Alternatively, an investigation will show there was a SFoG-specific operational or maintenance issue of some sort and nothing will really come of it.
Just way too early to estimate outcomes in my mind.
News Rider Dead After Being Thrown from Goliath at Six Flags Over Georgia
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Alternatively, an investigation will show there was a SFoG-specific operational or maintenance issue of some sort and nothing will really come of it.
Just way too early to estimate outcomes in my mind.
They’ll still make some big changes to the rides regardless of the investigation for insurance purposes
Like, don’t get me wrong, I’d be mildly upset if I had a trip to Carowinds planned (would likely just cancel considering it’s a 3 hour trip each way), but I wouldn’t be mad about Fury/TS being closed in any way. It’s expected (and appreciated) that they’re exercising caution on a wider scale rather than going “eh it’s fine, Nitro isn’t the one that this occurred on.”
Yeah thats not at all how it goes. Just because a certain model crashes doesn't shut down the entire model line. Do you know how many 737 crashes there have been in its history? There have been 230 total hull losses over its life span. That doesnt include just engine failures, engines falling off, etc. They never immediately ground all models of an aircraft after an incident until after multiple similar incidents (737 Maxx8). They investigate the incident and then make recommendations on the findings because they know the testing these systems have been through and their reliability. Same with the B&M clamshell reliability. Everyone on here is screaming how reliable they are and that mechanical failure is virtually 0% chance. They've been in use for 25+ years with 0 mechanical failures. So why then shouldnt the other rides continue based on the track record? Are you saying you now believe the clamshell design to be unsafe or inferior? What if it was a mechanical failure? Will you avoid all B&M coasters that use them even if its determined the mechanical failure was an isolated incident to this event?
Obviously too early to tell what happened but I have seen on tik tok roller coaster enthusiasts managing to get dispatched on Goliath specifically with a very concerning amount of room between their legs and the clamshell. Seems that the ops were letting it happen. I wonder if something like that could have happened here. Regardless I’m sure those videos will be used to show negligence on six flag’s part.
We don't know. That's the problem.
Also, comparing this situation to the airline industry is really disanalogous in my opinion. Cancelling flights en masse causes an enormous wave of second order impacts that are difficult to mitigate and can cause real social and economic damage. Closing a coaster carries none of those issues. Additionally, the aviation industry is incredibly strictly regulated with an entire federal agency dedicated to its oversight with incredibly strict maintenance and safety standards. None of that exists in the amusement park space.
It's apples to oranges.
The reaction to simply taking a precaution which may achieve nothing but could also save a life being "well why would we assume it happens again?" is baffling. The precaution is pretty much bare minimum. B&M is asking these parks to ACTUALLY do nothing. It is a minor inconvenience. So what if it accomplishes nothing? Some amusement rides were closed for a while?
Just got through watching a video where an attorney was demanding that all coasters from B&M should be closed. Curious to see the discourse as this all plays out.
My guess is all northern American B&M hypers will be operational by the end of the week. I’m sure B&M flew a team out within a couple of hours, and they will determine if it was a mechanical failure very quickly. If it was something mechanical, they’ll have all of their rides inspected and figure out what was different. I think we’re forgetting these rides have operated for 20+ years without issue. I trust B&M knows what they’re doing; of course, the state has to do its inspection, but B&M will be right beside them.
Um there are times that planes have immediately been grounded the Concorde comes to mind and that was with a close to 30 year history without a crash. On top of that sub model ground holds or holds till an inspection can be done have been done numbers of times. Also ising the plsn example do to flight data recordings and other sources it's very rear to have a commercial plane crash an not have a general theory as to what to start looking at the sane is not true here.
B&M offers both options. Both legacy Cedar Fair and Six Flags chose the option of go or no go belts, whereas United Parks chose the option with slightly longer belts.
Irregardless of option chosen, a failed locking mechanism on a OTSR leaving it only held closed by its seatbelt is too far open to be a "safe" position for smaller riders, but is still likely to contain a rider as it surrounds the rider.
Put your thinking cap on. I am not talking about every plane crash. But one that is caused due to a systematic failure. And talking about the 737, there are over 20 different variations of the 737 through multiple generations. Of course they wouldn't ground 12,000 aircraft after every single crash. It would be the same variation, and not every single one. Just like how B&M has multiple models in their portfolio. Going back to your point about the 737's. Very few of those hull losses are due to systematic failures. I am not talking about the hull loses that were results of crashes due to human error or poor judgement. A large amount of those hull loses were write offs after overruns. The whole 737 Max issue was because it was an issue with the computer system and not a faulty engine or human error.
On the Strange and Tragic Accident at Six Flags Over Georgia | National Review
I find it almost impossible to believe that this was a restraint failure. But the details are certainly peculiar.
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This is probably the best and most accurate news article I have seen about this incident.
With all of the annoyance about closing hypers and gigas I have a few things to say about it: I understand it's sad you can't go on a trip and ride some coasters, but it's more sad that someone died no matter if they were a coaster enthusiast or not. Someone genuinely died. As someone who has experienced first hand with many loved ones deaths it's a lot.
I remember these - went on Nitro opening year. Didn't create issue at all and worked super fine. Wonder if B&M will need to reimplement if it indeed is a manufacturer issue vs. staff/user error?