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If 76 is the accurate top speed then I think 185 top hat and 210-215 drop is fairly reasonable, assuming you want to go over with some speed
 
basseyfish said:
I know its a different ride but hypersonic was 80mph and the top hat was 190
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Hypersonic the top advertised speed was the launch and you got whipped over the top hat. And as was said by madmax it was a factor as to why that ride basically ripped itself apart
 
warfelg said:
So in danger of reigniting this debate, I've been doing some math on me own, and trying to reconcile some of the data, and I've come to 3 solutions to the data that is being speculated on:
1) 76 MPH was a target speed and not actually the speed this will reach. With a 159 foot top hat and a 190 foot drop, the top speed is really going to be about 70-72 MPH. This is assuming that when the train crests the top hat it's basically going to stall.

2) 76 MPH was a targets speed and is going to be the speed that this reaches. With a 159 foot top hat and a 190 foot drop. In this case the train is going to be cresting the hill will a decent amount of momentum. I'm not 100% certain of the cresting speed, but if my math is correct it's about 8-12 MPH.

3). 76 MPH was a target speed and is the speed that it's going to reach. Only in this case, they are still being vague with the height measures. This one takes a bit of geography trickery, so stick with me here:
The lowest elevation in BGW is at the bottom of the river, and is roughly about 20-35 feet below the river level (this is hard to know for sure as there could be sediment at the bottom changing the level). They could be using that elevation to play with these numbers a bit, and this changes the overall height of the spike, top hat, and drop length to fit the potential top speed some. If we use a rough estimation of 30 feet to the bottom of the river, that can push the spike to 209 feet, the topcoat to 189, and the drop to 220 feet. Those numbers relate well to a train barely cresting the top hat and hitting 76 MPH. I think this is the one option that we haven't thought of in terms of what these numbers could all be relating to.
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Thanks for laying this all out warfelg. I was attempting to do this math but physics was never my strong suit.

The other option that I've been thinking of is that the height they are referring to is in relation to where the ride starts. The queue house is sitting at higher elevation and it appears that you board about 15-20 feet above the ground. Someone who is better than me at reading topography maps could confirm this. The site plan of the queue house shows that it is elevated above the ground. So basically the elevation of these elements x above the starting height. Does anyone else think that is plausible?

I also personally believe that if the speed in the leaked slide is accurate it refers to the top launch speed and not the speed of the drop. With a launch coaster no one discusses the speed of anything other than the launches. A few examples of rides having faster drops than launches has been shared on this thread before by b.mac I believe (I looked for the post but have to after going through about 10 pages). The leaked slide also never provides no information on that bullet point. It literally just says 76 MPH.
 
If the launch speed is 76 then that speed at the bottom may reach 80 lol (depending on the height)
 
Ya know.. It's fun to guess. Heck, back when the balloon first took flight this was gonna be a StarFlyer according to this thread.

I'm at a point now, I don't care how fast it is, how tall it'll be, how accurate the slide is, what God it'll be named after, why there isn't an MMXX pin... Welp, I'm tired....

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Also a slight thing, because I see a lot of wanting to make this a water god themed ride:

Ancient Italians actually feared the seas and the destruction they brought. Willingly theming elements after water in Italian areas is historically insensitive, but we got Vikings fighting French in Canada so I'm not confident in their commitment to avoiding that.
 
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Well, my bubble was burst when @Zachary posted the color pallet. My idea was the swift Mercury. But, according to Disney, Mercury is blue.

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So I'm waiting for BGW to drum up some story about gladiators battling something or Ben Hurl-ing down the track or other historical mumbo-jumbo.
 
madmax said:
If the launch speed is 76 then that speed at the bottom may reach 80 lol (depending on the height)
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madmax said:
I don’t think 76 is the launch speed

Unless they have the holding brake
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I really fail to see why you think that is so impossible. There have been examples given in this thread of rides where the top speed is higher than the launch speed and they only advertise what the launch speed is. Maybe provide some evidence or arguments instead of your normal it's not my opinion so it's wrong stance
 
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warfelg said:
Also a slight thing, because I see a lot of wanting to make this a water god themed ride:

Ancient Italians actually feared the seas and the destruction they brought. Willingly theming elements after water in Italian areas is historically insensitive, but we got Vikings fighting French in Canada so I'm not confident in their commitment to avoiding that.
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I was in favor of a Neptune theme that plays on the fear and the volatility of the seas with the middle launch section. It would basically be can you escape that destructive force and survive. I don't agree that it would be historically insensitive if done that way.

Either way I think that's moot at this point.
 
GrandpaD said:
Well, my bubble was burst when @Zachary posted the color pallet. My idea was the swift Mercury. But, according to Disney, Mercury is blue.

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So I'm waiting for BGW to drum up some story about gladiators battling something or Ben Hurl-ing down the track or other historical mumbo-jumbo.
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Mercury and Apollo were 2 versions of the same god.
 
I think given the color pallet, if I were naming it after an Italian god or legend, the following are my choices given the color template:
Juno, patron godess of Rome, the queen of all gods. Honestly I would have liked to seen a giga with that name.
Mars, the god of war and aggression. If this is an aggressive ride it fits.
Vulcan, God of fire, volcanos, and weapons.
Befana, a female version of Santa Claus.

And I saved my favorite for last:
The Lariosauro
This is the Italian legend of the Loch Ness Monster. And I like it. The color scheme is similar to Nessie. Like Nessie there's two main "acceleration"/drops, 2 inversions, 2 trains, 2 passes over/past the river....yea I love this.
 
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