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Attraction Type
Roller Coaster
Attraction Status
Existing
Attraction Manufacturer
Zamperla
Attraction Model
Lightning
This is actually a very common industry occurrence. Park executives from one company will visit other park chains to gauge interest, hype and crowd reception of the main attractions and events.

This doesn’t mean that they’ll go back to their parks and add a clone or similar ride/coaster model or event — SEAS execs visited Canada’s Wonderland when Leviathan first opened but yet have to install a B&M Giga, but many park executives from various chains have visited BGW’s Christmastown over the last decade to see how they can do their own Holiday events.
Sir Mr. Unagi; so why exactly do you think they didnt go with Intamin especially since TTD was their creation? Were the MForce, TTD, Maverick, I305, and Shoot the Rapids issues to much to forget even though Intamin has been stepping up their game/being more reliable the past 5 or so years?
 
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^Pretty much but the Shoot the Rapids incident was the final nail in the coffin between these two.
Do you think Zamperla taking on these bigger than usual projects has anything to do with the Co-CEO of Intamin from a few years ago jumping ship to Zamperla?
 
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For me, This gives off the vibe that this is going to be the definition of a Boom or Bust coaster. This will either be one of the best coasters in the world, Or one of the worst, there is no inbetween. If it’s amazing, it will throttle Zamperla into the elite club of coaster manufacturers. If it fails, it may set the company back decades. Possibly even bankrupt them
 
There are many ways that this comes out being a fine ride, but I doubt it would compare favorable to the original. Too many aspects of this project are things that Zamperla has no direct experience with. I think, most likely, there will be some combination of:
-Reliability issues
-Rattle and/or discomfort from the trains
-Jolting transitions between the original track and the new, particularly on swing-launch sections that are run-across multiple times per ride.
-Weakness in the LSM launch itself.

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I wouldn't be typing this stuff out if I thought I was gonna be wrong. :p
 
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Do you think Zamperla taking on these bigger than usual projects has anything to do with the Co-CEO of Intamin from a few years ago jumping ship to Zamperla?

It's possible but I can't say for sure. But it you look at the landscape of things and how other companies (like Intamin, Mack, Gerstlauer, Vekoma) have been putting out products recently, Zamperla needs to up their game and expand their coaster portfolio. They don't have a big signature coaster yet and this Dragster redo could either make or break them.
 
Presuming this is Zamperla, or at least not Intamin -- and that's still not 100% -- it still doesn't necessarily mean CF won't ever work with Intamin. Perhaps Intamin would have caused extra delay, with Falcon's already announced and all their other projects. And their price could be quite high if they would be willing to do a rebuild at all, not just a little more than Zamperla, more like the price of a new ride.

As I originally predicted, it appears the track on the top hat will not be replaced, that's part of the whole point and greatly improves the chance of a good result esp. if Zamperla. is doing it.
 
Not sure how it's not clear that it's Zamperla with those shipping labels posted above?

Burnie Burns Conspiracy GIF by Rooster Teeth


Clearly Zamperla, Intamin, and Cedar Point are all in kahoots trying to trick the thoosies into believing it's Zamperla when it's really Intamin. Zamperla made and announced fake trains at IAAPA, Intamin shipped track to Italy and then, secretly, to their facility, Cedar Point installed a Zamperla mouse to bolster the story and manufactured the rumors about Intamin and Cedar Fair feuding, and now Intamin, in coordination with Zamperla, is putting fake Zamperla shipping labels on the deliveries! It's the only possible explanation!
 
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Just checking in on others. Thoughts?

Considering starting a "Shit it was Zamperla after all" support group. Reach out to your Intamin-fan friends. We are not okay.
 
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What the hell did I say to get 3 dislikes?
Presuming this is Zamperla, or at least not Intamin -- and that's still not 100% -- it still doesn't necessarily mean CF won't ever work with Intamin. Perhaps Intamin would have caused extra delay, with Falcon's already announced and all their other projects. And their price could be quite high if they would be willing to do a rebuild at all, not just a little more than Zamperla, more like the price of a new ride.

As I originally predicted, it appears the track on the top hat will not be replaced, that's part of the whole point and greatly improves the chance of a good result esp. if Zamperla. is doing it.
 
What the hell did I say to get 3 dislikes?

I assume people were associating what you said with the insane levels of copium on display from Cedar Point fanboys at the moment. Example:

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People legitimately are pointing to mass conspiracy vs accepting that, yes, Cedar Point contracted Zamperla for Dragster.
 
I assume people were associating what you said with the insane levels of copium on display from Cedar Point fanboys at the moment. Example:

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People legitimately are pointing to mass conspiracy vs accepting that, yes, Cedar Point contracted Zamperla for Dragster.

When people ask why I use “thoosie” as a derogatory term, this is why
 
I assume people were associating what you said with the insane levels of copium on display from Cedar Point fanboys at the moment. Example:

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People legitimately are pointing to mass conspiracy vs accepting that, yes, Cedar Point contracted Zamperla for Dragster.

Not my intent, which makes it more likely you're correct. I'm not taking sides on the manufacturer, just want a cool ride and an interesting process to watch. But a spike is the only thing confirmed by tons of concrete.

I do oppose stupid levels of speculation. They're REbuilding the ride, not building a new one. Make it go again, less total costs, maybe make it longer than 15 seconds. And while the new ride won't regain a top category record of height, it will blow away some sub-category records, namely it will beat the height record for swing launch coasters by more than 200' etc.

My main concern with Zamperla is that a lighter train may not be good for smoothness. But it will make it easier to make it go over the top.
 
Just checking in on others. Thoughts?

Considering starting a "Shit it was Zamperla after all" support group. Reach out to your Intamin-fan friends. We are not okay.
Sobbing rn I need this group rn 💔

In all seriousness I’m amazed they went with zamperla, I think either this’ll go two ways like tacky said

Either its amazing, skyrocketing zamperla from one of the worst manufacturers (in my opinion) to top of the line quality

Or its absolutely terrible, has issues all the time and then we have another intamin cf situation with zamperla.

Who knows. We’ll have to wait and see
 
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Sobbing rn I need this group rn 💔

In all seriousness I’m amazed they went with zamperla, I think either this’ll go two ways like tacky said

Either its amazing, skyrocketing zamperla from one of the worst manufacturers (in my opinion) to top of the line quality

Or its absolutely terrible, has issues all the time and then we have another intamin cf situation with zamperla.

Who knows. We’ll have to wait and see
I mean at this point CF is kinda running out of manufacturers that they are on good terms with.
 
I mean at this point CF is kinda running out of manufacturers that they are on good terms with.
It’s likely more a lack of manufacturers willing to take on a dragster rehab project. Very high risk and low reward if you’re an established player. However if you don’t have a great reputation already, this is much lower risk and high reward.
 
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