals, they love them like they are their brothers and sisters. I don't see PETA arguing against the fact that Seaworld has saved hundreds upon hundreds of poor, sick animals who would die on their own or in the wild. The whales too love their trainers and the engagement they receive, and would die if they got released. When you're boycotting Seaworld, you're boycotting far more good than bad. Just remember all the lives of both people and animals that are forever enhanced by Seaworld's message and--yes--love for its animals. Don't think you know everything because you watched a movie.
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Also, I would just like to point something out. While most of the time on this site there is always arguing going on over thinks like whether Howl-O-Scream should have more shows or more mazes, or whether Kings Dominion is a dump or an evolving paradise, I love how everybody here has bonded together and how we together care for the Seaworld brand, its welfare, and the true care of its animals. We all share the pain and the anguish this uproar has caused, and we are all doing our part to fight back for the parks and animals that we love. This is why I am proud to be a lover of the ParkFans network.
 
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...aanndd look at that. My comment has mysteriously vanished from Youtube. :dodgy:
 
That was a great speech, Joe. You should just keep on copying and pasting it on to the comments section every time it gets deleted, because every Blackfish supporter numbskull needs to read that.
 
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