Top Thrill 2 debuted in 2024, but was closed for much of the year, which means it was effectively new to most 2025 guests.
Siren’s Curse was originally intended for Six Flags Mexico City, but was relocated to Sandusky late last year due to permitting issues in Mexico.
McClure pointed to the addition of Siren’s Curse as one of the big benefits for Cedar Point of the merger between Cedar Fair and Six Flags. “It would have been four years before we had another roller coaster,” said McClure.
Fixed your quote to reflect the only thing that can be definitively inferred from Mr. McClure's statement.It sounds like the next new coaster for Cedar Point was planned for 2028.
For anyone else who struggled to understand what any of this means, here’s a good video that breaks it all down in simpler terms. Sounds like the chain will be even worse off with paying for new attractions and experiences in the near future. Yet another big yikes from Six Flags.Six Flags is attempting to refinance the Company’s 5.375% Senior Notes due April 15, 2027 and 5.500% Senior Notes due April 15, 2027 (collectively, the “2027 Notes”) and to pay accrued and unpaid interest on the 2027 Notes, if any, to, but not including, the redemption date, and to pay fees and expenses in connection with the Offering and the Redemptions.
"Six Flags Entertainment Corp. is selling $1 billion of junk dollar bonds as the US park operator seeks to refinance debt maturing next year.
Initial pricing on the six-year notes are pointing to a interest rate close to 9%, according to a person with direct knowledge of the matter. JPMorgan Chase & Co. and PNC Financial Services Group Inc. are leading the deal, which is expected to close Thursday, the person added."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...1-billion-in-junk-debt?embedded-checkout=true
https://investors.sixflags.com/news...es-and-Redemptions-of-2027-Notes/default.aspx
Step 1: have balance of notes payable in fullHow can we get SF out of debt?
Chapter 11 would allow another company (e.g. UP) to come in an propose a reorganization to the court. UP or another major company would make the case that regional parks can't financially survive on their own and need to consolidate further. This would not be a customer friendly result if it occurred.They’ll declare Chapter 11, restructure, sell all smaller parks maybe one bigger one, and come out as a leaner product with all the best parks.
If they were to sell a big park I have no choice but to think that KD might fit that narrative sadly.They’ll declare Chapter 11, restructure, sell all smaller parks maybe one bigger one, and come out as a leaner product with all the best parks.
I'm curious to hear your rationale here, aside from the fact that it is the park you are most familiar with.If they were to sell a big park I have no choice but to think that KD might fit that narrative sadly.
I frankly don’t know what counts as a big park, but including Rapterra, KD has been borderline neglected with only 3 coasters opening in the last 10 years. I guess they’ve invested a lot in jungle x, and retheming Pantherian, but outside of that. I can’t help but wonder if kd is on the possible sell off listI'm curious to hear your rationale here, aside from the fact that it is the park you are most familiar with.
I think this is a common misconception. KD and Carowinds are actually pretty equal if you compare their investments from 2008 until now, and who knows what investment Carowinds would have gotten without the tax incentives.I frankly don’t know what counts as a big park, but including Rapterra, KD has been borderline neglected with only 3 coasters opening in the last 10 years. I guess they’ve invested a lot in jungle x, and retheming Pantherian, but outside of that. I can’t help but wonder if kd is on the possible sell off list
Not to mention, KD was the testing ground for a lot of the new culinary offerings that are much higher quality than the prior offerings, that have since made their way chainwide. They were also the first park in the chain to start leaning into the thematic immersion and that has also started to spread to other legacy Cedar Fair parks (and hopefully SF). And it seems they’re trying to get some more entertainment offerings as well—Let’s Get Wild being a great example of that. So I’d argue that KD has been doing better than other parks in a lot of regards, some of it just isn’t as obvious like rides are.I think this is a common misconception. KD and Carowinds are actually pretty equal if you compare their investments from 2008 until now, and who knows what investment Carowinds would have gotten without the tax incentives.
Carowinds:
2009: Flying Cobras (relocation)
2010: Intimidator
2012: Windseeker
2015: Fury 325
2019: Copperhead Strike
2025: Snoopy's Racing Railway
Kings Dominion:
2008: Dominator (relocation)
2010: Intimidator 305
2012: Windseeker
2018: Twisted Timbers
2022: Tumbili
2025: Rapterra
It's been 7 years since a major thrill coaster at Carowinds. KD went 8 years between i305 and Twisted Timbers, but has gotten much more investment than Carowinds in the 2020s IMO.
I think this is a common misconception. KD and Carowinds are actually pretty equal if you compare their investments from 2008 until now, and who knows what investment Carowinds would have gotten without the tax incentives.
Carowinds:
2009: Flying Cobras (relocation)
2010: Intimidator
2012: Windseeker
2015: Fury 325
2019: Copperhead Strike
2025: Snoopy's Racing Railway
Kings Dominion:
2008: Dominator (relocation)
2010: Intimidator 305
2012: Windseeker
2018: Twisted Timbers
2022: Tumbili
2025: Rapterra
It's been 7 years since a major thrill coaster at Carowinds. KD went 8 years between i305 and Twisted Timbers, but has gotten much more investment than Carowinds in the 2020s IMO.
Yes, KD very much became an experimental park when it came to entertainment from about 2019 (with Grand Carnivale) to Let’s Get Wild in 2022 being the last big experiment before major budget cuts would plague the department. COVID definitely ruined any momentum; I do feel that if the pandemic hadn’t happened, the park would have a lot more going on right now.Not to mention, KD was the testing ground for a lot of the new culinary offerings that are much higher quality than the prior offerings, that have since made their way chainwide. They were also the first park in the chain to start leaning into the thematic immersion and that has also started to spread to other legacy Cedar Fair parks (and hopefully SF). And it seems they’re trying to get some more entertainment offerings as well—Let’s Get Wild being a great example of that. So I’d argue that KD has been doing better than other parks in a lot of regards, some of it just isn’t as obvious like rides are.
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In hindsight, that decision did not optimize profits at every park the way we needed it to. Those events can be meaningful demand drivers, and removing them created a self-inflicted headwind in terms of both attendance and operating leverage. We’re taking that learning directly into our planning for 2026, and we will rethink the winter holiday strategy with a tighter, returns-driven approach, market by market, rather than applying a broad brush.
In terms of the line between the guest experience and cost savings, I think the thin line you mentioned, I’d say it’s a red line. And that’s what I’ve learned in doing this cost work in other chains. You have to protect the guest experience. It has to be a guardrail. Every initiative has to be weighed and measured, and you have to be willing to reverse if you do something that ends up with an unintended consequence.
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