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Follow up, could this park be getting put up for sale?
 
I'm sorry, could someone please explain that to me? Not sure I'm understanding what that's saying. Are they saying that those parks lost a lot of money? Are they closing them?
If I understand correctly, yes, SF is saying those parks are losing money, and they don't see that changing any time soon.

Worth noting that SF does not own those parks, just leases the operating license for them. They cannot be sold/closed on SF's whims, though the license can change hands or be cancelled.
 
From the annual report:

"During the year ended December 31, 2023, we determined that the carrying value of our leased theme park in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Frontier City ("Frontier City") and our leased water park in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, Hurricane Harbor Oklahoma City ("HHOKC") were not recoverable following multiple years of negative cash flows, as well as projected future cash flows that indicated the respective assets were not recoverable. Based on the analysis performed, we determined that the carrying value of Frontier City and HHOKC exceeded their fair value, resulting in a pre-tax, non-cash loss on impairment of $16.0 million and $7.0 million, respectively. The loss on impairment at Frontier City was allocated proportionally, in the amount of $8.8 million and $7.1 million, to Right-of-use operating leases, net and Property and equipment, net, respectively. The loss on impairment at HHOKC was allocated proportionally, in the amount of $4.3 million and $2.7 million, to Right-of-use operating leases, net and Property and equipment, net, respectively.

During the year ended January 1, 2023, we determined that our leased theme park in Houston, Texas, Hurricane Harbor Splashtown ("Splashtown") was not recoverable following multiple years of negative cash flows, as well as projected future cash flows that indicated the respective assets were not recoverable. Based on the analysis, we determined that the carrying value of Frontier City[sic] exceeded its fair value, resulting in a pre-tax, non-cash loss on impairment of $16.9 million. The loss on impairment was allocated proportionally, in the amount of $15.1 million and $1.8 million, to Right-of-use operating leases, net and Property and equipment, net, respectively."

https://otp.tools.investis.com/clie...&FilingId=17326504&CIK=0000701374&Index=10000


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I am guessing these are pre-merger stats, but the Mayor of Gurnee made the following comments about Six Flags Great America during the State of the Village address last night.

"In Six Flags around the country they are number one in average attendance. Now they are careful to say that they are not number one in total attendance because they are not open year round, but for the days in which they are open they have the highest attendance.

They also have the best record in terms of profitability in the entire Six Flags chain."

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I am guessing these are pre-merger stats, but the Mayor of Gurnee made the following comments about Six Flags Great America during the State of the Village address last night.

"In Six Flags around the country they are number one in average attendance. Now they are careful to say that they are not number one in total attendance because they are not open year round, but for the days in which they are open they have the highest attendance.

They also have the best record in terms of profitability in the entire Six Flags chain."

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Those are deffiently premerger stats.
 
Huge loss for the year and EBITDA is terrible. That's why everything is getting stripped down and parks are potentially for sale.
 
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There is not much possibility of revenue growth. Stripping down the parks will not grow revenue. Only short term cost savings.

This company only installs attractions for the same limited market and their assets sit vacant half the year.
 
Raising season pass prices more in line with competitors would raise revenue and decrease some costs in attrition. Other revenue raising is going to be challenging without a lot of investment.

I seriously think they need to consider dumping or closing parks that need massive investment to even get to moderate financial performance - SFA, GAdv, Dorney, maybe even MM. Keep the high potential parks that need only moderate investment to drive better performance.
 
I think it's important to remember that it takes huge spending on both companies premerger to work through the regulatory process to complete a merger we don't know how much of the reported loss came from one time spending related to that. Before we start screaming the sky is falling maybe give them a year as a mergered company and see where the results are.
 
I think it's important to remember that it takes huge spending on both companies premerger to work through the regulatory process to complete a merger we don't know how much of the reported loss came from one time spending related to that. Before we start screaming the sky is falling maybe give them a year as a mergered company and see where the results are.
The big issue looks to be the combined company debt. It's eating up their income and could be indicative of a potential debt spiral.
 
The big issue looks to be the combined company debt. It's eating up their income and could be indicative of a potential debt spiral.
I don’t think you understand how corporate debt works.
 
I don’t think you understand how corporate debt works.
Interest payments are eating through their operating income and it got much worse post merger. That's not sustainable long term and they can't simply reissue their debt at better rates. Either revenue needs to increase greatly, which it's hard to see that happening, or they have to cut costs and sell off assets.
 
Should be an interesting earnings call.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/h...Aug.-6-2025-Earnings-Call-Starts-at-10-AM-EDT

CHARLOTTE, N.C.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Six Flags Entertainment Corporation (NYSE: FUN), the largest regional amusement park operator in North America, said today it will issue 2025 second-quarter results in the pre-market hours of Wednesday Aug. 6, 2025.

Starting at 10 a.m. EDT that day, Six Flags management will host a conference call with the investment community to provide additional details regarding second-quarter results and discuss the Company’s business outlook. Management participants on the call will include Six Flags CEO Richard Zimmerman and CFO Brian Witherow.

Investors and all other interested parties can access a live, listen-only audio webcast of the call on the Six Flags investor website https://investors.sixflags.comunder the tabs Investor Information / Events & Presentations. Those unable to listen to the live webcast can visit our investor website shortly after the call’s conclusion to access a recorded version of the call.
 
I wonder what's in the financial call?, what going to happen with great adventure?
A lot of dull figures and stuff but it should give a nice snapshot of the company's current state and plans to address issues without being to specific. If they address Great Adventure at all it's almost certainly going to be a vague statement like do to several factors were have decided our previously planned 2026 attraction back to a later date.
maybe six flags changed their minds about six flags america and they gonna sell it
Nope they are still stet to begin accepting closed bids on the property starting August 1st. Do to all sorts of confidentiality agreements i don't expect that we will hear any more news or leaks on that front till after the park closes and more then likely not until we'll into 2026.
 
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