There are almost certainly many more footers to come. The footers we have right now are almost certainly just through the end of the inverted-launched-stall-thing. There will likely be a notably longer pull-out than your drawing suggests, followed by another, right-side-up launch/breaking segment and then a huge, very elongated pull-up into the main tower.
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There are almost certainly many more footers to come. The footers we have right now are almost certainly just through the end of the inverted-launched-stall-thing. There will likely be a notably longer pull-out than your drawing suggests, followed by another, right-side-up launch/breaking segment and then a huge, very elongated pull-up into the main tower.
Looking at the plot of land, only half being poured means the layout is definitely going back to where the Ka tower wasYes, this is only half of it
That video was taken 2 weeks ago. A lot of work could have been done since then. The people on the ACE tour didn't get to go that far into the construction site. Does anyone have pictures of what the parking lot half looks like now?
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What you're pointing out makes sense. It might go against some things Six Flags has claimed (shocker) the most notable of which is ride length. Six Flags could be fudging it by saying "more track than Ka" by counting the return trip to the station. Even still, what's in the picture is about 900' from the presumed station to the possible tower if you're right. Figure the launch point is ~100' from the station, so ~800' of track to get up to speed before hitting the tower. That's similar to Ka, which had ~1000' of track from station to tower. Whether full circuit or just counting the return ride down, even if the track spirals up around the tower like in the initial concept animation, and adding in a tower supposedly about as tall as Ka (400'+), that's still only ~3/4 or so as long as Ka was and nowhere near "more" track than Ka used. And some think the tower might be shorter than that because they could be fudging the "tallest" claim, too, when it may just be the tallest Mack ride to date. If that turned out to be right, it's even less track. Just thinking out loud. All depends on how much we're being outright lied to for PR purposes by the company.
I will note in the ACE visit videos and pics, there were a lot more fresh piles of soil and rebar visibly sticking up out of poured foundations or foundation pour forms down toward the possible tower footprint at the end of that aerial. So current pours are closer to 80% if the line you drew was 50% and the footprints in the aerial are all that'll be done. And the look I got of the site when I was there on Thursday appeared to have more heavy equipment and ground work beyond the large footprint at the end in the aerial shot. I couldn't get close enough to have a better look at the time, so fwiw.
Great Adventurer has two good shots of down that end in his post on pg 74 from his ACE visit.
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Thanks! It looks like most of those footers have been poured from his shots.
A basic view with Ka showing the poured extent to date and possible tower location, plus the end of the new fenceline and the area of marked trees, which could just be for utility work and not the ride. If there's any truth to what was said at the ACE event and based on the current poured progress, it sure seems like it's possible there'll be more work to come past where things have been dug so far, maybe after the season when they don't have to maintain road access at that far end. On the other hand, maybe what we see is all there'll be. We'll know what's what when we see it with our own eyes with this company.
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Rewatching a video of the ACE event Q&A, Ryan the PR guy says:
1.) It has an incredibly large footprint.
2.) The footprint for the ride is larger than Kingda Ka's.
3.) The track length is longer than Kingda Ka's.
4.) 50% of the footers are complete.
1.) It has an incredibly large footprint.
2.) The footprint for the ride is larger than Kingda Ka's.
3.) The track length is longer than Kingda Ka's.
4.) 50% of the footers are complete.
Do they mean track length is ‘longer’ due to how it’s a shuttle?
Edit: Didn’t realize it was already said before lol but I think it’s honestly something we really should think about. Depends how footers are right now to the ACE event.
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If they're fudging those claims by counting it that way, it would line up almost perfectly for the tower to be at the marked trees at the end of the fenced off area. That's 1400' from the presumed station. Combined with a, say, 460' tower to juuuuust top Ka's height, would make ~1800' the cars travel from the station. Count the return trip and the length of track one travels on the ride is juuuust longer than Ka's. That's so technically accurate but practically wrong that it almost has to be what'll happen, though it would mean we get a really long ride.
I would say expect the baseline Mack tower, be pleasantly surprised if there’s more. The Alpenfury survey picture is very clearly concept art, not based on any real design. We essentially have all the pieces of the proposed Mack design, which we didn’t have for Alpenfury.
I don’t expect it’ll be a massive redesign, maybe just some slight alterations (if any at all)
I don’t expect it’ll be a massive redesign, maybe just some slight alterations (if any at all)
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Off topic, but GAdv not being able to repaint Nitro due to "budget reasons" while parks like GAm, SFOG, and SFOT are all repainting coasters right now is so frustrating to me. GAdv operated on a limited budget despite printing so much cash during the JRA era and suffered immensely because of it, and right as parks are finally allowed to operate on independent budgets, GAdv no longer pulls in the crowds necessary to pay their staff properly/invest in future development. Hersheypark knew exactly what was going on and made sure they took advantage of it.
This is the most frustrating thing ever as a fan of the park.
This is the most frustrating thing ever as a fan of the park.
Also off topic, but if that's the case, then I have little faith we will see the same theming/special effect improvements that Great America gave to their Batman and Dark Knight. I don't understand why things like that and paint wouldn't be a company wide thing and only at an individual park level because it creates an inconsistent experience across the chain.
i really don't think management has properly grappled with how low the park's standing has fallen with the GP in the last decade. it's an overpriced dated park that looks and feels cheap. go compare the park maps from 2025 and 2015. it's not just that the 2015 visually looks better (personal preference maybe but the new simplified style just looks cheap), but the park is so much more alive. yeah its a bit of a cheap shot bc the park is in transition, but there were more rides, more shows, more performances, and more investment in the park then. if you're a member of the public who's not tapped in to the news or industry trends or anything, you've just seen a park get fewer rides, the condition of everything get worse, half the stuff that is open looks abandoned. you're getting less for more money. ops are thin. some rides break or close down at a super high rate. want to go on the log flume? sorry its been closed for most of the last two years. want to go to a show or concert or see fireworks? haven't done those in a decade? want to do the safari? sorry that's a separate ticket luxury experience now. oh and everything costs more and if you want to get food for a family of four its gonna be almost as much as buying a new ticket.
It certainly doesn’t help that we’ve lost Aqua Spectacle, Festival Stage, Great Lake Grandstand, Liberty Square Gazebo, and Adventure Theater since 2015. The park has so few viable venues left, it’s a shame.
I know it would literally never happen, but I wish as part of the 10 year plan they would convert everything superhero in the park to just Gotham/Batman. It is canonically in New Jersey after all. I'd love for Battle for Metropolis to be rethemed to Battle for Gotham, Flash to be rethemed to a Batman villain (Mr. Freeze?), etc, etc. Make Great Adventure the Batman park if we're gonna continue w the superhero thing.
If I have time, I'd love to make comprehensive retheming plans for every Six Flags park. I think cohesion=immersion. Even if the theming isn't Disney or even Herschend level, at least having some consistent and unique themes in these parks would go a long way.
If I have time, I'd love to make comprehensive retheming plans for every Six Flags park. I think cohesion=immersion. Even if the theming isn't Disney or even Herschend level, at least having some consistent and unique themes in these parks would go a long way.
As much as I’d rather see the DC IP leave the park entirely, I agree. Half of the park’s DC themed attractions are Batman themed already with Batman, Dark Knight, Joker, and Harley Quinn. With Lantern and Cyborg gone, the only other DC rides in the park are Superman, Wonder Woman, Justice League, and Flash.
If they’re gonna keep DC around, I’d really like for it to be limited to the current Movietown/Metropolis area. Superman has never made any sense for a boardwalk themed area and Joker/HQ also don’t make much sense on the lakefront near Buccaneer, Swashbuckler, Jolly Roger, etc.
If they’re gonna keep DC around, I’d really like for it to be limited to the current Movietown/Metropolis area. Superman has never made any sense for a boardwalk themed area and Joker/HQ also don’t make much sense on the lakefront near Buccaneer, Swashbuckler, Jolly Roger, etc.
I don't see them spending the money on changing The Flash. Wouldn't it just be easier to retheme Superman to some other aviation or bird theme? Do you know what else has nearly the same paint scheme?
If they want a quick Superman ride, a new 3-leg S&S tower would work just as well (like Superman: Tower of Power at SFOT). Put that somewhere near Batman and Wonder Woman so you have all three in one land, next to the Justice League ride.
Joker and Harley Quinn-themed coasters would be the only leftovers, both could be converted to a Pirate theme. But honestly these don't stick out as much as Superman.
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