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Disabling the brake run before the cave would be a very bad idea. The MCBR is there for a reason. By not keeping the speed in check, the g-forces would get too high during that double helix in the cave.

Ultimately, that second lift is necessary as the train wouldn't quite make it over that hill. Yes, it slows the ride down, but without it, there wouldn't be interlocking loops. Plus, a lot of times you can see some deer in that pasture while taking a breather on the lift.
 
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I'm not entirely sure if the train can make it up the hill or not, but it is also used as a block for when the trains stack in the station.

While I'm certain that if the train came to a complete stop on the brake run before the cave, however that isn't used anymore so it wouldn't really matter.
 
It seems to me that the train wouldn't make it over the hill, at least consistently. Even still, like you said, it is a part of the block system.

I'm pretty sure the MCBR is one of the blocks as well. Regardless, it definitely functions as a trim brake to reduce the speed to a manageable level before entering the helix.
 
Maybe disabling the MCBR is a bad idea but how about if the 2nd chain lift. Was changed to tire driven. They could spin up before it hits the lift so Nessie wouldn't lose much speed, as she would be propelled up the hill. What about that idea?
 
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We could always just leave her alone to do her thing.

Here's the problem: Any changes you make to a legendary ride like Loch Ness will always be viewed as downgrades. Always. The general public and the enthusiasts alike would both complain to no end about how Busch Gardens ruined their first looping coaster. The nostalgia factor alone would cause that. It's a lose-lose situation for the park. There aren't any problems as things stand. No reason to mess with success.
 
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So, on Saturday, a disabled man came through the exit to ride the ride. They got him in, but it took 5 minutes. (I'm not complaining, keep reading). So, after the car came back into the station after his ride, they let him go again. (Again, not complaining. I'll get to the point soon.) So, we went on the next car. We went out of the station, up the lift, down the hill, you get the gist. So, we came out of the cave, went onto the lift and stopped! We all looked around, a little scared. Then I remembered the disabled man, he was getting out of the car. So we got to have a nice, relaxing sit on Nessie's second hill, but of course it had to be one of the only times that there were no deer! I just thought I'd share, and props to the guy for not letting a disability get in the way of riding NESSIE!! :D
 
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StormKing said:
Maybe disabling the MCBR is a bad idea but how about if the 2nd chain lift. Was changed to tire driven. They could spin up before it hits the lift so Nessie wouldn't lose much speed, as she would be propelled up the hill. What about that idea?
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That would be very hard considering Arrow's have never used a wheel system before, and I'm pretty sure wheel systems can't act as blocks, so no that is probably not possible.
 
Wheel Systems can act as a block. You will have to reprogram the ride as is, but wheels can stop the train, therefore can act as a block. The wheels will just need to grab the train enough so it doesn't slide through the tires.

Look at Grovers or Shamu Express or Freedom Flyer at Fun Spot Orlando for examples.
 
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Now that you mention it, there was a disabled man on Nessie when I rode her last weekend, I sat in the last car (as always) ,he sat near the front. could just be a coincidence but I'm just pitting that out there.
Well I guess the wheel lift idea is a flop. The only change I would like to see happen is the removal of the trim brakes on the second drop. Or would that just cause the first loop to become unbearable?

But then again as Zachary points out, why mess with a good thing. I can only manage one time on Alpie per visit or I will get light headed, V-bolt's first helix ALWAYS causes grey-out and a headache. Nessie is just right. Good point.
 
Evan said:
Wheel Systems can act as a block. You will have to reprogram the ride as is, but wheels can stop the train, therefore can act as a block. The wheels will just need to grab the train enough so it doesn't slide through the tires.

Look at Grovers or Shamu Express or Freedom Flyer at Fun Spot Orlando for examples.
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I think you should refer to this as a "Tire Driven" or "Tire Based Brakes," as "Wheel System" implies that the trains wheels are acting as breaks like on a car which is not the case.
 
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StormKing said:
Well I guess the wheel lift idea is a flop. The only change I would like to see happen is the removal of the trim brakes on the second drop. Or would that just cause the first loop to become unbearable?
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Most likely it will, but I don't mind the Block brakes anyway. It makes you feel like you are hanging, and depending what row your in, sometimes it makes you feel like you're going to fall out of your seat which just adds to the thrill!
 
StormKing said:
Now that you mention it, there was a disabled man on Nessie when I rode her last weekend, I sat in the last car (as always) ,he sat near the front. could just be a coincidence but I'm just pitting that out there.
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No, he was sitting in the back car. It took his Dad, and Grandfather to get him in, but when the car pulled back into the station after his first ride, he had the BIGGEST smile on his face!! It was so nice!! :D
 
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