The Loch Ness Monster
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To be fair, I like seeing and watching the second drop from the bridge. But that would also be quite cool. The big problem is, the sound from the chain would echo in the tunnel and burst everyone's eardrums. And nobody wants that.
^^ If Big Thunder can do it,we can too! Though I would update the lift motor before we put an echoing cave around it. It would be like a cave going through the helix and than once you go to the final turn of the helix there would be a pool of water in the center and bubbles with a shadow of Nessie in the pool. Than you would go onto the silent lift hill with waterfalls, shadows of Nessie, fog, and rustling sounds. (They would upgrade the interior so you could have water, fog, mist, ETC.) The turn coming out of the lift would be cave and small ponds with bubbling water, then a wall of fog would appear on the straightaway. After that a strobe light would go off with a roar and Nessie would pop out as you go down the drop. It's just my dream but it is plausible. I still have a hope for the park and would definitely help Nessie.
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The lift motor is not what makes the loud noise. Updating it would be useless. The deafening noise is the spring loaded anti-rollback catches clanking up the hill.
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Most lift noise on any coaster that has a chain is because of the anti-rollbacks. Generally, you can only hear motors as you pass them and if they are close to the track such as Griffon, Alpengeist, or Apollo as the lift motor is attached to the track. However, Nessie's are placed on the ground.
To coaster enthusiasts all around, the lift noise that a arrow looper makes is simply amazing. It's just one of the natural characteristics that arrow coasters have. The same was for BBW as far as the lift noise goes.
Rides such as Millennium Force or Intimidator 305 have a wheel that runs next to the lift which lifts the anti-rollback upwards which prevents it from slamming into the notches and when the train slows down, they drop back down and lock it the train in that position until the lift is restarted. This does two things: prevents damage to anti-rollbacks and the track as well as, decreases the noise level. The downside is that the tire could go flat and then you have the anti-rollbacks slamming against the metal.
Replacing a lift chain with LIM/LSM's would never happen. Alterations to the track, new electrical, ride programming, new trains, ect. just not that would ever happen.
To coaster enthusiasts all around, the lift noise that a arrow looper makes is simply amazing. It's just one of the natural characteristics that arrow coasters have. The same was for BBW as far as the lift noise goes.
Rides such as Millennium Force or Intimidator 305 have a wheel that runs next to the lift which lifts the anti-rollback upwards which prevents it from slamming into the notches and when the train slows down, they drop back down and lock it the train in that position until the lift is restarted. This does two things: prevents damage to anti-rollbacks and the track as well as, decreases the noise level. The downside is that the tire could go flat and then you have the anti-rollbacks slamming against the metal.
Replacing a lift chain with LIM/LSM's would never happen. Alterations to the track, new electrical, ride programming, new trains, ect. just not that would ever happen.
What I love with Arrow's coasters, especially the loopers, is that they all sound different. Nessie sounds worlds different compared to Anaconda and even GASM had a unique sound when it was operating. Their mine trains also sing to a different tune but it's much less pronounced than their loopers. From what I've experienced pretty much every Arrow coaster has its own distinct tune but coasters made within a few years of each other do sound very similar even if a coaster has one more car than another. It's something that you will not get with today's coasters, especially with newer and more efficient lift systems.
For examples of what I mean:
Corkscrew, Anaconda, and GASM all sound entirely different from each other.
Corkscrew and Python sounded similar due to their designs, very simple loop and screw layouts with the same number of cars per train. Not to mention they both were basically the same height, and had very close lift hill speeds.
Nessie sounds completely unique compared to any other Arrow I have been on. Definitely due to its location and the fact that it was a 100% custom effort from Arrow.
The Mine trains all have uniquely distinct clicks as they proceed up the lift hill, definitely in relation to their lift speeds.
For examples of what I mean:
Corkscrew, Anaconda, and GASM all sound entirely different from each other.
Corkscrew and Python sounded similar due to their designs, very simple loop and screw layouts with the same number of cars per train. Not to mention they both were basically the same height, and had very close lift hill speeds.
Nessie sounds completely unique compared to any other Arrow I have been on. Definitely due to its location and the fact that it was a 100% custom effort from Arrow.
The Mine trains all have uniquely distinct clicks as they proceed up the lift hill, definitely in relation to their lift speeds.
Ever wonder what it would be like if Nessie vacationed at her ugly stepsister's place?
Why not, she already visited Downtown Disney
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I call that a homemade overhead view of a catfish. No seriously, that is either a shark or a catfish. Either way definitely an interesting thing to look up.Kitty said:
I can't make fun of the 'Official Loch Ness Monster Fan Club' because as soon as I read that I thought-
"For six months the James City County permit has been studied by experts at the BGWFans Page, where excitement is mounting after various explanations for it were ruled out... leaving them to conclude it is ‘likely’ to be the elusive roller coaster."
"For six months the James City County permit has been studied by experts at the BGWFans Page, where excitement is mounting after various explanations for it were ruled out... leaving them to conclude it is ‘likely’ to be the elusive roller coaster."
So we conducted an experiment today during the Roller Coaster Tour. We were able to ride each coaster twice without waiting in any lines. So, we rode each one in the front and the back consecutively. For the three people in my group, the differences between the two seats were the most pronounced on LNM.
Full disclosure: I always ride in the last car, so I have a bias.
The front car seemed incredibly slow in comparison, throughout the entire ride. After riding in the back, the ride in the front seat felt like an older coaster, if that makes any sense. Of course all of the drops were shorter and slower. But on the shorter drops, the train seemed to crawl down the hill. We also noticed that our heads were getting whipped around more in the front.
One advantage to the front seat may be the loops: we could feel them more.
Anyway, just my subjective experiences. I will certainly never ride in the front of Nessie again.
Full disclosure: I always ride in the last car, so I have a bias.
The front car seemed incredibly slow in comparison, throughout the entire ride. After riding in the back, the ride in the front seat felt like an older coaster, if that makes any sense. Of course all of the drops were shorter and slower. But on the shorter drops, the train seemed to crawl down the hill. We also noticed that our heads were getting whipped around more in the front.
One advantage to the front seat may be the loops: we could feel them more.
Anyway, just my subjective experiences. I will certainly never ride in the front of Nessie again.
Continuing the 'minor changes' discussion....I agree and disagree with you Matthew. I agree that the footprint of Nessie is useless for another ride. But, Rebuilding Nessie with a B&M design would work. It would not only satisfy the people that dont want it to go, but also the people who want something fresh. Minor changes could be an improvement. A cobra roll over LOTD instead of the low speed turn. A high speed 90 degree helix in the tunnel would eliminate the need for the 2nd lift, leaving some room for a couple extra twists and turns. The the final interlocked loop. BaM! 40 more years of Nessie