Project 2022: Pantheon
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Unless they're not using the full 315 foot waiver (or the 315 foot waiver is for a StarFlyer tucked in there), I'm now very worried about only 76 MPH. At least it'll be a more powerful drop into the water than the half-hearted jerk Verbolten offers. BGW sure wants to challenge KD for the title of launch coaster capital, do they?
At this point, I'm more excited for San Antonio's addition in that list.First wooden coaster in the area since Rattler got RMC'd. For some reason I thought ZDT's was Houston area. Apparently it's San Antonio area.
At this point, I'm more excited for San Antonio's addition in that list.
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God so help me this is basically the last thing in the entire world they need. Tempesto has shuttle aspects of it going backwards, then forward again. They have 2 launch coasters. I just can’t see busch make this poor of a choice. If lum was still around, I wouldn’t completely rule it out, but I don’t see him anywhere.
Well if they really opt to build a giga shuttle coaster I am disappointed as well and may drop our Busch Gardens visit in 2020 in favor for another park......
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I swear I've read this article backwards and forwards about 5 times and it makes no sense. 300 foot tall multi-launch shuttle coaster?
Because just breaking down some of the math things here:
~A drop height of 185-190 can get you to 76 MPH. So why file for up to 300+ Feet if you wouldn't need all that height? Unless as someone suggested they do a combined attraction here, or the 300 ft part includes a drop tower like Kinda Ka now does.
~Most coasters that top 300 feet reach mid-90's in speed.
~Where I'm really confused is shuttle coasters don't make full loops, so how is the final drop into the Rhine and 76 MPH....theoretically shouldn't that be the 1st drop too?
~Final drop is where the high speed is? So that makes a 2nd ride and the 3rd time BGW is going to do this? (BBW, Bolt)
~Sounds like a real low capacity monster. For a park with a few low capacity rides already, that sounds like a terrible idea.
I think the wording of final drop while describing it as a shuttle coaster; and the peak speed with the height; are the things that don't matchup to me.
I dunno, @Zachary I know you can't share what you saw, but maybe if you can clarify some of those things.
Because just breaking down some of the math things here:
~A drop height of 185-190 can get you to 76 MPH. So why file for up to 300+ Feet if you wouldn't need all that height? Unless as someone suggested they do a combined attraction here, or the 300 ft part includes a drop tower like Kinda Ka now does.
~Most coasters that top 300 feet reach mid-90's in speed.
~Where I'm really confused is shuttle coasters don't make full loops, so how is the final drop into the Rhine and 76 MPH....theoretically shouldn't that be the 1st drop too?
~Final drop is where the high speed is? So that makes a 2nd ride and the 3rd time BGW is going to do this? (BBW, Bolt)
~Sounds like a real low capacity monster. For a park with a few low capacity rides already, that sounds like a terrible idea.
I think the wording of final drop while describing it as a shuttle coaster; and the peak speed with the height; are the things that don't matchup to me.
I dunno, @Zachary I know you can't share what you saw, but maybe if you can clarify some of those things.
WildGravityTravels told me that they are planning a follow-up post focused solely on BGW's 2020 project with a little more information. Until that article comes out, I can't elaborate.
As I read on /r/rollercoaster Intamin's "Soaring With Dragon" closely resembles some aspects in the newest leak. It's not as tall as the 300ft and triple launched vs the dual launched but speed is close to the leaked info. Perhaps, they've moved on from their original plans and aren't going as tall. And the rumor of Intamin being the builder returns.
It’s 180 something. And how do you build a coaster over 100 feet less than the height permit? Busch has never done that.
My bad I was thinking of the loop. But there’s no way this is less than 200 feet yet they filed for 315.
You technically can do that if you choose. Just because you file for a waiver doesn't mean you have to use it.
But additionally, I'll do some digging (REALLY slow day at work, people don't like golfing in a hurricane) but on the cover sheet this it's still listed as:
Which reflects the same as the height waiver. I'll make sure that's the case, but as far as I'm aware in my digging this is still tied.
That said, I'm willing to give it up to a week or so for WildGravityTravels to expand on what they said. This definitely needs some clarification IMO.
But really an actual shuttle coaster is the dumbest addition they could make when they have Tempesto and need something with high capacity.
My 2020 plans are all riding on what Project Madrid turns out to be, and what Hersheypark, Cedar Point, and Kings Island are building for 2020. If Project Madrid turns out to be a "Full Throttle" - gimmick launch coaster with a short experience and low capacity, it'll take free beer for me to get a BGW membership for 2020 - otherwise my big trip will be Pennsylvania and Ohio, not Florida.
I hope the "shuttle" part of it means a "Soaring with Dragon" launch, and then the rest of the ride is more like Maverick in using the terrain and giving a full experience.
He's being conservative saying "300-ft plus" in this video.
He's aiming for tall. I mean really tall!
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