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So I have been thinking...

We know the proposed bridge is going to require the demolition of the queues (and op booths?) for both Little Balloons and Little Gliders. It's not impossible to find a solution to this that doesn't involve moving the rides. An example of this would be wrapping new queues around the outside of the ride areas like below:

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The issue, of course, is that this would eat further into the already constrained path space through this area. It would also make the entry area around the bridge to the park's new attraction sorta a circus.

I'm very much leaning towards the idea that, at a minimum, Little Gliders is going to move. It can be dropped right onto the Flying Machine plot with next to zero difficulty, it could fix the current pipeline encroachment, and would likely allow the park to better conceal the easement area.

I've also been thinking about the new bridge. It's pretty narrow. It's not too narrow to just be a guest pathway, but it is still fairly narrow. Instead of it being a bridge to a new plaza for this attraction, what if it were part of the queue itself and what we're looking at on the other side of the bridge isn't a new ride plaza but actually the queue and load/unload area?

If Gliders goes and the bridge is used for queue, Gliders' current ride pad could be used for queue as well. Put a tall fence or wall along the back to block views of the easement, put some covers up over this extended queue space and across the bridge, and I think this could work.

Using the bridge as queue would move the attraction's entrance right into Da Vinci's Garden. I think there are pros and cons to this for sure. Thematically, it probably makes things a lot more difficult. It will probably also cause some undesirable congestion if path widening doesn't take place into the gardens. That said, it would also place the ride's entrance directly on the existence guest artery through San Marcos almost certainly resulting in higher ridership.


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Not necessarily advocating for something like this, but thought it was an interesting proposal.
I've been thinking along those lines. Moving either balloons or gliders or both makes much more sense. They'll fit in the proper Garden of Inventions area. Otherwise, that's just way too much congestion on the other side of the path.

I am fine with the entrance to the cars right along the path. I don't think every new ride needs an all new plaza. I just hope it matches the theme of that section as much as possible. Is there a chance these cars are styled as a Da Vinci invention? Obviously loosely.
 
Suppose they move the two kiddie rides to the available sites on the other side-- that would widen out the pinch point there. Or move them both to one of those sites (I'd think the Cradle's site could easily hold both). That would alleviate the congestion and leave only one vacant flat pad (unless they move the Scrambler there for its next relocation). That could create more space for dining around Trappers too.
 
Are the queues and buildings still at the Flying Machine and Cradle? The two story building at Cradle was the controls?
 
Are the queues and buildings still at the Flying Machine and Cradle? The two story building at Cradle was the controls?

Yes they're all still there. Flying Machine shared the queue with Battering Ram. And with the Ram still operational the queue house is still intact however the entrance side to Flying Machine is boarded up.

You can see everything is still up starting at the 44:33 mark in this recent video...

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I always thought that Cradle was themed so well! And to just let that building sit there unoccupied is crazy! I’m liking the idea of moving the two kiddie rides to fill those empty spaces.
 
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Yes! Totally agree! I meant to specify of moving one of the two kiddie rides to fill Fiying Machines spot. Little Gliders is the best one to keep… but I hate to loose balloons for the tykes. With a new attraction coming to this section… do you think we may see a reinvention of the area? Moving The Gliders to Flying Machines pad, a replacement for DaVincis cradle and the new ride being the areas flagship?!? If they utilized the Cradle and Machines plots… would we see any plans or possibly at a later stage? When would we possibly see land clearing ?
 
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Yes! Totally agree! I meant to specify of moving one of the two kiddie rides to fill Fiying Machines spot. Little Gliders is the best one to keep… but I hate to loose balloons for the tykes. With a new attraction coming to this section… do you think we may see a reinvention of the area? Moving The Gliders to Flying Machines pad, a replacement for DaVincis cradle and the new ride being the areas flagship?!? If they utilized the Cradle and Machines plots… would we see any plans or possibly at a later stage? When would we possibly see land clearing ?
I would say we should see some more things in the next few months as planning continues. Land clearing will likely follow as approvals come in.
 
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Artwork for the new car ride, and most shockingly, artwork for a proposed Brothers Grimm Dark Ride. United doesn't have the best track record with dark rides, but the concept art looks pretty polished (love the Wolf!). This seems to bring back the old Grimm's Hollow concept.

I could see all of these proposals getting built. Flying Theater ride would be a clone of SeaWorld's Arctic ride, I'm guessing. I was looking at really old park maps on eBay and it looks like there were more animals, like bison, at the park long ago, which I didn't know.
 
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Artwork for the new car ride, and most shockingly, artwork for a proposed Brothers Grimm Dark Ride. United doesn't have the best track record with dark rides, but the concept art looks pretty polished (love the Wolf!). This seems to bring back the old Grimm's Hollow concept.

I could see all of these proposals getting built. Flying Theater ride would be a clone of SeaWorld's Arctic ride, I'm guessing. I was looking at really old park maps on eBay and it looks like there were more animals, like bison, at the park long ago, which I didn't know.

Most of those offerings would satisfy so many demographics. Would be nice if they somehow incorporated most of these (minus EiTA flying theater *yawn) in the upcoming years. Would definitely be a huge boost for the park.
 
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None of these graphics are polished as they're all generated with AI.

Also, the survey was covered here in case you missed it/haven't been reading the Park Surveys thread:


Future survey discussion that isn't EXPLICITLY about the potential Le Mans sequel will be moved to the Park Surveys thread to keep things unified.
 
Well, if that’s the concept art then it’s definitely not going to be a thematic sibling to Da Vinci garden.
 
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Our daughter came over yesterday with her dog to hang out with us at the pool. She has an upcoming trip to Tampa and is flying down on Sunday so that she can go to BGT.

We were discussing all of the times we brought our kids to BGW (she was about 15 months old the first time she was there) and I mentioned that there is a very strong rumor that the cars are coming back, rebranded as Italian LeMans. I explained the expected location and she was beyond thrilled. Her comments included that it was one of the best ever family rides and how the Dorney version of cars was so disappointing when compared.

This will be a huge hit. I'm beyond excited and apparently my late 20's daughter feels the same.
 
I’m just curious about how this attraction is going to be themed and if it’s going to be associated with San Marco and the Gardens or something else; I really do think that replacements for Cradle and Flying Machine need to be the next project. With the amazing theming of Loch Ness and BBW; I can’t wait to see what is coming
 
I’m just curious about how this attraction is going to be themed and if it’s going to be associated with San Marco and the Gardens or something else; I really do think that replacements for Cradle and Flying Machine need to be the next project. With the amazing theming of Loch Ness and BBW; I can’t wait to see what is coming
If the entrance is in Garden of Inventions, then it would probably take that same theme. You could probably name it “Mille Miglia”, or maybe just “Auto da corsa” (race car).
 
I posted the survey entry for the cars in the surveys chat. The image associated with the survey is not what I would hang my hat on for theming but the language used was "colorful European- style race cars". With that being the only indicator we have, it doesn't seem they are going to be themed to anything Da Vinci related.
 
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