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RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

Zachary said:
madmax said:
AIR said:
Could they be doing something else to Festhaus Park that's not a roller coaster? A permanent concert theater?

No because the theater isn’t 315 feet tall.

The answer is yes, they very well could be.

We honestly don't have any real data to say that the soil tests on either side of the Rhine are connected other than the fact that they are occurring around the same time.

A permit was filed for a 315 ft tall attraction. If it’s not a coaster it’s not a theater either.

Joe said:
I personally hope this is not a coaster. That gorgeous view of the railroad trestle crossing the Rhine is my favorite view in the entire park, and to imagine such a serene image marred with hunks of steel track buzzing with coaster trains saddens me.

Many signs point to Project Madrid being a coaster, sure, and (in the short term, at least) giant new coasters pull in more revenue than pretty shots of bridges. But in the opinion of this fan, sacrificing a signature piece of the park's beauty for another scream machine just takes away one more thing that makes Busch Gardens so special.

The park intergrates their coasters very well. I think it will look fine.
 
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They applied for a 315 foot structure in Festa Field.

Right now, we are lumping all of the site work together assuming it is for a single project. We have no proof that is the case though. We'd do well to keep that possibility in mind.

I will be updating the Project Madrid page on BGWFans to reflect this as well.
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

metalman said:
Some might see it as replacing one signature piece of beauty for a new one.

Or, a step to the future... Madrid, today, is an attraction. Tomorrow, it may be a hamlet, and after that maybe two. Certainly there's a master plan somewhere that considers possibilities for expansion in both Festa Field and Festhaus Park. And if you have two hamlets there, you may find need of a new pedestrian bridge closer to the train trestle. Imagine the views from there, both up and down the Rhine...
 
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RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

Zachary said:
They applied for a 315 foot structure in Festa Field.

Right now, we are lumping all of the site work together assuming it is for a single project. We have no proof that is the case though. We'd do well to keep that possibility in mind.

I will be updating the Project Madrid page on BGWFans to reflect this as well.

Considering it’s proximity to the Rhine it might limit the possibilities.
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

madmax said:
AIR said:
Could they be doing something else to Festhaus Park that's not a roller coaster? A permanent concert theater?

No because the theater isn’t 315 feet tall.
Youbare assuming that the work in Festhaus park is related to the height waver. It is possible if unlikely that they could build a 315 tower ride in the field and something else in the park.
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

madmax said:
Zachary said:
They applied for a 315 foot structure in Festa Field.

Right now, we are lumping all of the site work together assuming it is for a single project. We have no proof that is the case though. We'd do well to keep that possibility in mind.

I will be updating the Project Madrid page on BGWFans to reflect this as well.

Considering it’s proximity to the Rhine it might limit the possibilities.

Are you trolling? Because you seem to be ignoring others people's points.
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

Every 2-4 hours I change my mind on all of this being related and unrelated. It's a tough battle, because in everything I've looked at this area effected is huge and bigger than almost every coaster I have measured the area of. So I tend to sit there and say to myself that there's little change of it being related.

Then on the other hand, I look at how spread out these rides are and the distance that they go and measure out that aspect, and the effected area comes closer to that set of measurements. But again still way too big of an area.

So my official thinking is yes if this is a coaster it's going to have an impact on both sides of the river, but at the same time, I still think much of this work is about more than the single Project Madrid attraction and is about the next 10 years of the park and possibly expanding.

Between reading that page Zachary put together, and going back a bit and reading about the LeScoot refurb, I'm gaining the feeling that this is all in an effort to be able to add to the park without having to make the tough decision to take away another classic ride to make way for something new.
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

What if they use dark kastle as the station, and the lift hill goes over oktoberfest and the Rhine to the highest point?
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

The lift will be comprised of a refurbished Festhaus bandstand-in-the-round, which will sit in Festa Field and slowly elevate the coaster train plus a full Bavarian festival band to an altitude of 315 feet during each ride cycle.  Chicken dancers will frolic under the bandstand until it returns to Earth.  A full up-and-down cycle will take approximately 45 minutes, limiting capacity to just a bit above that of Tempesto.

As a serious question though, does all of the info that has been confirmed thus far dovetail with the supposed Intamin plans that were posted here last month?  It seems we don't talk about those, but did the posted plans show  a peak of some kind in the same approximate location BGW has indicated in its submissions to JCC?
 
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

halfabee said:
...does all of the info that has been confirmed thus far dovetail with the supposed Intamin plans that were posted here last month? It seems we don't talk about those...

I never saw them, so I can't talk about them...and didn't know there was any connection to Intamin in them.

My assumption is they were fake, or we would have some hints that there was more to share once it was safe to do so.
 
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None of the images posted actually contained anything at all that would even hint at the existence of a ride layout. Contour lines and text that included the word "Intamin" are just about all that was visible. Anything of any value was intentionally hidden (assuming it was there at all... which, honestly, is probably a pretty unsafe assumption).
 
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Got it -- thanks Zachary.  

I've uncovered a similarly revealing image suggesting bombshell news when the manufacturer is finally revealed...

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RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

Zachary said:
None of the images posted actually contained anything at all that would even hint at the existence of a ride layout. Contour lines and text that included the word "Intamin" are just about all that was visible. Anything of any value was intentionally hidden (assuming it was there at all... which, honestly, is probably a pretty unsafe assumption).
I do not quite trust the picture with the intamin logo and words on it. It could easily be a fake i say this because we saw the "leaked plans" for the SFFT Wooden Coaster turn out to be fake.
 
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Well, if all that was showing was "Intamin," some contours, and some vagaries that implied it could be a coaster plan--but far short of revealing any ride layout...that sounds quite easy to fake.

Sure, it may have been legit with everything obscured, but if you obscure things to the point where people wonder whether there really was anything else to begin with, you lost a bit of credibility that you had the layout in the first place. You've just risked your neck by sharing something without the "benefit" of knowing the community views you as having scooped the real plans.

Possible. But probably more likely they weren't legit to start with.
 
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Does anyone have a link to the leaked “Intamin plan”?
 
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No link a few people have pictures but nothing is shown. Literally some pictures that have the Busch gardens logo the Intamin logo and some covered up blueprints.
 
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RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?

madmax said:
Does anyone have a link to the leaked “Intamin plan”?

I'm sure there are people who do, but it would be very irresponsible for anyone to share them on the ever so slight off-chance that they are real. Whoever took the pictures did the world's worst job of concealing their identity (another huge red flag that they're almost certainly fake, but I digress).

Really though, you people aren't missing anything, I swear. The most interesting thing visible was the Nintendo Switch that the "leaker"/faker used to cover over the supposedly important parts.

Food for thought: Someone walks up to you on the street carrying a briefcase. He tells you that there is a live baby dinosaur inside said briefcase. You ask if you can peak inside. You are denied. You ask if you can put your ear to the briefcase to hear if something is moving. You're again denied. This man now tells you that the sky is purple and that "supports piles have been built" in your backyard for a new roller coaster. You objectively know those two statements are wildly inaccurate. Do you believe this man has a baby dinosaur in his briefcase?
 
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