News Project 2027/Purple: Delayed “World Record Breaking Coaster" (Phantom Spire?)
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I was actually thinking the same thing with alpen fury, and it sure fits the “multi launch record breaker” statement they made esp. since the mack tower spinner only sorta fits that description.
I’d be thrilled with a sprawling multi launcher from intamin, premier or mack…. Maybe even throw the mack spinner on a layout like alpen fury.
I’d be thrilled with a sprawling multi launcher from intamin, premier or mack…. Maybe even throw the mack spinner on a layout like alpen fury.
Mack spinner on an Alpenfury layout might end up being the greatest coaster in the world.
There was a bit on the Alpen Fury tour where a PR person said Premier Rides was the only manufacturer able to commit to the tight timetable that the park needed.... I think they said 2-year turnaround, but it did make me think of the Ka replacement.
i really just hope its an actual full circuit coaster and not another shuttle, if for no other reason than having a decent payoff for the wait. i know ka was short but that was a one of a kind spectacle. they've got a huge chunk of land and i hope they dont blow it on a gimmick spinner.
Premier also makes a ton of sense from a tariffs point of view, but corporate might not have thought that far ahead.
Is premier manufacturing their track in the states now? Definitely a good thing to consider…
Regarding a shuttle for Ka’s replacement - I do think at this point capacity has been considered esp. knowing that cedar fair has its hands fully in this project unlike flash.
Does that rule out a shuttle? No… But does that rule out a transfer/spin table? Also no…
I think theres a lot more possibilities to what Ka’s replacement could be from what we've seen or speculated thus far but I am hopeful that the park WILL do the right thing and knock it out of the park…. No pun intended!
Regarding a shuttle for Ka’s replacement - I do think at this point capacity has been considered esp. knowing that cedar fair has its hands fully in this project unlike flash.
Does that rule out a shuttle? No… But does that rule out a transfer/spin table? Also no…
I think theres a lot more possibilities to what Ka’s replacement could be from what we've seen or speculated thus far but I am hopeful that the park WILL do the right thing and knock it out of the park…. No pun intended!
Olympic level jump to conclusions there, but yes, it would make logical sense for the reasons listed above
I mean, I hope its a mix between chiller & kingda ka just to mix the two missed coasters into a full circuit one
It should be a full circuit as a single track shuttle doesn't have the capacity as Flash is unfortunately proving.
If there's an incentive to reuse the ascent track as the descent track and save that material money they will do that. Even if it's a shuttle though I can guarantee that they would try to ensure two train capabilities.
Over the next coming months tracking on international shipments should pretty much confirm what manufacturer is involved…
Mack = int. shipments
Premier = no int. shipments
Mack = int. shipments
Premier = no int. shipments
My hope is that it’s either a giga (non shuttle) extreme spinner or Intamin blitz with a 500 ft spike
I’d be fine with North America Ride to Happiness but the shuttle is not preferable.
Yeah I daresay that this is a pretty reasonable assessment. There's no definitive reasoning to rule out Premier really asides from them not having done a potential 300-400 footer. Then again neither has Mack.
Premier has the added benefit of being domestic (trucking is cheaper than shipping) and just being available. The reason why they got the contract for AlpenFury was because Canada's Wonderland insisted that a major launch coaster be delivered within 2 years of sign off (why, I don't know), which promptly saw every other manufacturer pull out of bidding because they had waitlists. Historically this is INCREDIBLY RARE for headliner coaster developments being done from scratch, so Premier's involvement is definitely a one-off oddity. But yeah, to decide in the early Fall of 2024 (the Kingda Ka removal call was made by September 9, 2024) that they could hit up a next mega project after AlpenFury, that's doable for Premier.
HOWEVER, I still believe that Mack is more likely to get the contract because the Tower Coaster discussions with Cedar Fair's team far predated the merger's effects. Even before they could have slotted it in for SFGADV it is to my belief that Mack could've reserved a production slot with their factory for whatever the company wanted should they decide to pursue it. The same thing we know was happening with B&M, there was a Giga Dive originally proposed at Kings Island two years ago that the corporate bounced around at a couple different parks until the contract settled at Six Flags Over Texas. That call was made at the same as Kingda Ka/SGFADV 2026 and is running on the same timeline, but B&M knew well in advance to book a fabrication slot and material for a Giga Dive sized project.
Intamin on the other hand waitlists projects like hell and you will never see them develop and deliver a Kingda Ka sized project within ~2 years. They customize too much, they're too high in demand and have several large scale projects on the go worldwide. Had they begun discussions with Six Flags in mid 2024 we'd be closing in on 2028.
I've judged the surveys to be a timeline accurate look into what companies Six Flags/Cedar Fair was talking to and for what projects. If there was a rough Intamin concept being tossed around by April 2024 then perhaps I wouldn't rule it out.
I've seen and heard strong evidence of another Intamin project that's been in the cooker at Six Flags since pre-merger, the first time I saw the pitches was around mid-2023 and if it's still what I think it is it will be ready for 2027 at the earliest. Part of it also comes down to park management planning out their capital expenditure long term and deciding when is the best time to pull the trigger. But yeah that's how Intamin's work.
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