News Project 2027/Purple: Delayed “World Record Breaking Coaster" (Phantom Spire?)

[Nitro230]

Part of me is starting to feel scared that they downsized it. I can’t see a 400ft ride fitting in this plot.

There are trees with markers next to where ka’s tower was, I think the markers mean they are set for removal but I could be wrong. I don’t think it’s confined to just the parking lot

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This was the video that started the nonsense. Doesn’t list any sources, just says it’s the replacement, no supporting information, nothin. The comments are equally as insane. Whole lot of rambling and not a lot of substance.

 

[mkj3322]

So topic for discussion. Let's say this thing is 400' high, how high do we think the train goes? 350'? Not many shuttles that make it any where near the top out there. Curious to see what they're even planning for top height.

 

[DWNitro]

So topic for discussion. Let's say this thing is 400' high, how high do we think the train goes? 350'? Not many shuttles that make it any where near the top out there. Curious to see what they're even planning for top height.

Hey, it’s gonna be 421’ tall with a flag on top that makes it 456’ (in my dreams)

 

[warfelg]

Anybody who is saying its not the mack tower is trying to will their own fantasy into existence basically. They think if they hope hard enough that it will change

Actually just the opposite. Don’t assume it’s that until we actually have evidence showing what it is.

 

[wasteman]

So topic for discussion. Let's say this thing is 400' high, how high do we think the train goes? 350'? Not many shuttles that make it any where near the top out there. Curious to see what they're even planning for top height.

I feel like it would defeat the point of the ride if it didn't make it up to the outerbanked turn at the top of the tower every time, I hope they would have it programmed in such a way that it gets all the way up there consistently.

 

[Nitro230]

I feel like it would defeat the point of the ride if it didn't make it up to the outerbanked turn at the top of the tower every time, I hope they would have it programmed in such a way that it gets all the way up there consistently.

This, that’s the main draw of the ride, don’t think Mack rides would try and sell this if they didn’t think it could actually reach that height

 

[warfelg]

So topic for discussion. Let's say this thing is 400' high, how high do we think the train goes? 350'? Not many shuttles that make it any where near the top out there. Curious to see what they're even planning for top height.

We’re at one of my biggest “grinds my gears” thing here. If the spike is 400 feet but the train only goes 325’, then it’s a strata coaster in name only. Really it’s a giga. That’s why I appreciated Ka so much.

 

[AmyUD06]

So topic for discussion. Let's say this thing is 400' high, how high do we think the train goes? 350'? Not many shuttles that make it any where near the top out there. Curious to see what they're even planning for top height.

Hey, it’s gonna be 421’ tall with a flag on top that makes it 456’ (in my dreams)

I feel like it would defeat the point of the ride if it didn't make it up to the outerbanked turn at the top of the tower every time, I hope they would have it programmed in such a way that it gets all the way up there consistently.

We’re at one of my biggest “grinds my gears” thing here. If the spike is 400 feet but the train only goes 325’, then it’s a strata coaster in name only. Really it’s a giga. That’s why I appreciated Ka so much.

To everyone speculating on how high the train will go up the tower, you sure do conveniently forget the details of the coaster portrayed in the survey that you are so confident will be coming:

When the train gets to the top of the tower, the track almost levels off and it does a little loop around the top of the tower.



If you're so convinced that this new coaster is this "Mack extreme strata shuttle spinner" that was presented in the survey, at least be consistent with your speculation.

 

[Nitro230]

To everyone speculating on how high the train will go up the tower, you sure do conveniently forget the details of the coaster portrayed in the survey that you are so confident will be coming:

When the train gets to the top of the tower, the track almost levels off and it does a little loop around the top of the tower.

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If you're so convinced that this new coaster is this "Mack extreme strata shuttle spinner" that was presented in the survey, at least be consistent with your speculation.

Wow looks like we touched someone’s nerve

Okay let’s start by admitting that the “400 foot tower” is not very specific, is that the height of the tower? the track? the height the actual trains reach? It doesn’t actually say so speculation over this is valid.

Secondly, with the placement of the footers it’s clear that there have been changes since this was presented in the survey, the track now makes a slight turn to the right before entering the stall. Who’s to say this isn’t the only change made and it’s not exactly 400 feet anymore.

Then finally, that’s the advertised height, but how many rides actually reach all of those every single cycle? Ka never actually reached 128 mph, Superman never reached it’s maximum height at the end of its life. That’s the speculation, we know what the survey said but it doesn’t mean the ride from the survey is exactly what will actually get built.

 

[AmyUD06]

Secondly, with the placement of the footers it’s clear that there have been changes since this was presented in the survey, the track now makes a slight turn to the right before entering the stall. Who’s to say this isn’t the only change made and it’s not exactly 400 feet anymore.

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That’s the speculation, we know what the survey said but it doesn’t mean the ride from the survey is exactly what will actually get built.

You're so, so close....

If the placement of the footers indicate that the survey design isn't being followed exactly, why do you think the survey is in any way applicable? Why do you think that the "reports" from the "highly respected" influencers (whose business is to generate clicks for profit) that were all from months ago, before the announced delay, are still accurate? If one thing is different, everything has a possibility of being different. Everything.

That's all I'm saying. You all are hanging your hat 100% on this still being the Mack extreme strata spinner shuttle (but now just a little different) - who's to say that the plan hasn't changed completely to a different type of ride? You are all getting way too worked up over this.

It's clear that my suggestions of "be rational human beings rather than emotionally-driven fan-people" is falling entirely on deaf ears in this thread, so this will be my last post on the topic until the ride turns out to be something non-Mack, non-strata, non-spinner, and/or non-shuttle just to say "Told you so."

Enjoy arguing over cloud footer shapes.

 

[RDL]

I feel like the part that’s circled here is going to be for the dip that occurs in between the stall and the tower. Having track so close to the ground with supports that are stretched out wouldn’t made a ton of sense, it would all be condensed together to support track that is lower level.

The reason I’m pointing this out is because I’m seeing too many people assume that the circled area is where the tower is gonna be.

I still have my doubts about this being a 400ft project.

 

[Nitro230]

You're so, so close....

If the placement of the footers indicate that the survey design isn't being followed exactly, why do you think the survey is in any way applicable? Why do you think that the "reports" from the "highly respected" influencers (whose business is to generate clicks for profit) that were all from months ago, before the announced delay, are still accurate? If one thing is different, everything has a possibility of being different. Everything.

That's all I'm saying. You all are hanging your hat 100% on this still being the Mack extreme strata spinner shuttle (but now just a little different) - who's to say that the plan hasn't changed completely to a different type of ride? You are all getting way too worked up over this.

It's clear that my suggestions of "be rational human beings rather than emotionally-driven fan-people" is falling entirely on deaf ears in this thread, so this will be my last post on the topic until the ride turns out to be something non-Mack, non-strata, non-spinner, and/or non-shuttle just to say "Told you so."

Enjoy arguing over cloud footer shapes.

Lmao seriously? Surveys are made to gauge interest, just because a ride is shown one way in a survey doesn’t mean that’s the final product. The survey is still applicable because aside from that turn, it looks exactly like what the spinner in the survey did.

I trust those influencers because they already got the first part right, Ka closed, just as they claimed. I didn’t believe until October when the markers started showing up. I don’t trust influencers like that piece if shit Theme Park Brandon who makes videos to drive clicks, where he predicts every park getting a giga or blitz. If someone in the know who rarely makes predictions or bold claims says something as mater a factly as what we’ve heard about the spinner it’s worth noting.

As to if the plans could of changed, maybe but there’s nothing so far that makes it seem like they had. Hope I’m wrong because I don’t love the spinner but I doubt it. I’ve been looking at the evidence right in front of us for months now and everything points it towards the spinner being the new attraction.

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I feel like the part that’s circled here is going to be for the dip that occurs in between the stall and the tower. Having track so close to the ground with supports that are stretched out wouldn’t made a ton of sense, it would all be condensed together to support track that is lower level.

The reason I’m pointing this out is because I’m seeing too many people assume that the circled area is where the tower is gonna be.

I still have my doubts about this being a 400ft project.

Considering that we see that pattern twice I’m assuming that they are the transition in and out of the stall

 

[telamark]

Personally I’d love if they were to relocate a few coasters from America as a “sorry” to us for ka and everything else like how cedar point got sirens curse for the TT2 delay, relocating coasters from there is probably also the cheapest way to get more new things at great adventure because of the tariffs and everything. And it’s not like great adventure doesn’t have the land either, I’d honestly be fine with rajun Cajun, Superman, and wild one all being moved to great adventure. Wild one would probably be the best fit but the least likely imo just because of it being wood. Superman is an amazing ride and would probably bring back loads of people to great adventure just because of the height alone, especially if they market it as a new attraction with the tower coaster aswell, the gp would go wild for the park having 2 200 ft roller coasters and 1 new 400 ft coaster. But as for rajun Cajun it just makes total sense, even if it’s just a temporary thing for a few seasons, but from my reading here it seems that may actually be happening lol

Rajun Cajun I think would help, but I’d hate for anything else to come that doesn’t ‘make’ the park. We’ve had over 2 decades of almost of no additions that are truly original, aside from maybe JDC, and good clones like WW and Flash. But other than those rides, we’ve been slapped in the face with super loops and tourbillons. We need a makeup like Siren’s Curse, as much as the low possibility of it happening, is. Doubt it’d happen though. What everyone’s been wanting for years basically.

 

[RDL]

Should be worth pointing out that Alpenfury was going to be an invert according these same surveys.

While I still think this is going to be the tower, the idea that any ride built is going to end up being an exact clone of what we see in surveys is just not true.

 

[GASM]

But other than those rides, we’ve been slapped in the face with super loops and tourbillons.

Neither of which even lasted very long. El Diablo was decent for an off year, but reusing Rolling Thunder’s switchbacks for a Larson loop felt like a slap in the face, and Cyborg was alright at best when it was actually functional.

I’m in the boat of removing everything in one fell swoop and ripping off the bandaid was probably the best choice, but they need to be just as aggressive with replacements.

 

[Nitro230]

Should be worth pointing out that Alpenfury was going to be an invert according these same surveys.

While I still think this is going to be the tower, the idea that any ride built is going to end up being an exact clone of what we see in surveys is just not true.

I do believe there was also a plan to make alpenfury a wing coaster as well. That being said I don’t see the spinning aspect changing as that’s one of the big gimmicks with the ride. Could see other smaller changes being made though, but the tight turnaround makes me think any changes will be small

 

[RDL]

Neither of which even lasted very long. El Diablo was decent for an off year, but reusing Rolling Thunder’s switchbacks for a Larson loop felt like a slap in the face, and Cyborg was alright at best when it was actually functional.

I’m in the boat of removing everything in one fell swoop and ripping off the bandaid was probably the best choice, but they need to be just as aggressive with replacements.

I hope Joker gets replaced eventually. Nobody ever liked that ride

 

[GASM]

Joker is probably my least favorite coaster in the park now that Lantern is gone. I have Road Runner Railway/Lil Devil ranked lower, but it does absolutely serve a purpose.

 

[RDL]

Joker is probably my least favorite coaster in the park now that Lantern is gone. I have Road Runner Railway/Lil Devil ranked lower, but it does absolutely serve a purpose.

For sure. Joker was such a disappointing addition considering the amount of land that was cleared for it.

 

[DWNitro]

I hope Joker gets replaced eventually. Nobody ever liked that ride

It’s fine since it’s unique to all the other coasters in the park and doesn’t take up much space, but I wish they’d find somewhere else in the park to move it, like over by Batman. That land where it is now could be used for something better.