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"Project Drachen Spire," is a community-generated identifier for the Intamin-made, multi-launch, shuttle giga coaster that was originally slated to open at Busch Gardens Williamsburg in 2021. The attraction is planned to utilize the currently-vacant land behind Verbolten, Festhaus Park—the former home of Drachen Fire.

The coaster's main layout—as leaked before the addition was delayed due to the COVID-19 pandemic—featured two launches, two spikes (one spiral, one vertical-ish), and a couple of banked turns. Drachen Spire was designed to run two trains by means of a pair of switch tracks connecting the primary, shuttle portion of the layout to the station platform.

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It appears Seaworld San Diego has cancelled a (originally planned for ) 2021 coaster project. I'd certainly not consider this outside the realm of possibility here.
 

It appears Seaworld San Diego has cancelled a (originally planned for ) 2021 coaster project. I'd certainly not consider this outside the realm of possibility here.

Misleading information.

article contains this quote :
"The permits indicate the project was cancelled on March 18th, 2020 – shortly after the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic. It is unknown why the project was cancelled, but if it was due to the pandemic, it would have been the first park project to get canned due to the pandemic."

There has been information leaked much more recently than that regarding "DrachenSpire".
 
Well I'm not totally counting chickens before they hatch without new county documents or the like, cautiously optimistic on the anonymous source info.
 
Well I'm not totally counting chickens before they hatch without new county documents or the like, cautiously optimistic on the anonymous source info.

Whether the article is right or wrong about SWSD, this is totally the right play in general.
 
Bge has got robot deer??? Why?


Assuming you honestly don’t know, @Pretzel Kaiser started a long-running joke about robot deer being involved in construction projects at BGW.

 
Assuming you honestly don’t know, @Pretzel Kaiser started a long-running joke about robot deer being involved in construction projects at BGW.


darn.... I was looking for one on Amazon....

No dice, but I did find these....

 
You think they could fit an out and back giga in that spot or would it be more twister a la I305
 
You think they could fit an out and back giga in that spot or would it be more twister a la I305

Not sure, but if I could pick one which I'd want, I'd rather have an out & back. At least if the twister type has the same turn after the drop. Always gray out on the I305 drop/turn.

Though the park already has an out & back hyper, so who knows?
 
No realistic space for an out-and-back unless we start seeing more RPA disturbance and/or ground testing filings soon.

I also don't know if an I-305 could fit in FHP with some modifications, but can say that they're unlikely to do it given that KD has an extremely similar ride and it's not even all that popular for a majority of guests - rumors of causing blackouts can do that.

However, if they were to figure out how to make a MF clone then we're onto something.

My guess, if they were to go full-circuit and keep the launch, would be to make it a shorter Kingda Ka clone - maybe with an inverted tophat to give it some unique element.
 
Alright, I'll take the time soon to try to draw this up but my "vision" for a less intense twister giga for FHP:

When you get into the station you now exit reverse of DF and DS, out to a turn around to a secondary stopping spot for the cable lift. The lift runs parallel to Bolt's building up to it's peak height. At the top, the turn happens at the start of the drop, meaning a majority of the speed being built up happens on a straight drop into the valley along the river (additionally I would do a cool water feature of a splash like Manta), climbing back up to a high banked turn. So at this point imagine a lift took you along to where the spire currently is to be.

After a slightly larger than 180 degree turn, the track ends up back on top of the hill, now about to climb into a huge overbank turn that does a bit of a Stengal Dive like element or a non-inverting immalman starting under the lift than coming back up over the lift to the dive.

Make a twisted speed hill over the track connecting the 1st overbook and 2nd non-inverting immalman. Chasing into a low banked turn under the overbank, the track turns parallel to the train tracks. Then it climbs to an airtime hill to turn, drop, another airtime hill that comes down in a turning motion for element #2 of big ambitions:
A rebuilt station to be a little bigger has the track "crash" through the roof of the station.

Another airtime element, a turn out to run right along the path of the first drop, coming up back to the level, where it turns for element #3 of big ambitions:
The track runs at speed through the old DF maintenance bay where the track pulls you up through the roof for one more airtime pop, downward half helix, into the breaks and back into the station.
 
No realistic space for an out-and-back unless we start seeing more RPA disturbance and/or ground testing filings soon.

I also don't know if an I-305 could fit in FHP with some modifications, but can say that they're unlikely to do it given that KD has an extremely similar ride and it's not even all that popular for a majority of guests - rumors of causing blackouts can do that.

However, if they were to figure out how to make a MF clone then we're onto something.

My guess, if they were to go full-circuit and keep the launch, would be to make it a shorter Kingda Ka clone - maybe with an inverted tophat to give it some unique element.

Yeah I doubt they'd do a full scale out & back, as like you said, there just isn't enough room unless they were to suddenly start clearing everything, which I don't think will happen anytime soon, if ever.
 
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Alright, I'll take the time soon to try to draw this up but my "vision" for a less intense twister giga for FHP:

Yes, I think that's the best case scenario to me.

I really don't think the site would prevent them from building any size of ride once the first hill/valley is cleared. Especially with newer style elements, theres no shortage of ways to turn the track around in a small footprint and still maintain the type of thrill they'd be aiming for. I305 is sort of the largest "compact" ride you could build, with all of its turnarounds taken in very low, enormous flat turns. A compact ride with many high peaks would seem ideal for the site, being as visible as possible from around the park and from inside Germany to get people to actually migrate through that corridor

Although if it were up to me, I'd still try and put a station where the bumper cars is, or in the Darkastle building, or something, if budget allowed. A possibility you could imagine from Der Autobahn:

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