That’s due to it having been cycled prior to the start of the season before the ride went and shat itself. They’re using the theming as an cover for the ride being extremely broken.
Project 2025/305: Pantherian (Intimidator 305 Retheme)
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Idk if i would consider a tough time getting going since it is just waiting in a part. Not like it runs and break like Melinieum
I remember years ago it was down for like a whole season because of the cable part or someshit. Probably the same thing. Kinda crazy how hard it seems to get a part that many many rides still infact use. How many major coaster cable lifts are out there? Unless i305 needed some special 1 of 1 part for itself
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Why can’t they ever just be fucking transparent about what’s happening instead of lying to their fanbase?
EDIT: if this thing ain’t open by my big coaster roadtrip in July, I’m just gonna skip kd and go straight to SFA. It’s just not worth it.
Who's lying to you? They said it will open this summer, you ain't entitled to jack shit other than that.
Why can’t they ever just be fucking transparent about what’s happening instead of lying to their fanbase?
EDIT: if this thing ain’t open by my big coaster roadtrip in July, I’m just gonna skip kd and go straight to SFA. It’s just not worth it.
Who's lying to you? They said it will open this summer, you ain't entitled to jack shit other than that.
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This is exactly why they aren't transparent.
They don’t owe us an explanation for every, or really extended closure, MAYBE save for something like Shellraiser where they keep claiming it’s reopening in a month and have been pushing that month back for a year and a half. The fact that we’ve been given a timeframe for reopening is more than most parks will do, El Toro has been down for nearly two full seasons in recent years with minimal communication.
Son of Beast sat SBNO for over 3 years before it was unceremoniously demolished. Montezooma has been a shitshow for 3 years with the most said being “reopening in 2022…23…24…25?” A ride being closed for a few months sucks, but it is by no means a situation in which the park is obliged to tell us anything.
Son of Beast sat SBNO for over 3 years before it was unceremoniously demolished. Montezooma has been a shitshow for 3 years with the most said being “reopening in 2022…23…24…25?” A ride being closed for a few months sucks, but it is by no means a situation in which the park is obliged to tell us anything.
Even communication that’s as simple and minimal as “Due to unexpected supply chain issues Ride X will remain closed for the time being.”
The reason for a ride's closure doesn't make any difference to guests. As long as the existence of the closure is clearly communicated and a reopening estimate is kept up-to-date, demanding anything further seems unreasonable.
I don't think asking for further information is unreasonable, but expecting a response probably is.
To a degree I agree that it should be communicated, up to date, and all of that.
They don’t need to be 100% transparent about what is causing it, but they are being misleading at best.
I'd like to further add that just because these parks have historically provided little to no information on these matters, that doesn't mean that it's the right course of action to take in this age of instant gratification. Parks might need to shift their thinking on this.
Like I said, a simple “Due to supply chain issues opening has been delayed” works.
I custom order things for people all the time. I cannot get away with not giving some reasoning as to why their product (which is normally in our hands 10-14 days after ordering) is delayed. I don’t typically give details, I just tend to say there’s a back order, how would you like to proceed. I don’t need to give all the details.
I guess that’s why I feel a simple statement that doesn’t get specific, yet shines a light on the fact that it’s not them purposely doing this suffices. For interest I went to Reddit to see what the buzz there is and I saw the following reasons for it still being closed: theme work, catch car broken, cable, in house made part damaged the ride, motor busted, and someone said it’s always been a dangerous ride and this will be the excuse to take it down. To me that’s the downside of not saying anything, is now theories run wild and next thing you know there’s a ton of factually wrong rumors around.
Even if, for the sake of the discussion, I were to grant you that the park is intentionally misleading consumers regarding the reason for the closure (I'm not convinced of that for the record), I still wouldn't think it consequencial. Obviously if the park is lying to guests I would be opposed to that but, on the flip side of that coin, if the lie doesn't serve to change the guest expectation or experience in any way (read: the ride is announced as closed for x time), I just don't think it's an enormous deal. Bad behavior? Yes. Substantively problematic? No.
This is part of the reason parks often don't give reasons, for the record. The reason for a closure frequently changes and evolves and if a park claims one reason and then that reason changes, they're now on the hook for providing that new reason as well—and that can sometimes be a pretty big ask depending on what that reason is.
Sure, maybe your supply chain thing is true now, but if they post that info to the website, the part arrives, is installed, and testing begins only to have the lift cable explode three days in, the park certainly does not want to have to communicate that to guests. Even just a notice shifting from "supply chain delays" to "unexpected maintenance requirements" becomes a negative news item for the park. Why would they volunteer for that when, again, the reason doesn't make any difference to guests as long as the outcome is the same, the closure is communicated, and the estimated return window is kept up to date.
This is part of the reason parks often don't give reasons, for the record. The reason for a closure frequently changes and evolves and if a park claims one reason and then that reason changes, they're now on the hook for providing that new reason as well—and that can sometimes be a pretty big ask depending on what that reason is.
Sure, maybe your supply chain thing is true now, but if they post that info to the website, the part arrives, is installed, and testing begins only to have the lift cable explode three days in, the park certainly does not want to have to communicate that to guests. Even just a notice shifting from "supply chain delays" to "unexpected maintenance requirements" becomes a negative news item for the park. Why would they volunteer for that when, again, the reason doesn't make any difference to guests as long as the outcome is the same, the closure is communicated, and the estimated return window is kept up to date.
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This is so spot on. Any change to status or reason for lengthening a ride's closure - would lead to more questions, complaining, frustration, etc.
Just because you want something doesn't mean that the park owes it to you. Is 'age of instant gratification' a synonym for 'age of entitlement'?
On the flip side, let’s say the part they are waiting for doesn’t come until July - are they going to continue to push that they are ‘themeing’ the ride halfway through their operating season? Or will they shift to “Opening 2026”? Or just not say anything?
It's my opinion that the parks don't really need any explanation as to why a ride is down if its for maintenance reasons. Often, as stated before, the reasons are highly technical and changing often. To 99% of the people out there, they don't care, the ride is down, which means they can't ride it. In addition, giving out too much information often can be a bad thing as the public does not have the technical expertise to interpret whether a problem is a big deal or not and can often cause more issues than good.
I didn't say they owe anything. I said it may be in their best interests. People are no longer willing to accept vagueness as an explanation.
All the website says is "This attraction will open summer 2025."
I was there today for the Engineering Day and got to go on the behind the scenes tour of Rapterra. While they were open for questions, I asked about Pantherian's closure. The guy who led the tour said he had no knowledge of any issues, and that he can neither confirm nor deny that it was down for repairs.
July for 3 weeks then closed the rest of the year.
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