Rumor After the Boardwalk Renovation & Coaster

[ski4ever5]

I swear to God if they ruin another serviceable Pinfari experience to make something new, expensive, and worse by Jinma I will actually lawyer up

You literally used the analogy of Intamin as Pinfari and Mack as Jinma rides… I think that qualifies as Mack hate!

And as far as no one riding Iron Rattler, there are plenty of other well received modern Vekoma loopers that prove they can make an excellent full circuit coaster, and unlike a B&M Floorless vs Dive, a Vekoma Tilt can use the same trains and layout style as a modern Vekoma looper. We could get Lech Coaster but with a tilt!! Wouldn’t that be cool?!?

 

[northdetective]

You literally used the analogy of Intamin as Pinfari and Mack as Jinma rides… I think that qualifies as Mack hate!

And as far as no one riding Iron Rattler, there are plenty of other well received modern Vekoma loopers that prove they can make an excellent full circuit coaster, and unlike a B&M Floorless vs Dive, a Vekoma Tilt can use the same trains and layout style as a modern Vekoma looper. We could get Lech Coaster but with a tilt!! Wouldn’t that be cool?!?

Those are revised de-escalated posts because people couldnt handle the original Mack and Intamin appreciation. You can see later the coasters about which I was once referring have been replaced with others that make less sense in context, because they were originally commentary on Mack and Intamin.

A tilt could be nice if it ran 3 trains somehow, can't find any sources on whether that's the case for Iron Rattler but I don't see enough block sections. I don't think multiple low-throughput Vekomas are something I personally want in a park.

I do think Lech Coaster has a layout closer to something I'd like to see. I've always thought Great Adventure was missing something like Lech or Maverick in that it's SOMETHING THAT IS FAST, TWISTY, AND LOW TO THE GROUND. NOT THAT IT IS ONLY INTAMIN LAUNCH COASTERS I ENJOY.

Sorry for the capital disclaimers. Gotta get ahead of the game nowadays.

 

[Gavin]

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[northdetective]

Doppelmayr 8-MGD is the only way forward

 

[Zachary]

I honestly believe they should. Legoland NY showed that prices can't be so astronomical that it's legitimately impossible. I know it can't be a top priority as very few people are going to get passes or buy tickets because of the addition, but like replacing a strata with a strata, I think killing a transport ride is a big enough sin that it should be righted for the long-term health of the park.

At absolute minimum, SFGAdv NEEDS to keep the existing right-of-way clear to maintain the ability to drop a skyride back in. The ability to install a transport ride in such a long park is a legit asset that needs to not be squandered.

 

[northdetective]

I honestly believe they should. Legoland NY showed that prices can't be so astronomical that it's legitimately impossible. I know it can't be a top priority as very few people are going to get passes or buy tickets because of the addition, but like replacing a strata with a strata, I think killing a transport ride is a big enough sin that it should be righted for the long-term health of the park.

At absolute minimum, SFGAdv NEEDS to keep the existing right-of-way clear to maintain the ability to drop a skyride back in. The ability to install a transport ride in such a long park is a legit asset that needs to not be squandered.

Mountain Creek in Vernon, NJ has a notoriously awful 'gondola' called the Cabriolet with standing-only open cabins that are terrible for skiiers and snowboarders and widely unpopular. It has merited replacement for at least a decade now and the discomfort of riding in ski boots while carrying your skis has definitely been the defining experience at the mountain since its Intrawest days. I don't think a single tear would be shed over its removal, and I also think the open cabins would make for a very nice midway ride for Great Adventure. That's my head canon anyways.

 

[Nitro230]

Mountain Creek in Vernon, NJ has a notoriously awful 'gondola' called the Cabriolet with standing-only open cabins that are terrible for skiiers and snowboarders and widely unpopular. It has merited replacement for at least a decade now and the discomfort of riding in ski boots while carrying your skis has definitely been the defining experience at the mountain since its Intrawest days. I don't think a single tear would be shed over its removal, and I also think the open cabins would make for a very nice midway ride for Great Adventure. That's my head canon anyways.

Standing only I feel like is something the park wouldn't be interested in. Feel like Six Flags' lawyers might have something to say about them acquiring the machinery for that gondola.

Doing some research though, there does seem to be one cable car manufacturer which still has a design specifically for theme parks. I mention them because obviously a modern resort style cable car ride is probably way too expensive for them. This design from POMA is an open air variation of their diamond cabin, on their website it says its made specifically for theme parks.



Really hope this is something that the park is considering, until the towers come down I think there's still a legitimate chance this happens.

 

[northdetective]

Standing only I feel like is something the park wouldn't be interested in. Feel like Six Flags' lawyers might have something to say about them acquiring the machinery for that gondola.

I'm not saying it'd be the best idea, but given how unlikely it seems that any transport ride at all would materialize, it'd be a cheap option to get something in. Probably even better if it were just the machinery (Given that it is indeed a Doppelmayr gondola that could be retrofitted and that ski lifts are pretty commonly relocated), but the cabins are expensive as is. Unlikely but a fun thought for New Jersey-based thooskis

 

[michaellynn4]

Are the Sky Ride towers even still standing? Forgive me, haven't been in years so I am unaware.

 

[Nitro230]

Are the Sky Ride towers even still standing? Forgive me, haven't been in years so I am unaware.

the machinery at the top was removed but the towers are still standing.

 

[SweetBabyJames]

Standing only I feel like is something the park wouldn't be interested in. Feel like Six Flags' lawyers might have something to say about them acquiring the machinery for that gondola.

Doing some research though, there does seem to be one cable car manufacturer which still has a design specifically for theme parks. I mention them because obviously a modern resort style cable car ride is probably way too expensive for them. This design from POMA is an open air variation of their diamond cabin, on their website it says its made specifically for theme parks.

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Really hope this is something that the park is considering, until the towers come down I think there's still a legitimate chance this happens.

I would pee in my pants if Great Adventure got an updated skyride like this. Imagine how great it would be if there was transport within the park by gondola in this updated format. Then imagine even further if there was transport by gondola from the various hotels Great Adventure will build (wink, wink) to the front entrance of the park. Legoland and Disney seem to be pulling off the gondola system nicely, hopefully Great adventure can follow suit.

 

[harry580]

this is a concept map I made when I trying to figure out the safari station in the frontier adventures area & the old great arena site and I made this concept map

the old great arena building gets removed for a western village and a wooden roller coaster while the safari station moved to the new safari village area of the park with a safari themed restaurant (the current safari station in frontier adventures area replaced by a new flat ride and the return of that coach snack stand and maybe another flat ride or the return of the teepee in the current safari station queue line/old western shootout building site)

edit: I can't changed the picture but I would love that safari themed restaurant to that randomly placed green line, so that restaurant can have a view of the lake

 

[harry580]

all this talks about what going on with the actual kingda ka replacement got me thinking, if six flags has a to reclaim the skyline more, maybe build a intamin giga coaster like the one at kings dominion that would takeover both kingda ka & rolling thunder lots (if intamin would to work with six flags again) maybe the family launch coaster could interact with the giga coaster

 

[Zachary]

In the long arc of SFGAdv's future, I think a full-circuit giga (think Orion) is almost certainly inevitable assuming the planned park revitalization works out. I also think it is likely a long way off though—like mid-2030s. There's a TON of other work to tackle before then.

 

[harry580]

I said that because six flags great adventure needs to get their skyline back but I highly think that this giga coaster will be a 2030s project

in the main time we have:
phantom spire = kingda ka replacement
potentially an drop tower = parachute tower replacement

 

[ski4ever5]

In the long arc of SFGAdv's future, I think a full-circuit giga (think Orion) is almost certainly inevitable assuming the planned park revitalization works out. I also think it is likely a long way off though—like mid-2030s. There's a TON of other work to tackle before then.

I would expect 3-5 years after Phantom Spire we’ll get the next big coaster (which seems to be a large scale family coaster), and then 3-5 years before the next thrill coaster, which would put it around 2035

 

[Eclipso127]

all this talks about what going on with the actual kingda ka replacement got me thinking, if six flags has a to reclaim the skyline more, maybe build a intamin giga coaster like the one at kings dominion that would takeover both kingda ka & rolling thunder lots (if intamin would to work with six flags again) maybe the family launch coaster could interact with the giga coaster

That's sounds really cool, this could work well with a Big Bear Mountain style coaster below the giga, probably B&M, but hope fully Intamin unless the roughness is fixed

 

[RDL]

The RT plot of land is interesting since it was taken up by Zumanjaro’s queue before it was torn down with Ka. If they’re looking at a true family coaster, I could see it going in that plot.

 

[GASM]

I would be very, very surprised if we ever see anything of the existing area we know as "Golden Kingdom" ever open to the public again. I full expect the area to be gutted and reopened with a new theme if that geographic space is ever accessible to the public again.

100% agreed. For those less familiar with the park, this also wouldn’t be the first time they “abandoned” a section of the park to come back to it later. Remnants of Old Country were still around for up to 10 full seasons after the area closed in 2007, finally removing Autobahn and closing that chapter in 2017. Metropolis may be the most fresh area in the park today, but it spent a very long time as a blocked off relic of the past with a rotting Musik Express, bumper cars, and the station of, unfortunately, a massive failure of a coaster.

I believe anything new in the former GK space will be themed to Plaza Del Carnival, or potentially Boardwalk depending on the land's final pathing.

I personally hope it’ll be split between the two. Knock out the arcade in Plaza del Carnaval and open it up to the area Ka’s station was in, and give the Golden Kingdom entrance up to where I’d theoretically expand Plaza del Carnaval to, to Boardwalk. Create a wide open loop and avoid repeating the mistake of isolating Ka.

 

[harry580]

I wondering if golden kingdom redevelopment is next after the boardwalk renovation & coaster