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I'm not mad. Simply observing the disconnect between Great Adventure and the people they intend to market to. Simultaneously I'm constantly told thoosies aren't a market that matters, and now they're the only people getting to see construction up close. Are they the only people who would care? I don't think so personally
Well here's the situation the park is in. Enthusiasts generally don't matter but they are a nice steady cash flow that parks can typically rely on year in and year out (they're also the ones who are more likely to buy the more premium passes). Ka's closure ruffled a lot of feathers so the park is definitely trying to get them back on board and being open about the construction is part of how they're doing that. The other big thing is that they aren't ready to announce the ride to the general public yet, right now they're relying on word of mouth which enthusiasts are also good for because us nerds can't shut up about these parks. I'm pretty sure all my friends know way to much about this ride thanks to me lmao.
 
Well here's the situation the park is in. Enthusiasts generally don't matter but they are a nice steady cash flow that parks can typically rely on year in and year out (they're also the ones who are more likely to buy the more premium passes). Ka's closure ruffled a lot of feathers so the park is definitely trying to get them back on board and being open about the construction is part of how they're doing that. The other big thing is that they aren't ready to announce the ride to the general public yet, right now they're relying on word of mouth which enthusiasts are also good for because us nerds can't shut up about these parks. I'm pretty sure all my friends know way to much about this ride thanks to me lmao.
That’s a great point! Coaster enthusiasts have been digging for info for almost two years already. With no former announcement yet, it definitely nice to see outreach to break up the waiting and rebuild relations with enthusiasts.
 
This thread is why my "what's new" tab is constantly over 50 posts and also slows down progress from getting to other threads....and 80% of the posts are nonsense.

I mean, if you're not interested in this project, you can just mark the thread read and move on. No one is making anyone read all the posts in this thread. If you're just coming here to see the latest photos, quickly scrolling down the page looking for photos doesn't see that difficult either? That VAST, VAST majority of the posts in this thread as of late have focused on this project if you ask me.

@Zachary, can we perhaps get this back on topic?

The marketing surrounding the coaster is just as much a part of the project as the ride hardware itself in my opinion. I love the consistent progress photos just as much as everyone else, but if the thread was just "[New Photos] [Everyone Claps Like Seals] [Loop]," I, personally, think that would get pretty boring pretty fast. I won't pretend to know exactly how to optimize discussion threads for the maximum enjoyment of the maximum number of readers, but I will say that, historically, allowing these discussions to zig and zag around all aspects of the project in question has returned seemingly-successful results.

I agree that anywhere the discussion starts dwelling on broad marketing/comms strategy, those conversations would be better housed in a theoretical SFGAdv "Marketing, Advertising, and Park Communications" thread, but as long as the ideas being shared are primarily focused around the discussion of this project, whether it be the construction, the marketing, the announcement, the theming, or whatever else, this is likely the best thread for it.
 
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That’s a great point! Coaster enthusiasts have been digging for info for almost two years already. With no former announcement yet, it definitely nice to see outreach to break up the waiting and rebuild relations with enthusiasts.

I mean I'd have been happier being able to FOIA the plans without obstruction years ago than I am getting drip fed info about how this coaster is even shorter and slower than expected (via influencers via Reddit) now, but I know somehow I'm in the minority. How the other coaster enthusiasts consider anything but a better coaster to be an "apology," I don't know
 
I mean I'd have been happier being able to FOIA the plans without obstruction years ago than I am getting drip fed info about how this coaster is even shorter and slower than expected (via influencers via Reddit) now, but I know somehow I'm in the minority. How the other coaster enthusiasts consider anything but a better coaster to be an "apology," I don't know
I really don't want to get into the "will this ride be better than ka" argument again because its just not very productive right now. But I think we should all give this ride at least some grace and actually ride it before we start arguing whether or not this is better than ka. I'm still in the camp that I think Ka will be the better ride but I said the same thing with dragster too. And while I myself haven't gotten to ride Top Thrill 2, 9 out of the 10 people I've talked to who have ridden both of those attractions actually prefer TT2. Who knows, we've never seen anything like this ever built before and anything is possible.
 
I mean, if you're not interested in this project, you can just mark the thread read and move on. No one is making anyone read all the posts in this thread. If you're just coming here to see the latest photos, quickly scrolling down the page looking for photos doesn't see that difficult either?
Sorry but this is a little off putting. Reads like "like what's going on or stay out".

I am interested in this project. I'm interested in the progress and discussions related to it. But having to read though pages of random complaints that build back and forth on nothing or something that won't happen does tend to get old. And given the number or people saying similar to me and liking posts that request this shows we're not alone.
The marketing surrounding the coaster is just as much a part of the project as the ride hardware itself in my opinion. I love the consistent progress photos just as much as everyone else, but if the thread was just "[New Photos] [Everyone Claps Like Seals] [Loop]," I, personally, think that would get pretty boring pretty fast.

I agree that anywhere the discussion starts dwelling on broad marketing/comms strategy, those conversations would be better housed in a theoretical SFGAdv "Marketing, Advertising, and Park Communications" thread, but as long as the discussion is primarily focused around the discussion of this project's marketing, this is almost certainly the thread for it.
We're not asking for a loop like that. I would love conversation about the ride to be more prevalent. Conversation around the updates is amazing.

More just the conversation of allowing pass holders to tour vs certain levels gets far away because IMO that's more about general marketing because that could be applied to any project and isn't about this alone. Because you say that the trend cycling the way of photos, applaud, loop would be boring; I find one user complains or compares to Ka, then 2-3 pages of retort just as boring as you would the other thing. I think there could be a middle ground where we acknowledge posts like that but then just move on, and that takes a lot of people doing that.
 
I really don't want to get into the "will this ride be better than ka" argument again because its just not very productive right now. But I think we should all give this ride at least some grace and actually ride it before we start arguing whether or not this is better than ka. I'm still in the camp that I think Ka will be the better ride but I said the same thing with dragster too. And while I myself haven't gotten to ride Top Thrill 2, 9 out of the 10 people I've talked to who have ridden both of those attractions actually prefer TT2. Who knows, we've never seen anything like this ever built before and anything is possible.

I agree with you about the "better or worse than Ka" question being silly until anyone rides it, but I do want to take this opportunity to clarify that, despite my previously-expressed and very-much-still-held distaste for the sub-strata height of Phantom Spire, I still fully anticipate the spinning shuttle giga to outrank Ka as I predicted back in November. I stick by everything I said then despite the reduction in our understanding of the coaster's height.
 
I mean I'd have been happier being able to FOIA the plans without obstruction years ago than I am getting drip fed info about how this coaster is even shorter and slower than expected (via influencers via Reddit) now, but I know somehow I'm in the minority. How the other coaster enthusiasts consider anything but a better coaster to be an "apology," I don't know

to be clear I wasn't comparing anything to Kingda Ka like some of you so desperately wish I were. I was comparing the current version of the capacity-limited two-element stall shuttle to the hypothesized version that was over 400 feet or even the version that took the North American height record. I think more should be read into the reluctance to add 46 feet, and less should be read into the "access" represented in the deliberately slow release of information via thoosietube, because only one of those decisions *could* have a tangible impact on the success of the ride, in my opinion. Am I going to enjoy getting my information fourth hand from a random teenager? No, but I don't think the impact of anti-influencer thoosies (me and maybe 1 other person) is likely to be large.
 
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to be clear I wasn't comparing anything to Kingda Ka like some of you so desperately wish I were. I was comparing the current version of the capacity-limited two-element stall shuttle to the hypothesized version that was over 400 feet or even the version that took the North American height record. I think more should be read into the reluctance to add 46 feet, and less should be read into the "access" represented in the deliberately slow release of information via thoosietube, because only one of those decisions *could* have a tangible impact on the success of the ride, in my opinion.

I agree with you, but the decision to short-change SFGAdv yet again was made and finalized under previous leadership. Though I do think it's super fair to criticize the park/corporation for that decision (as I have done!), I don't know how profitable or useful it is to dwell on these failures when that previous leadership structure has already been replaced due to their abject failure to successfully run the chain. Thus far, the new blood seems to be signaling all the right things and, though results of their leadership have yet to materialize beyond some entertainment and culinary adjustments, things DO appear to be moving in a good direction since the shakeup.
 
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I actually just did my own deep analysis of project 2027 and I discovered some amazing things. Im very happy to say this 2027 project is in fact a rollercoaster and it will in fact be purple in color.

*northdetective voice* purple is disgusting and visitors will scared away by Six Flags' signaling that they only cater to the wealthy or otherwise anybody who can bring their own predatory sea snails in the family Muricidae to repair the damage that the weight of their bodies does on the paint
 
Looks like a short run between the end of the stall into the tower. I'm curious to see the arrangement of this. If it is the three point tower, then i think it will have more twist to it.
This is what we've got now. The two outer footers look like the same width of the threesome, but they appear to be a foot or two taller since they needed ladders to put the bolts on. I suppose it's possible there are more footers to pour out at the end, but I can't imagine why they wouldn't have already since they're nearly at the tower with the track and support installation. It's an interesting stance for tower supports if this is all the footers.

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