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RE: Project 2015: Premier Rides Coaster for Festa Italia

jonfin826 said:
I think the GP will be all over this. For diehard fans like us though, it is somewhat of a nightmare situation.

The GP will like it until they realize they just killed half a day waiting in line to ride it.
 
RE: Project 2015: Premier Rides Coaster for Festa Italia

It is an interesting concept for the ride...not really digging the location, but I am going to wait until all the details, including official capacity, theme package and other information are available before I really make up my mind about this ride.
 
RE: Project 2015: Premier Rides Coaster for Festa Italia

I have mixed feelings for this ride. Having not visited many theme parks besides Busch Gardens, I have not had the opportunity to ride a coaster like this one before and am exited to ride it (though I may have to wait for three hours). However, having been a loyal fan of this park for many years, I feel that this ride does not fit the overall experience that I have come to expect from BGW.
 
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whispers said:
including official capacity

Seriously don't keep your hopes up about it, the capacity's going to be god awful. It's going to be BGW's version of Volcano in terms of throughput, only 3 times slower.

EDIT: Oh god I actually just said something good about Volcano, that's how bad this project is :|
 
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Maybe they'll cover one side of the structure with chicken wire and concrete to form their own 'Volcano' and the trains spitting out the top will be lava fireballs. The ride name......Mount Vesuvius.
 
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That was the first thing that popped up when I typed in Diavlo. Nice logo! So we truly might be getting a Volcano themed coaster.
EDIT: I was just informed the name isn't Diavlo but Diavolo. It's actually like a devil or something. I still want that to be the logo for humor.
 
RE: Project 2015: Premier Rides Coaster for Festa Italia

redsoxfan787 said:
I think this will be a good addition to Busch Gardens. They really do need more roller coasters and attractions. Not only will a new roller coaster draw people to the park, the more rides, the longer each guest will stay. Therefore, more money spent on food, merchandise, etc.

Just because BGW is getting a new coaster doesn't mean that it'll draw more people to the park. The only two attractions in the last twenty years that brought a significant rise in attendance were Alpengeist and Griffon.

And how much money is a guest gonna spend inside the park when they are gonna be waiting 5+ hours to ride this thing? If anything, they'll spend half a day waiting in line for this coaster and the other half waiting in line at guest relations to complain about how long they had to wait for such a crappy ride.
 
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Once people figure out how long this ride will take to queue they aren't going to wait.(especially because of how short the ride is)

They should also be putting it between the entrance and festa italia because the only thing you have there is the childrens area and Pompeii.
 
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Unagi said:
Just because BGW is getting a new coaster doesn't mean that it'll draw more people to the park.  The only two attractions in the last twenty years that brought a significant rise in attendance were Alpengeist and Griffon.

Anything new that is marketed properly can bring in more people. The problem does not lie within the rides, but within the crappy marketing. If they actually did any real work with getting the word out there through TV, Radio, Billboards, etc. they would get more attendance. The problem comes down to no one wants to spend money on marketing so they end up doing nothing and they drop the ball.

Verbolten and Mach Tower are perfect examples of the extremes. Mach Tower got amazing advertising and marketing everywhere! Verbolten saw nothing. Maybe a few ads on the construction fence but that was it. There was no real marketing done with that at all. This is where the park fails. I am being dead serious, they could have hit over 3M a year if they really focused on advertising more in the right places and really shove it in everyones face about the free fall drop. I mean, they don't have to market the ride until after the first month or so after it opens that way the ride has gone through most of it's settling in and downtime is not much an issue no more. By then, everyone already knows the special surprise and you can really advertise it to the people who haven't visited.

Unagi said:
And how much money is a guest gonna spend inside the park when they are gonna be waiting 5+ hours to ride this thing?  If anything, they'll spend half a day waiting in line for this coaster and the other half waiting in line at guest relations to complain about how long they had to wait for such a crappy ride.

Think of the families that come together as a group. Not everyone in a family will ride this. While part of the family is in line waiting to ride, the other part might go off to play some games, get some snacks or check out Apollo's Gifts. I am guessing that would be the main reason for keeping the Arcade and Coke Stand, for the non-riders who have friends or family riding. That is where the money is, in the non-riders.

That said, I doubt waits will exceed 2 hours on any normal operating day. Maybe the first month or so the line will get a little heavier but I seriously doubt 5 hour waits frequently.
 
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Party Rocker said:
Unagi said:
Just because BGW is getting a new coaster doesn't mean that it'll draw more people to the park.  The only two attractions in the last twenty years that brought a significant rise in attendance were Alpengeist and Griffon.

Anything new that is marketed properly can bring in more people. The problem does not lie within the rides, but within the crappy marketing. If they actually did any real work with getting the word out there through TV, Radio, Billboards, etc. they would get more attendance. The problem comes down to no one wants to spend money on marketing so they end up doing nothing and they drop the ball.

Verbolten and Mach Tower are perfect examples of the extremes. Mach Tower got amazing advertising and marketing everywhere! Verbolten saw nothing. Maybe a few ads on the construction fence but that was it. There was no real marketing done with that at all. This is where the park fails. I am being dead serious, they could have hit over 3M a year if they really focused on advertising more in the right places and really shove it in everyones face about the free fall drop. I mean, they don't have to market the ride until after the first month or so after it opens that way the ride has gone through most of it's settling in and downtime is not much an issue no more. By then, everyone already knows the special surprise and you can really advertise it to the people who haven't visited.

Unagi said:
And how much money is a guest gonna spend inside the park when they are gonna be waiting 5+ hours to ride this thing?  If anything, they'll spend half a day waiting in line for this coaster and the other half waiting in line at guest relations to complain about how long they had to wait for such a crappy ride.

Think of the families that come together as a group. Not everyone in a family will ride this. While part of the family is in line waiting to ride, the other part might go off to play some games, get some snacks or check out Apollo's Gifts. I am guessing that would be the main reason for keeping the Arcade and Coke Stand, for the non-riders who have friends or family riding. That is where the money is, in the non-riders.

That said, I doubt waits will exceed 2 hours on any normal operating day. Maybe the first month or so the line will get a little heavier but I seriously doubt 5 hour waits frequently.
This ride may have a long line at first but I feel like it will be a shockwave, nobody will ride it after it has been there for a little.
 
RE: Project 2015: Premier Rides Coaster for Festa Italia

Looks like Mexico is also getting the same clone coaster in 2015...
http://www.themeparkreview.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=67833

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RE: Project 2015: Premier Rides Coaster for Festa Italia

But! That one will have a dual station. So we know it's possible, and perhaps not entirely out of the question for the BG version. Here's to hoping!
 
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^I sure as heck hope it happens at Busch! It would sure alleviate some of the concerns about this coaster.
 
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Don't get your hopes up about a dual station. The plans don't show the station being large enough to accommodate such a feature. If you've seen the overhead plans you would've noticed that the queue enters from only one side of the ride, not two like what the dual loading stations require. The queue never splits, and there's only one exit. Put 2 and 2 together, and the answer is not fish.
 
RE: Project 2015: Premier Rides Coaster for Festa Italia

I don't know a lot about these types of coaster but could they set up the station like Verbolten?
 
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No, it's a shuttle coaster, not a continuous circuit. If they did do something like that, the train would launch out, come back backwards, and hit the train behind it.
 
RE: Project 2015: Premier Rides Coaster for Festa Italia

James said:
I don't know a lot about these types of coaster but could they set up the station like Verbolten?

There's only one block on the entire ride and that's the station, unfortunately it would be impossible to do so.
 
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