News Project 2027/Purple: Delayed “World Record Breaking Coaster" (Phantom Spire?)

[northdetective]

As someone who visited KI, KD, and GAdv within the span of a week last year, this is quite possibly one of the most absurd takes I think I’ve ever heard. In fact, I’d go as far to say I enjoyed KD the LEAST, and the people that went with me agree with me on that sentiment. GAdv is most definitely a superior park to KD, and KI is better than both of them at the moment. Then again, you have brown grass, so I guess that kinda explains things

this really skewed my perception of what's reasonable in your eyes

 

[shodowhater]

Well this is fucking aggravating. I'm sure it'll be great, but... come on, guys, really? Really?

 

[harry580]

I just reading this and people are still bashing this supposed coaster as if its gonna be windjammer all over again

what's a time

people should realise that this is not replacing kingda ka (the land where that coaster used to be is still empty and phantom spire is going where half of the parking lot, half of green lantern, parachute tower & twister used to be)

add to that, im sure this new coaster height will match kingda ka heights

 

[kmaster805]

Food for thought in case anyone is buying into the "a strata just wasn't achievable!" line of thinking:

CEDAR FAIR MANAGEMENT JUST GOT DONE BUILDING A GROUND-UP STRATA COASTER SPIKE FOR TOP THRILL 2! TT2'S ENTIRELY NEW, FREE-STANDING SPIKE IS 420 FEET TALL!​

Expecting the same for SFGAdv—a park with what I sincerely believe to be a higher potential ceiling than Cedar Point's—after they blew up Ka, removed a ton of other rides, and delayed the project a full year is completely, 100% reasonable. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I’m gonna get absolutely grilled for this, but I don’t care,

Using TT2 isn’t a good example.

The economy and state of the company while tt2 was being developed and built was VERY different than it was today.

On top of that the ride sat dormant for a year because of an (albeit unrelated) issue.

I’m upset too, I wanted this to be 400ft at least, but I understand the world is in a very different position than it was 2 years ago.

 

[Suspense]

I’m curious if this’ll break 100mph . Fury 325 is 95mph, Superman escape from krypton was 100mph. Superman probably only went ~350ft up the tower though. So it probably will I think? 100 mph is definitely another selling point I’d assume they want to hit (although I also assumed 400ft was the main selling point)

Quick edit - red force is 367 feet tall and allegedly launches at 111mph, so I think we must be looking at 100+

 

[Clear]

I want to add another frustration:

If this is a great ride, another park will add it and they have an option for the potential strat. Meaning this being under 400 now potentially has the chance of being outdone by another park thus rendering it kinda irrelevant
(Likely ? No. But still a possibility)

 

[Tacky3663]

You’ve gotta be fucking kidding me

 

[kmaster805]

I want to add another frustration:

If this is a great ride, another park will add it and they have an option for the potential strat. Meaning this being under 400 now potentially has the chance of being outdone by another park thus rendering it kinda irrelevant
(Likely ? No. But still a possibility)

Hey wonderland

 

[telamark]

No doubt this project will still be mind-blowing and a great draw and future investment into the park, but it’s so disappointing that they couldn’t bother to make this a strata. I’m so pissed.

 

[wasteman]

people should realise that this is not replacing kingda ka

I keep seeing people say this and I can't help but feel like it's cope, because in every sense besides land use this is a pretty direct replacement for Kingda Ka. They're hoping to have this take Ka's place as the icon of Great Adventure, it'll (almost) define the parks skyline the way Ka used to, they're going to use this for the next 20 years of Great Adventure advertising the way they used Ka for the last 20, and just looking at the coasters design you could tell this was meant to function in a similar role to Ka. It's a gimmicky, out and back coaster with only a couple elements, and for the most part it exists purely for its height and speed. Basically even if this isn't the Ka replacement in the literal sense that it's reusing the same land, it is Ka's replacement in terms of what it will (or at least should) mean for the parks lineup.

 

[mkj3322]

I want to add another frustration:

If this is a great ride, another park will add it and they have an option for the potential strat. Meaning this being under 400 now potentially has the chance of being outdone by another park thus rendering it kinda irrelevant
(Likely ? No. But still a possibility)

My two guesses from the start (In writing) were 350 feet high and that any success would lead to this same model replacing superman at magic mountain.

 

[telamark]

I keep seeing people say this and I can't help but feel like it's cope, because in every sense besides land use this is a pretty direct replacement for Kingda Ka. They're hoping to have this take Ka's place as the icon of Great Adventure, it'll (almost) define the parks skyline the way Ka used to, they're going to use this for the next 20 years of Great Adventure advertising the way they used Ka for the last 20, and just looking at the coasters design you could tell this was meant to function in a similar role to Ka. It's a gimmicky, out and back coaster with only a couple elements, and for the most part it exists purely for its height and speed. Basically even if this isn't the Ka replacement in the literal sense that it's reusing the same land, it is Ka's replacement in terms of what it will (or at least should) mean for the parks lineup.

This is exactly what I’ve been saying internally when talking about the spinner, this is THE replacement for Kingda Ka, NOT Green Lantern or the other boardwalk attractions removed. They didn’t even list Lantern in the removal announcement and centered around Ka, for obvious reasons. Just because it’s ’not in its plot’ doesn’t discount the fact that it’s not its replacement, there’s no way in hell we’re getting something even bigger than the 375 foot spinner on Ka’s plot or in any way down the line.

 

[RDL]

Maybe I’m being dumb, but perhaps the reason CF could afford the extra height for TT2 was due to Zamperla being an American company, and not from Germany like Mack Rides. Just my thoughts

 

[RDL]

My two guesses from the start (In writing) were 350 feet high and that any success would lead to this same model replacing superman at magic mountain.

I doubt this model is getting sent anywhere else. They wouldn’t have the space considering where Superman was located

This ride is likely going to be specific to Great Adventure. Not only is it extremely expensive (most likely), but it’s also going to a park that needs guests more than anything else. They’re not going to take a ride like this and put it elsewhere especially if they want GAdv to be a destination park again, in which it seems like they do.

 

[Clear]

I keep seeing people say this and I can't help but feel like it's cope, because in every sense besides land use this is a pretty direct replacement for Kingda Ka. They're hoping to have this take Ka's place as the icon of Great Adventure, it'll (almost) define the parks skyline the way Ka used to, they're going to use this for the next 20 years of Great Adventure advertising the way they used Ka for the last 20, and just looking at the coasters design you could tell this was meant to function in a similar role to Ka. It's a gimmicky, out and back coaster with only a couple elements, and for the most part it exists purely for its height and speed. Basically even if this isn't the Ka replacement in the literal sense that it's reusing the same land, it is Ka's replacement in terms of what it will (or at least should) mean for the parks lineup.

This thing is now borderline 100ft shorter than Ka.

If it were 401ft we could’ve expected the train to realistically top at like 375ft- 385ft Now we can expect 345ft-355ft. Big difference

Also this height kinda makes any possibly future giga a silly addition.

Truly just a head scratcher of a decision. Hopefully someone can ask Ryan some challenging questions during an interview for a legitimate explanation and hopefully he understands how disappointing this is to fans

 

[Zachary]

Using TT2 isn’t a good example.

The economy and state of the company while tt2 was being developed and built was VERY different than it was today.

Yep, which is why, evidently, Ka should have never been demoed. If the chain couldn't, for whatever reason, justify an equally-prestigeous replacement, a renovation project for Ka was the only right solution. Ka had a perfectly usable 456 foot tall tower. Blowing it up was always an obscene waste of resources (I have contemporaneous rants about this to cite if anyone thinks this is a hindsight being 20/20 situation), but it was at least stomachable from the guest standpoint when the understanding was that there would still be a new strata at the other end of it all.

If they couldn't justify building a new 400ft tall structure, they needed to not blow up the one they had.

On top of that the ride sat dormant for a year because of an (albeit unrelated) issue.

For which they received Siren's Curse, for the record. Cedar Point effectively lost use of their strata for a couple years and got a new 420ft tall spike out of it PLUS a hyper marketable, reportedly very good, Vekoma tilt coaster. SFGAdv lost their strata permanently and they got some SFA hand-me-downs and a shuttle giga. Even if you believe Cedar Point should be treated better, this discrepancy is wild.

Maybe I’m being dumb, but perhaps the reason CF could afford the extra height for TT2 was due to Zamperla being an American company, and not from Germany like Mack Rides. Just my thoughts

Zamperla is Italian for the record.

 

[Dupa Jas]

This whole sequence, from the removal of multiple coasters at once, through this underwhelming reveal- hasn’t been great. I’m sure it will be fine, but this (what feels like) half-assing just zapped my interest in making it out there anytime soon.

Glad I made it out there for Kingda Ka and Green Lantern when I did.

 

[RDL]

Zamperla is Italian for the record.

Thought they were based out of Parsippany, guess I was off the mark there

TT2 was still pre-Trump 2.0 so tariffs didn’t exist

Though part of me is starting to think cost isn’t the reason they’re not going 400ft

 

[MrBradferd]

Even if it was 400ft the train wasnt getting near it. Still in my eyes woulda been a fake strata. Least now it's not trying to be something it actually isin't Just fake stats

 

[SixFlagsIssues]

Zamperla is Italian for the record.

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