Loch Ness runs especially well when the trims are cut off. It was flying yesterday even in the front row.
The Loch Ness Monster
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I was wondering why it was so quiet while I was walking over the bridge yesterday, no trims.
I rode it Friday sans trim brakes. It was a vast improvement.
I really wish I knew. I was there, but I rode in the back car. It was a smooth sailing ride, but the loops caught me by surprise. Nessie has a way of "pulling" the train with great force though the loops; with or without trims. Without trims: Hold onto your Lederhosen... er... kilt!
Nessie is like my chiropractor. Any time I need an adjustment I take a ride in the back. Coming out of the first loop causes a whiplash motion on my neck that pops it just right. Cheaper than a doctor and fun fun!! 
Let's talk double loops!
Is it possible to have the coaster hit the loops at the same time today? lets look at what I know, then feel free to respond with any additional input you may have.
1. Most days LNM runs only 2 trains, leaving most chances of hitting the loop up to delays in loading followed immediately by a quick dispatch. has anyone seen the coaster running all 3 trains recently?
2. It is almost exactly one minute from loop to loop. this was probably by design. The helix and block were most likely designed to kill time for the second train to reach the first loop.
3. It takes about 1:20 for the train to reach the top of the lift from the time that the train is dispatched. This means that trains need to be launched before the first train clears the lift in order to hit the loops. However, it should be noted that it only takes about 55 seconds to reach the top of the lift from the bottom. The issue is that even though normal operation with dispatches once a minute would allow the lift to only hold one train at a time, it would not allow for proper blocking, as the track leading up the the lift is considered part of the lift block(If the lift stopped after the second train was dispatched but before the second train clears the lift, you end up with two trains stuck on the lift.)
With all of this it seems that with modern safety procedures we aren't able to launch the trains quickly enough to hit the loops, even though it is physically possible. And so I have two questions:
1. For ride ops: If you ever worked on the coaster how fast can the coaster dispatch safely, i.e. how fast does the system allow you to launch?
2. If the speed of the lift is too slow, could it be sped up with new equipment, and perhaps even slow the second lift to allow safer operation while hitting the loops?
Is it possible to have the coaster hit the loops at the same time today? lets look at what I know, then feel free to respond with any additional input you may have.
1. Most days LNM runs only 2 trains, leaving most chances of hitting the loop up to delays in loading followed immediately by a quick dispatch. has anyone seen the coaster running all 3 trains recently?
2. It is almost exactly one minute from loop to loop. this was probably by design. The helix and block were most likely designed to kill time for the second train to reach the first loop.
3. It takes about 1:20 for the train to reach the top of the lift from the time that the train is dispatched. This means that trains need to be launched before the first train clears the lift in order to hit the loops. However, it should be noted that it only takes about 55 seconds to reach the top of the lift from the bottom. The issue is that even though normal operation with dispatches once a minute would allow the lift to only hold one train at a time, it would not allow for proper blocking, as the track leading up the the lift is considered part of the lift block(If the lift stopped after the second train was dispatched but before the second train clears the lift, you end up with two trains stuck on the lift.)
With all of this it seems that with modern safety procedures we aren't able to launch the trains quickly enough to hit the loops, even though it is physically possible. And so I have two questions:
1. For ride ops: If you ever worked on the coaster how fast can the coaster dispatch safely, i.e. how fast does the system allow you to launch?
2. If the speed of the lift is too slow, could it be sped up with new equipment, and perhaps even slow the second lift to allow safer operation while hitting the loops?
No, it is no longer possible for the trains to interlock. A few years ago a new computerized dispatch system was installed and it will not permit the trains to be that physically close to each other. So far as I know this was done on purpose. In fact if you watch closely the park is very careful to not run old film of the trains interlocking.
If you watch her for some time, and I have because I am stupid like that you will, on occasion when she is running 3 trains see one enter the loops right after the other. Several years back, this is when they would have interlocked.
Nessie and I have discussed the issue and it does not please her. She wants that and the smoke back.
If you watch her for some time, and I have because I am stupid like that you will, on occasion when she is running 3 trains see one enter the loops right after the other. Several years back, this is when they would have interlocked.
Nessie and I have discussed the issue and it does not please her. She wants that and the smoke back.
like I said, the computer is programed to prevent the trains from coming within a certain distance of each others envelope. When they are both in the loops they violate this.
Busch Gardens likes to remove things that their guests like. This is part of their overarching marketing plan. It only makes sense that they did not put in an exception in the code.
Busch Gardens likes to remove things that their guests like. This is part of their overarching marketing plan. It only makes sense that they did not put in an exception in the code.
From what I've been told is when both trains are in the loops it puts an extreme amount of pressure on the supports and footers, since many of the footers are connected. So they stopped doing it.
No, I think Zimmy's theory of an anti-fun campaign is more likely than any safety or structural integrity reason.
Zimmy said:
Yes, the park wants to alienate and upset the people who spend their time and disposable income in the park. Yes, the more mad, the happier BGW will be..seriously??
CNN published an article today about a theory that the Loch Ness Monster is really a Wels catfish. I just had to share.
