Project 2022: Tumbili, Reptilian, Arachnidia, & Jungle X-Pedition

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Wait, I thought only BGW had issues like this?

And no I'm not being sarcastic. I rather wait an extra year like we did for Pantheon knowing that there were staffing issues with both completing and running the park than get an early preview day of something that's incomplete.
 
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I think the most confusing thing about all of this is that Mother Nature gave them an easy excuse to postpone the media event and opening. There was no reason at all for the park to open on Saturday with the low the temperatures and snow.

I simply can’t wrap my head around their not taking advantage of the extra week to get the area set up and conduct more training on Tumbili.
 
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Kings Dominion Fanatics is sharing this YouTube video of drone footage if Tumbili running. According to their post it was shot and provided to them by the park so there are no issues in that regard.

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cschnizer said:
Watching the seats flip is one of the most satisfying things ever. Watching them dawdle on the trims is the opposite.
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I wonder if there's something stopping them from putting the "spin fins" on the areas of the track that are trimmed? Those slower portions would be a lot more fun on-ride if there was some rotation happening. Same thought with the lowest "out" portion of the layout—the seats rarely seem to be doing anything interesting on that section of the track all the way through to the ride's end. Tumbili's length would be easier to swallow if it was doing something with every inch of track there is, you know?
 
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I wonder if there's something stopping them from putting the "spin fins" on the areas of the track that are trimmed so dramatically? Those slower portion would be a lot more fun on-ride if there was some rotation happening. Same thought with the lowest "out" portion of the layout—the seats rarely seem to be doing anything interesting on that section of the track all the way through to the ride's end. Tumbili's length would be easier to swallow if it was doing something with every inch of track there is, you know?
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I wish there was one more set of the flip fins placed on that final raven dive, preferrably at the top to get some nice flipping going as you enter the brakes.
 
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I don't think I'll ever get over the fact that the flips don't have much to do with physics and instead are triggered by fins. It's for some reason hugely disappointing to me. Though I can't really say why. I guess because it feels like a fake-out.

Do X2 and related coasters use fins like this too, or are the flips 100% legit on that?

Anyway, probably doesn't matter. This ride is likely to make me feel sick and it will be one and done. lol.
 
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Crunchewy said:
I don't think I'll ever get over the fact that the flips don't have much to do with physics and instead are triggered by fins. It's for some reason hugely disappointing to me. Though I can't really say why. I guess because it feels like a fake-out.

Do X2 and related coasters use fins like this too, or are the flips 100% legit on that?

Anyway, probably doesn't matter. This ride is likely to make me feel sick and it will be one and done. lol.
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X2 has a second set of rails to control the spinning. The fins would seem to have more randomness around the physics and weight distribution of the train.
 
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Crunchewy said:
I don't think I'll ever get over the fact that the flips don't have much to do with physics and instead are triggered by fins. It's for some reason hugely disappointing to me. Though I can't really say why. I guess because it feels like a fake-out.

Do X2 and related coasters use fins like this too, or are the flips 100% legit on that?

Anyway, probably doesn't matter. This ride is likely to make me feel sick and it will be one and done. lol.
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There's still plenty of physics involved. The fins are basically just magnets that knock the cars off kilter and further induce spinning. The cars are still fully free-spinning and the design of the layout is still conducive to spinning; the fins just amplify the effect and make it more likely that every seat is guaranteed to flip. They're not "fake" flips by any means. Without the fins though, I don't know how you expect that the cars would become off-balance enough to achieve the momentum needed to flip on their own, all the time.

X2 is actually way more controlled, probably in more of the way you're envisioning the free spins are. Someone else can probably explain much better than I can, but X2's track is mounted with a second pair of "rotation rails" that the cars run along. These rails exist solely to control the car's spins, and they control that movement throughout the ride. So whereas the free spins really do spin freely, with an added kick from the fins, X2's spinning is controlled throughout the ride.
 
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The cars on x2 have a rack and pinion system. A second set of rails between the main rails move up and down in relation to the main rails over the course. This causes the rack to move up and down and cause rotation in the pinion that causes the seats to spin. The whole thing is entirely controlled but a bit jerky due to the slop in the system nessesary to allow it to run over the rails smoothly.
 
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Zachary said:
It's a neat angle on the ride, but I can't help but feel that a better drone operator and some basic video editing could have turned off-ride drone footage of this coaster into something super special.
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I highly agree where a better drone operator could do something truly special... where similar to the following Valleyfair drone shot, imagine the video starting by closely following the Tumbili train car as it navigates down the track; then flying over a Reptilian train doing the same; and finally ending at Arachnidia as it spins.

Again it would take a skilled drone operator. But if KD really wanted to hype this seasons three new/upgraded attractions, to me, that would make a great video.

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Mushroom said:
There's still plenty of physics involved. The fins are basically just magnets that knock the cars off kilter and further induce spinning. The cars are still fully free-spinning and the design of the layout is still conducive to spinning; the fins just amplify the effect and make it more likely that every seat is guaranteed to flip. They're not "fake" flips by any means. Without the fins though, I don't know how you expect that the cars would become off-balance enough to achieve the momentum needed to flip on their own, all the time.
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This. The cars can flip without fins and they can also fail to flip with the fins..... The fins just create a situation that's favorable to flipping. This is also why you'll see some version of the ride have the same amount of fins but just in different locations..... if you have a certain area that gets closer to flipping without fins and you had a fin there then that increases the intensity where the same fin just 15ft before that location wouldn't be nearly as much fun.

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I wonder if there's something stopping them from putting the "spin fins" on the areas of the track that are trimmed? Those slower portions would be a lot more fun on-ride if there was some rotation happening. Same thought with the lowest "out" portion of the layout—the seats rarely seem to be doing anything interesting on that section of the track all the way through to the ride's end. Tumbili's length would be easier to swallow if it was doing something with every inch of track there is, you know?
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I don't know if it would really work that way..... My assumption is that when the car is moving slower it's harder to flip even with a fin because of the lack of momentum.

When the cars rock on the lift hill that's literally just hitting the same type of fin. I'm curious if maybe a very long fin would induce a full rotation but I am not sure if it works in this way or not.
 
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Naive question, maybe, but in the video I couldn't tell what is being referred to as fins. Should I be looking at the track, or the trains?
 
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Jonesta6 said:
Naive question, maybe, but in the video I couldn't tell what is being referred to as fins. Should I be looking at the track, or the trains?
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This pov should help clear things up- but watch the track. You’ll see the fins.
Tumbili POV

And this freespin is in Japan- but this video focuses a lot on the flipping mechanism. You can see the flipping getting activated with the fins. This one is called Arashi, over at Nagashima Spa Land.

Arashi Nagashima Spa Land
 
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belsaas said:
Oh man, those future temple hints are going to cause so much speculation around here, and I'm very excited for it :p

I'm thinking Flight of Fear must be the feline temple, while I305 is the Hawk temple. Obviously Anaconda is Anaconda.

I also love the shout out to the Dooz Caves!
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Wrong. According to sources, Anaconda is Anaconda, Panther/House Cat/Tiger is a BLSC retheme, and Bird/Avian/Hawk is the new hyper wing launched coaster to replace Volcano.
 
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Wrong. According to sources, Anaconda is Anaconda, Panther/House Cat/Tiger is a BLSC retheme, and Bird/Avian/Hawk is the new hyper wing launched coaster to replace Volcano.
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And what sources are those?

If you cannot publicly disclose, the option to go to a trusted moderator such as @Zachary or @Nicole in private exists so they can vet/vouch the accuracy of your claim.

Otherwise, your claim is just as valid as any other guesses made.
 
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