While I agree, I wouldn’t want to be the park that goes that tall with a new track. At least without at least 1 built already.
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While I agree, I wouldn’t want to be the park that goes that tall with a new track. At least without at least 1 built already.
I wouldn't mind not hitting that height if it's otherwise a full experience. Maverick doesn't even make it to 100 ft high.
In the event we are stuck with a Full Throttle, if Hersheypark and Kings Island are going with B&M Hypers that don't even use the terrain well (cough Intrimidator), and Cedar Point doesn't do "20 for 20", that'll tip me back in favor of Florida, with Pittsburgh as my Memorial Day trip.
I pray to god it’s not some gimmick coaster. Full Throttle looks awful with its drop that is slowed halfway down
I'm not as knowledgeable of roller coaster design as many of you. But looking at various coasters and what @SLC Headache mentioned I'm wondering about a "hybrid" of Superman Escape from Krypton and Soaring with Dragon.
Superman is 415ft and hits 104mph. So (my limited knowledge exposed) could "Madrid" go 100ft less and hit 76mph? I'm wondering if the footers near San Marco be for the "tower". It launches backwards. Then, coming down the tower (using Intamin's switch track) it gets a second launch boost and does that large non-inverted loop like "Dragon" and then terrain follows with that drop to the river in the other footers.
I am probably way off but ain't it fun to guess?
You’re way off. 100 ft less would be like 90 mph or so. 76 mph would be like a 200 foot tower at most.
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Full Throttle felt like half a ride. At least with other short launch coasters like Xcelerator / Dragster / Ka (and soon Maxx Force), the explosive launch alone is enough to carry the ride experience. Full Throttle's launch wasn't strong enough to carry the ride alone. It really is a giant Tempesto (minus the infernal Comfort Collars).
You need far less speed to just get the highest part of a train to the top of a spike, than to get the train to clear a hill that high. Dragster needs 120 MPH to reliably clear its 420ft top hat.
Looking at another shuttle coaster in the Six Flags chain, Mr. Freeze has a 70 MPH launch, and the spike is 218 ft. Granted, the train's probably bled off a lot of speed going through the course.
76 MPH / 315ft would probably involve a long train, and the top speed achieved going backwards to get up through that spike.
Eh, just a guess. Not a very educated one.
...Thinking about it, maybe 76 MPH / 315 ft isn't so realistic. Wicked Twister, another shuttle coaster - with a pretty long train - hits 72 MPH and only reaches 215 ft.
Skyrush reaches 76 with a 210 foot drop, hell, Storm Runner reaches 75 with a 180 foot drop.
I don’t know where he got the speed from.
I mean there are other designs out there. We don't necessarily need to be looking at a 300 foot tall drop. Could be something much more gradual featuring a lot of inversions. Almost like filling the void DF never filled
Comparing the speed resulting from a traditional drop vs the speed needed to get to the top of a vertical spike is like comparing apples to oranges.
76 isn’t enough for getting up around 300 feet on a spike either.
Also I would be disappointed in a spike regardless. Not gonna give much airtime.
Technically 1 mph of continuous speed is enough to climb a vertical spike. There are so many variables we can't just assume they can only launch something up a spike. Could be continuous propulsion up the spike.
Maybe he means the first launch is 76 and it accelerates up a top hat later ?
But the report says the final drop is the one that swoops by the river reaching 76mph.
I think you guys are kinda focusing on the wrong flaw in logic. If it’s gonna be a launch with a spike, it’s gonna be hard for its top speed to come at the bottom of a drop at 76 mph. There’s either a gap in logic, a major part missing, or something is misreported.
Thanks for the knowledge gents. I guess I was off a bit. I saw the stats of Superman. While the tower is 415ft, the wiki says the drop is 328ft. And the videos don't show it going to the very top. So I wasn't sure how they calculated that.
I was envisioning Dragon without the initial forward boost. Basically a boost backwards up the spike then another through the station, the big loop and then terrain follow.
Anyway, thanks for knowledge.
I was envisioning Dragon without the initial forward boost. Basically a boost backwards up the spike then another through the station, the big loop and then terrain follow.
Anyway, thanks for knowledge.
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