News Six Flags Great Adventure Project 2027 (?): Delayed “Record Breaking Coaster"

[RDL]

Just out of curiosity, it's not that I don't believe you, but what are your sources where you get this information from? I'm curious because I'd like to be in on this stuff too @RDL

It’s common knowledge amongst enthusiasts at this point, But here’s a link to an article that summarizes the whole thing

 

[MaxxForceFan]

Just out of curiosity, it's not that I don't believe you, but what are your sources where you get this information from? I'm curious because I'd like to be in on this stuff too @RDL

Some of the track for Chang was shipped to the park and they received approval from the Village of Gurnee zoning board. The park was scheduled to appear at a village board meeting for final approval and backed out at the last minute.

 

[GAcoaster]

Somewhere I think we have the concept art for Chang's relocation to SFGAm before it chnaged to Great Adventure at literally the last minute. It was kind of a Harley Davidson (knockoff) theme. The idea they were going to have two standups in the same park was insane...

 

[harry580]

Somewhere I think we have the concept art for Chang's relocation to SFGAm before it chnaged to Great Adventure at literally the last minute. It was kind of a Harley Davidson (knockoff) theme. The idea they were going to have two standups in the same park was insane...

the latter was possibly the reason why six flags decided to move chang to great adventure instead of great america

and also, when you brought up the Harley Davidson idea, I thought they going to retheme it after Harley Davidson but instead its gonna be a knock off brand which turned my interest into dissapointment

 

[YachtyLogs]

Somewhere I think we have the concept art for Chang's relocation to SFGAm before it chnaged to Great Adventure at literally the last minute. It was kind of a Harley Davidson (knockoff) theme. The idea they were going to have two standups in the same park was insane...

Don't want to go too off topic of the new coaster at great adventure, but do we know where the coaster was going to be at Great America? The article said "near the parking lot" but that could be anywhere tbh. X-Flight was built the next season tho and that wasn't anywhere near the parking lot so I'm curious if you have any info about that.

 

[SweetBabyJames]

Somewhere I think we have the concept art for Chang's relocation to SFGAm before it chnaged to Great Adventure at literally the last minute. It was kind of a Harley Davidson (knockoff) theme. The idea they were going to have two standups in the same park was insane...

Maybe they would have removed Iron wolf sooner... it would have overlapped by only a few months if not, as Iron wolf was gone by the end of 2011. Plus, in an arguably better change of events, Great America got X-Flight the next year, which may not have happened had they gotten Chang.

Anyway, thanks for the info y'all! We better get back on the topic of the new launch coaster coming to Great Adventure before an admin finds out we are off topic .

 

[harry580]

the concept art for chang at Six Flags Great America

hello, im making this thread to tell gacoaster about posting the concept art of chang at Six Flags Great America, I love to see what would have been

parkfans.net

for discussion about chang at six flags great america and the potential concept art, go to the link above

 

[GASM]

I agree, but at the same time, it's pretty damn ballsy (read: stupid) to proceed with work on a coaster you don't actually yet have approval to build.

Nah, it worked out great for SFDK with Vertical Velocity—oh wait.

 

[Tacky3663]

I agree, but at the same time, it's pretty damn ballsy (read: stupid) to proceed with work on a coaster you don't actually yet have approval to build. I've never seen construction begin before an FAA waiver. FAA waivers, in my experience, when required, are normally one of the first things that happen due to how long they can take. The fact that they haven't even filed one yet is wild to me if this project does actually need one.

Maybe this might not be as tall as people think it’ll be

 

[harry580]

Maybe this might not be as tall as people think it’ll be

so, its in the same size of kingda ka?

 

[RDL]

Maybe this might not be as tall as people think it’ll be

I can’t see a reality where they add a Mack shuttle spinner that’s less than 200ft unless it’s a direct response to both tariffs + desperation to get something open for 2026. Maybe that’s where the Ragin Cajun rumors are coming from as well, adding an additional coaster to make up for the lack of height on the main addition.

Either way, a shuttle that’s less than 200ft (only like 20-30ft higher than Flash) plus a bad ride that’s been relocated once already would anger pretty much everyone. I really hope that’s not what they end up doing.

 

[harry580]

well, the construction is on not only kingda ka side but also half of golden kingdom and half of green lantern site so it would be a full circuit mack spinner

 

[Zachary]

You cannot know whether or not a coaster layout is full-circuit based on the total construction area.

 

[fingerblaster22]

They’re claiming that Great Adventure bought a coaster that likely cost over $30 million in 2022 and just didn’t build it? Also that’s Selim era Six Flags so I just don’t believe they would’ve been willing to buy something like that then.

Paying for versus signing a contract for a 30 million dollar coaster are two different things lol. A lot like building or buying a home, theres the downpayment and then the final payment when the goods are delivered.

 

[RDL]

You cannot know wherever or not a coaster layout is full-circuit based on the total construction area.

Not a difference between full circuit and shuttle, but Joker is a great example of why not to put too much stock into the construction area. That ride took up half of its total construction area at most, and I remember being super hyped about what could be going in that area and was left super disappointed

 

[mattkopp23]

I’m curious about another option: Drachen Spire. When we were discussing ideas for what the 2024 (now 2025) new roller coaster was going to be, some of us mentioned this formerly planned 2023 roller coaster for Busch Gardens Williamsburg.

This coaster makes even more sense in this scenario:

1. Timeline: The park supposedly made the decision to close Kingda Ka and build a new coaster relatively recently with a quick turnaround. When you have an already designed roller coaster layout, that timeline can be condensed into a quicker project.
2. Construction Plot: The park has cleared enough rides that the construction area is a flat “L” shape of land. If you look at the proposed layout for Drachen Spire (attached), this could possibly fit in the cleared land. I did not have a chance to see how the Drachen Spire layout correctly scaled would fit in this plot.
3. Replacement In-Kind: Replacing Kingda Ka with another very tall Intamin “gimmick” roller coaster would completely fill the void of losing Kingda Ka (at least for the general public). Obviously coaster enthusiasts would love a full circuit layout.
4. Intamin: With Intamin having contracted work at the park already for the El Toro track replacement, I wonder if they spoke with Six Flags about a Kingda Ka replacement as a package deal.

Just some thoughts on another possibility for the new coaster. Curious what you all think. Now I’m also interested to see if people would prefer the Mack Tower Coaster or Intamin Drachen Spire (if you could only choose 1 or the other). The only question would be to determine the world record(s) that this ride was said to be breaking.

Thanks to BGWFans for the article on this planned but never built ride:

Drachen Spire's Slumber – BGWFans

 

[harry580]

I’m curious about another option: Drachen Spire. When we were discussing ideas for what the 2024 (now 2025) new roller coaster was going to be, some of us mentioned this formerly planned 2023 roller coaster for Busch Gardens Williamsburg.

This coaster makes even more sense in this scenario:

1. Timeline: The park supposedly made the decision to close Kingda Ka and build a new coaster relatively recently with a quick turnaround. When you have an already designed roller coaster layout, that timeline can be condensed into a quicker project.
2. Construction Plot: The park has cleared enough rides that the construction area is a flat “L” shape of land. If you look at the proposed layout for Drachen Spire (attached), this could possibly fit in the cleared land. I did not have a chance to see how the Drachen Spire layout correctly scaled would fit in this plot.
3. Replacement In-Kind: Replacing Kingda Ka with another very tall Intamin “gimmick” roller coaster would completely fill the void of losing Kingda Ka (at least for the general public). Obviously coaster enthusiasts would love a full circuit layout.
4. Intamin: With Intamin having contracted work at the park already for the El Toro track replacement, I wonder if they spoke with Six Flags about a Kingda Ka replacement as a package deal.

Just some thoughts on another possibility for the new coaster. Curious what you all think. Now I’m also interested to see if people would prefer the Mack Tower Coaster or Intamin Drachen Spire (if you could only choose 1 or the other). The only question would be to determine the world record(s) that this ride was said to be breaking.

Thanks to BGWFans for the article on this planned but never built ride:

Drachen Spire's Slumber – BGWFans

but the problem with that is that is the same as the mack rides spinner

 

[fingerblaster22]

I’m curious about another option: Drachen Spire. When we were discussing ideas for what the 2024 (now 2025) new roller coaster was going to be, some of us mentioned this formerly planned 2023 roller coaster for Busch Gardens Williamsburg.

This coaster makes even more sense in this scenario:

1. Timeline: The park supposedly made the decision to close Kingda Ka and build a new coaster relatively recently with a quick turnaround. When you have an already designed roller coaster layout, that timeline can be condensed into a quicker project.
2. Construction Plot: The park has cleared enough rides that the construction area is a flat “L” shape of land. If you look at the proposed layout for Drachen Spire (attached), this could possibly fit in the cleared land. I did not have a chance to see how the Drachen Spire layout correctly scaled would fit in this plot.
3. Replacement In-Kind: Replacing Kingda Ka with another very tall Intamin “gimmick” roller coaster would completely fill the void of losing Kingda Ka (at least for the general public). Obviously coaster enthusiasts would love a full circuit layout.
4. Intamin: With Intamin having contracted work at the park already for the El Toro track replacement, I wonder if they spoke with Six Flags about a Kingda Ka replacement as a package deal.

Just some thoughts on another possibility for the new coaster. Curious what you all think. Now I’m also interested to see if people would prefer the Mack Tower Coaster or Intamin Drachen Spire (if you could only choose 1 or the other). The only question would be to determine the world record(s) that this ride was said to be breaking.

Thanks to BGWFans for the article on this planned but never built ride:

Drachen Spire's Slumber – BGWFans

I saw the animation video of it, rather boring coaster. So... They both suck lets put it like that. If it was 300ft and full circuit with other elements it would fly.

 

[Nitro230]

I’m curious about another option: Drachen Spire. When we were discussing ideas for what the 2024 (now 2025) new roller coaster was going to be, some of us mentioned this formerly planned 2023 roller coaster for Busch Gardens Williamsburg.

This coaster makes even more sense in this scenario:

1. Timeline: The park supposedly made the decision to close Kingda Ka and build a new coaster relatively recently with a quick turnaround. When you have an already designed roller coaster layout, that timeline can be condensed into a quicker project.
2. Construction Plot: The park has cleared enough rides that the construction area is a flat “L” shape of land. If you look at the proposed layout for Drachen Spire (attached), this could possibly fit in the cleared land. I did not have a chance to see how the Drachen Spire layout correctly scaled would fit in this plot.
3. Replacement In-Kind: Replacing Kingda Ka with another very tall Intamin “gimmick” roller coaster would completely fill the void of losing Kingda Ka (at least for the general public). Obviously coaster enthusiasts would love a full circuit layout.
4. Intamin: With Intamin having contracted work at the park already for the El Toro track replacement, I wonder if they spoke with Six Flags about a Kingda Ka replacement as a package deal.

Just some thoughts on another possibility for the new coaster. Curious what you all think. Now I’m also interested to see if people would prefer the Mack Tower Coaster or Intamin Drachen Spire (if you could only choose 1 or the other). The only question would be to determine the world record(s) that this ride was said to be breaking.

Thanks to BGWFans for the article on this planned but never built ride:

Drachen Spire's Slumber – BGWFans

To be 100% honest, I would rather have the tower spinner than a drachen spire type ride

 

[RDL]

Drachen Spire is probably ruled out just as much as the Mack spinner is right now assuming the FAA claims actually mean something.

The more I’ve thought about it, the harder it is to shake away the FAA argument. Zachary is right, something should’ve been filed already, and that goes for anything above 200ft, not just 300ft or 400ft.

For those that really don’t want the spinner, consider this the last thing for you to cling onto I suppose