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I don't think we will see the Skyride. I am hearing that one of the current coasters will close for the addition of Verbolten but I'm not sure which one it will be. My guess would be that it would be Loch Ness but all I have really heard is that one for sure won't be open so that they can move that team over.

There’s so much to unpack in this information (I agree that Loch Ness is the first coaster I would cut from the current lineup) but I suppose there’s no real point in reacting too strongly until we know more. My read on everything is that for me personally, a September event shouldn‘t just feel like a slight re-skin of the current one, and thus maximizing the amount of changeover (even if they aren’t able to outright flip the park and open Italy, for whatever reason) should be the priority If they want to encourage repeat visits from members once we leave the summer season. But the lack of a full flip puts them in a tight spot, because the only real ”fair trade” for Griffon in terms of broad appeal is Apollo’s, and Alpengeist is sort of on an island in terms of its intensity, so trading it out for Griffon or Invadr seems odd. And Finnegan’s Flyer is technically their newest attraction, so they seem unlikely (or unwilling) to move that crew to a coaster.

I guess what I’m saying is that as someone who doesn’t really care about the food and drink accoutrements that they’re using to brand these events (I’ll get some beignets but that’s it, really), I don’t think swapping out a single coaster is going to get more than a single visit out of me. (Admins, I expect you’ll move this into the Rumors thread, and I would’ve put it there but wanted to make sure the reply was seen, hope that’s alright).
 
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I’m still hearing we’re about to get Alpie. I haven’t heard about Verbolten yet, but I also wouldn’t be too surprised to see it happen—especially if we’re losing one of the Coasters & Craft Brews coasters. The question I have now though is whether we’re going to lose a second coaster as well since we may be gaining Alpie and Vbolt.

I could see Lil Clyde’s, Nessie, and Griffon all being cut to get Alpengeist, Verbolten, and one or two Oktoberfest flats running. Those, paired with InvadR, Le Scoot, Le Catapult, and Finnegan’s Flyer, would feel like a reasonably different event lineup in my mind.
 
Still a pretty disappointing line up for kids and families with smaller children. I was realt hoping for Italy and dreaming of EfP.
 
Honestly from what I'm hearing about the next event I don't think that there should be a huge concern that they aren't sufficiently differentiating. In fact I think that most people will prefer September over Coasters and Craft Brews. I would expect them to announce it anytime. From what I'm hearing it'll start on September 2nd.
 
Still a pretty disappointing line up for kids and families with smaller children. I was realt hoping for Italy and dreaming of EfP.
Honestly it might not be opening for a while. It most likely a combination of the fact that Apollo isn't ready yet to be open and that they don't want people to think they might get to ride Pantheon. At the very least I don't think we will see Italy until the park is able to increase their capacity restrictions to 5000 or Apollo is actually really to be run. Whichever comes first.
 
I don't think this has come up:

The face they didn't do more with the "brews" part in August was disappointing, hopefully they do more with a "food" part for September. I mean what a missed opportunity to use the food booths, rent them out to local breweries, and let them sell from there. They could be doing the same thing with a food option there. Then it gives more for a family.

Although I think this might be controversial: I think not opening up FoF/LoD is smart and safe from BGW's standpoint, not because there's a lot of hard to monitor spots. Rather I think they are hoping to keep a few families from coming to prevent an overload of very young kids.
 
Although I think this might be controversial: I think not opening up FoF/LoD is smart and safe from BGW's standpoint, not because there's a lot of hard to monitor spots. Rather I think they are hoping to keep a few families from coming to prevent an overload of very young kids.

Yeah, it’s a fine line. On the one hand, families are a huge audience for them, and they obviously do want them to visit the park since their parents often buy them souvenirs and snacks. But on the other hand, they don’t have their own buying power, and wouldn’t be buying alcohol, and if there are TOO many kids it might turn off childless adults.

It’s why I feel the Halloween event (whatever form it might take) feels like they need to run something kid friendly in the 11-3 slot to serve that audience, something they have not yet chosen to do in terms of switching available rides and attractions based on timeslots.


could see Lil Clyde’s, Nessie, and Griffon all being cut to get Alpengeist, Verbolten, and one or two Oktoberfest flats running. Those, paired with InvadR, Le Scoot, Le Catapult, and Finnegan’s Flyer, would feel like a reasonably different event lineup in my mind.

I definitely want to swap out Le Catapult, but it has the benefit of doubling as a thrill ride and a toddler-friendly ride, something they might want to hold onto. But yeah, I think it could work, it just depends on their staffing levels during an event with a bit more variables in terms of imagined attendance.
 
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Yeah, it’s a fine line. On the one hand, families are a huge audience for them, and they obviously do want them to visit the park since their parents often buy them souvenirs and snacks. But on the other hand, they don’t have their own buying power, and wouldn’t be buying alcohol, and if there are TOO many kids it might turn off childless adults.

It’s why I feel the Halloween event (whatever form it might take) feels like they need to run something kid friendly in the 11-3 slot to serve that audience, something they have not yet chosen to do in terms of switching available rides and attractions based on timeslots.

I initially deleted it, but I'll bring it up: Kids can transmit the virus to adults, and in many cases in schools its kids transmitting to teachers. To be kinda blunt about it, kids aren't as careful about hygiene as adults are (well most, some are chasing to not to right now). Possibly BGW is doing the lack of toddler/young child friendly rides and activities to ease their need on frequency of cleaning.

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I do want to add, I’m not trying to add this to be incenderairy, call all kids dirty, or question anyone’s parenting. But if I were a BGW executive looking at this situation I would question where the most likely breakdowns of keeping everything clean would be. And not opening many kids rides, therefore limiting the surfaces they can touch, would be one way.

That being said it would be nice if they could do something. And IMO that something could be the train or skyride.
 
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They could add the Wirbelwind instead of Le Catapult if they open up that section of the part anyways. Its also a 1 operator ride (i think) and has a higher capacity.

My kids would love that.
 
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So my take away from this is that their phased reopening is a counter clockwise circle around the park. Staring with Coasters and Craft Brews. Then to Log Flume, then to Alpie, and then the September is supposed to have Germany and Bolty.
 
They could add the Wirbelwind instead of Le Catapult if they open up that section of the part anyways. Its also a 1 operator ride (i think) and has a higher capacity.

My kids would love that.

I have distancing questions about the Wirbelwind, but yes, it would be the easy trade off.

I initially deleted it, but I'll bring it up: Kids can transmit the virus to adults, and in many cases in schools its kids transmitting to teachers. To be kinda blunt about it, kids aren't as careful about hygiene as adults are (well most, some are choosing to not to right now). Possibly BGW is doing the lack of toddler/young child friendly rides and activities to ease their need on frequency of cleaning.

I do think that young kids are a bit of a liability for the park right now: saw a lot of kids with poor mask use last night, and while I saw nothing egregious or reckless they were more likely to be running around, yelling, etc. Hard not to feel like a larger number would create an extra bit of chaos.
 
i would guess nessie or finnegans would be closed to accommodate for verbolten, good financial play, verbolten is a crowd pleaser
 
I have distancing questions about the Wirbelwind, but yes, it would be the easy trade off.



I do think that young kids are a bit of a liability for the park right now: saw a lot of kids with poor mask use last night, and while I saw nothing egregious or reckless they were more likely to be running around, yelling, etc. Hard not to feel like a larger number would create an extra bit of chaos.

Yea I added a touch to my post you quoted but that’s what I’m thinking. And rather than BGW straight out saying no kids, not having many rides for them open would end up discouraging young kids from coming.

Of course the worse to me even in healthy times is tweens and teens. Old enough that parents let them be alone. Don’t care enough to worry about other people’s health and safety. Young enough that some people turn away when they do something gross.
 
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i wouldn’t put money on festa being open any time soon, with the pantheon debacle and apollo’s new ride systems that leaves roman rapids and tempesto in that section of festa, but also could add the flats parallel to festa bridge and a good dining option in marco polos marketplace
 
i wouldn’t put money on festa being open any time soon, with the pantheon debacle and apollo’s new ride systems that leaves roman rapids and tempesto in that section of festa, but also could add the flats parallel to festa bridge and a good dining option in marco polos marketplace
and trade winds
 
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Bars have been consistently shown as the highest spread place. Drinking encourages spread for a variety of reasons. I think it's just a bad look to sell yourself as family friendly all the time then essentially do nothing for families now.
 
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