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Do ride ops typically not get to the park till right at opening times? I figured they would get the rides working/testing atleast like an hour before the park opens but maybe not since it's off season technically.

Also lets say pantheon breaks at the last 10min the park is open.. are they required to get it working again for the next day/before closing or are they allowes to just leave a ride broken till the next day?
 
MrBradferd said:
Do ride ops typically not get to the park till right at opening times?
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It depends on the ride. Most coasters and flat rides that are just a simple "turn the ride on, send a few test trains, make sure there's no faults" the ride ops arrive 15-30 minutes before park opens. Some rides require more to be done before opening, so they may require the ops to get there a bit earlier.
MrBradferd said:
Also lets say pantheon breaks at the last 10min the park is open.. are they required to get it working again for the next day/before closing or are they allowes to just leave a ride broken till the next day?
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Ride ops have nothing to do with that, but maintenance has people who work late at night and early in the morning. It would depend on exactly what the issue is, but most stuff would be fixed either late that night or early the next morning. They wouldn't just wait till the park is open the next day to start fixing it if that's what you're asking.
 
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rollercoastercoaster said:
It depends on the ride. Most coasters and flat rides that are just a simple "turn the ride on, send a few test trains, make sure there's no faults" the ride ops arrive 15-30 minutes before park opens. Some rides require more to be done before opening, so they may require the ops to get there a bit earlier.

Ride ops have nothing to do with that, but maintenance has people who work late at night and early in the morning. It would depend on exactly what the issue is, but most stuff would be fixed either late that night or early the next morning. They wouldn't just wait till the park is open the next day to start fixing it if that's what you're asking.
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Yea essentially what im asking. I was only curious because I got to the park last friday early and never saw pantheon test once till well after the park opened. But i assume it was just having quite a few issues starting back up since halloween. I remember seeing apollo test way before park opens so I was just curious.

So maintenance will test a ride even late late at night if it's having issues?
 
MrBradferd said:
So maintenance will test a ride even late late at night if it's having issues?
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It would really just depend on the issue I think. If it's just a simple sensor that tripped they'd ofc just reset it then, but if it's actually something somewhat major I would guess they'd fix it then, but I'm not 100% sure about that. Generally though they don't really run tests at night, they do like 2 per train then put the ride down for the night.
 
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During regular operation (meaning scheduled operation for the ride), a green tag inspection by maintenance personnel is performed every operating day along with scheduled PMing. Once complete, the ride is then handed over to the operations team to run their checks (usually a simpler version of the maintenance green tag checks). When this is complete, guests may ride.

During a breakdown at any point during normal operation requiring maintenance, maintenance personnel will arrive and diagnose the problem and fix it. It doesn't matter the time of day. Some jobs require overnight work so park operating hours don't interfere with the work being done. Typically, if the park closes and the ride is down for an extended period, depending on the nature of the issue, it can be held off til the morning for the green tagging crew to take care of. More often than not, however, it is fixed that night.

Testing can be done any time by maintenance personnel as long as it is deemed safe by them. What you saw with Pantheon was likely the final commissioning cycles that Operations and Maintenance both require on newly built trains. They were maybe running behind and needed to finish. A decent number of hours are needed to run new trains before anyone is allowed to ride.
 
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AIR said:
During regular operation (meaning scheduled operation for the ride), a green tag inspection by maintenance personnel is performed every operating day along with scheduled PMing. Once complete, the ride is then handed over to the operations team to run their checks (usually a simpler version of the maintenance green tag checks). When this is complete, guests may ride.

During a breakdown at any point during normal operation requiring maintenance, maintenance personnel will arrive and diagnose the problem and fix it. It doesn't matter the time of day. Some jobs require overnight work so park operating hours don't interfere with the work being done. Typically, if the park closes and the ride is down for an extended period, depending on the nature of the issue, it can be held off til the morning for the green tagging crew to take care of. More often than not, however, it is fixed that night.

Testing can be done any time by maintenance personnel as long as it is deemed safe by them. What you saw with Pantheon was likely the final commissioning cycles that Operations and Maintenance both require on newly built trains. They were maybe running behind and needed to finish. A decent number of hours are needed to run new trains before anyone is allowed to ride.
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Thank you. Yea id imagine a newely rebuilt train needs run hours. Do they test them with dummys just incase the any of the added weight knocks any mistakes loose?
 
AIR said:
No. Dummies are only for loading ride vehicles for accelerometer testing, not the function of the vehicle.
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It's a bit more complicated, as some rides have a minimum weight which requires ballast for testing. Some rides only require ballast during cold weather or strong winds. Some rides (example, The Big One at Blackpool Pleasure Beach) even will load some rows with ballast (sand bags) during windy weather (common near the shore) if they don't have enough riders to fill the train. Rides that regularly require ballast for testing are often easy to identify. For example, Millennium Force at Cedar Point. There is a reason the water dummies are stacked alongside the unload platform. Sometimes when MF finishes testing late, the unload platform is soaked from the draining of the dummies.
 
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How does handicap work? I just saw the same 3 people take the front row on apollo 2 times within 10min.
 
MrBradferd said:
How does handicap work? I just saw the same 3 people take the front row on apollo 2 times within 10min.
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If the line for a ride is less than 20 minutes RAP people are boarded on the next train after they arrive at a ride. If the line is longer than 20 minutes they are given a time that is a rough estimate of the lines length, and are told to come back at the time. It's not like Quick Queue though, because people can choose any row or seat they want, which is how they rode the front 2 times in 10 minutes.
 
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rollercoastercoaster said:
If the line for a ride is less than 20 minutes RAP people are boarded on the next train after they arrive at a ride. If the line is longer than 20 minutes they are given a time that is a rough estimate of the lines length, and are told to come back at the time. It's not like Quick Queue though, because people can choose any row or seat they want, which is how they rode the front 2 times in 10 minutes.
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The ride is longer than 20min though. Apollo was in the station and it took me 40min for the front. Thats not 20min lol
 
rollercoastercoaster said:
Likely new ride operators or just ones who aren't experienced with 1 train ops and underestimated the length of the line. They shouldn't have allowed that.
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I know at one point going to Hershey with a friend that had an handicap pass if you wanted front row someone had to go wait in line to get that. They used to make you pick 3rd row or back.
 
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rollercoastercoaster said:
If the line for a ride is less than 20 minutes RAP people are boarded on the next train after they arrive at a ride. If the line is longer than 20 minutes they are given a time that is a rough estimate of the lines length, and are told to come back at the time. It's not like Quick Queue though, because people can choose any row or seat they want, which is how they rode the front 2 times in 10 minutes.
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With QQ, can you not chose your row? Any coasters with QQ that you can choose row?
 
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