RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
^ Ok, Thanks.
^ Ok, Thanks.
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RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
The park is doing everything they can to avoid building an Intamin. The deer are obviously just there in case they don't have enough doe for a B&M.
The park is doing everything they can to avoid building an Intamin. The deer are obviously just there in case they don't have enough doe for a B&M.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
But it does require permits and inspection. So far the only ones I can find don't relate to a building.
MadridBot said:
But it does require permits and inspection. So far the only ones I can find don't relate to a building.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
Station work doesn't require any more permits. It's no different than preparing a building for an event. The permit they filed years ago lasts for a while, and it can be used for anything. Some things they'll need additional permits for are vegetation removal, vertical construction, draining of the Rhine river (if they decide to), and some FAA requirements due to how tall the structure will be. There are a couple more like water pipes, but I'm going over the broad picture. We'll start seeing some more permits being filed as the year goes on.
Station work doesn't require any more permits. It's no different than preparing a building for an event. The permit they filed years ago lasts for a while, and it can be used for anything. Some things they'll need additional permits for are vegetation removal, vertical construction, draining of the Rhine river (if they decide to), and some FAA requirements due to how tall the structure will be. There are a couple more like water pipes, but I'm going over the broad picture. We'll start seeing some more permits being filed as the year goes on.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
New wiring work does require a permit and an inspection.
MadridBot said:
New wiring work does require a permit and an inspection.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
Depends on if the wiring is underground or not. Above ground wiring, and wiring that is built into the station can be done with pre existing electrical permits. When underground wiring and piping starts, you'll need permits and inspections.
horsesboy said:
Depends on if the wiring is underground or not. Above ground wiring, and wiring that is built into the station can be done with pre existing electrical permits. When underground wiring and piping starts, you'll need permits and inspections.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
^No. A permit is opened to complete work, have it inspected, and close the permit. It's not meant as a blanket approval for similar such work in the future, nor kept open for as long as they may need them. e.g. I once pulled a permit for wiring in the station house, so as long as I modify or add to the prior work, it's cool. It's not. They need new permits for modifying or adding to the work. Which they've pulled. And they're not for retrofitting Drachen's station for a new coaster. Nor does above or underground matter. In fact, wiring "built into the station" would likely receive more scrutiny, as it's a safety issue that may impact more people, and one of the biggest (if not the biggest) objectives of building code is safety.
^No. A permit is opened to complete work, have it inspected, and close the permit. It's not meant as a blanket approval for similar such work in the future, nor kept open for as long as they may need them. e.g. I once pulled a permit for wiring in the station house, so as long as I modify or add to the prior work, it's cool. It's not. They need new permits for modifying or adding to the work. Which they've pulled. And they're not for retrofitting Drachen's station for a new coaster. Nor does above or underground matter. In fact, wiring "built into the station" would likely receive more scrutiny, as it's a safety issue that may impact more people, and one of the biggest (if not the biggest) objectives of building code is safety.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
And you likely know as well as me that retro-fitting inspection and permit process can actually be much more difficult that new construction.
DF opened in '92, meaning construction of the station was in '91, permits and planning done in '90. That was 27 years ago, and I can be fairly confident in this next statement: electrical codes have changed quite a bit. So that would mean not only adding in what they want, but literally taking apart parts of the station to update everything. They likely would need a new control panel or two as well as updating the one that they have.
You can pull up all the old stuff from Verbolton from when they retrofitted that station, and I would bet there's likely multiple permit and inspection results from work done to the old BBW station to just update it.
If they were doing all that kind of work the permits would have been filed months ago.
My opinion is that the underground wiring and some other work back that way has to do with the fireworks and they are going to make it a long term investment.
thopping said:
And you likely know as well as me that retro-fitting inspection and permit process can actually be much more difficult that new construction.
DF opened in '92, meaning construction of the station was in '91, permits and planning done in '90. That was 27 years ago, and I can be fairly confident in this next statement: electrical codes have changed quite a bit. So that would mean not only adding in what they want, but literally taking apart parts of the station to update everything. They likely would need a new control panel or two as well as updating the one that they have.
You can pull up all the old stuff from Verbolton from when they retrofitted that station, and I would bet there's likely multiple permit and inspection results from work done to the old BBW station to just update it.
If they were doing all that kind of work the permits would have been filed months ago.
My opinion is that the underground wiring and some other work back that way has to do with the fireworks and they are going to make it a long term investment.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
Not true. There are numerous permits and inspections for HoS mazes and they are much less than the work you are suggesting is going on. Take a look at JCC's permit tracking website and you'll see they have filed permits for every HoS maze each year. Believe me, I would know - I've been watching the permits, CaseTrack, and Va811 websites like a hawk for anything related to construction in the park for a while now.
MadridBot said:
Not true. There are numerous permits and inspections for HoS mazes and they are much less than the work you are suggesting is going on. Take a look at JCC's permit tracking website and you'll see they have filed permits for every HoS maze each year. Believe me, I would know - I've been watching the permits, CaseTrack, and Va811 websites like a hawk for anything related to construction in the park for a while now.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
So just to be clear, whatever permits we see in the near term for this project will not be for anything in the existing Drachen Fire station.
So just to be clear, whatever permits we see in the near term for this project will not be for anything in the existing Drachen Fire station.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
That's interesting because my trusted source who predicted verbolten, Tempesto, and InvadR years in advance, as well as once being a contractor. He knows people in high management who I can confirm are real, and I can say that he visits the park everyday, checking the sights, and speaking with management. He was once extremely high in park ops. He says that the ride will be taking drachen fires old station. He has the 2019 plans that Zach and I both have seen "part" of.
Bring Back Questor 87 said:
That's interesting because my trusted source who predicted verbolten, Tempesto, and InvadR years in advance, as well as once being a contractor. He knows people in high management who I can confirm are real, and I can say that he visits the park everyday, checking the sights, and speaking with management. He was once extremely high in park ops. He says that the ride will be taking drachen fires old station. He has the 2019 plans that Zach and I both have seen "part" of.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
I can't tell what's fake news anymore.....ughhhhhh. lol!!!
I can't tell what's fake news anymore.....ughhhhhh. lol!!!
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
Hey now, I've seen no evidence that this person of yours has anything—let alone Project Madrid plans.
Hey now, I've seen no evidence that this person of yours has anything—let alone Project Madrid plans.
RE: Project Madrid: New Hamlet? Giga Coaster? 315' Tower?
*munches on popcorn*
*munches on popcorn*
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