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We can also confirm (with a 90%) this will be the this will be the last year for monster stomp and the ripper row in England. Reports state that last year was supposedly going to be its last year but due to timing the park decided to keep it for one more year.
 
Highly doubtful. Entertainment budgets are a tiny fraction of what they once were and most all of the creatives who brought us BGW's once-great shows are now gone. There's very little momentum behind large, theatrical productions anywhere in the SEAS chain right now. The outlook for entertainment at BGW is very grim.
 
Highly doubtful. Entertainment budgets are a tiny fraction of what they once were and most all of the creatives who brought us BGW's once-great shows are now gone. The outlook for entertainment at BGW is very grim.
That’s a shame, it’s not just a post covid draw back? you really don’t foresee any growth in that aspect ?
 
it’s not just a post covid draw back?

Definitely not. The shows that have/are returning post-COVID are often stripped down shells of their former selves (a trend which is slated to continue—hint, hint) and the desire, ability, and budgets to create anything new of any acceptable quality simply doesn't exist anymore—and I see no path back to such investments anytime soon either.

SEAS as a chain, sees no value in theatrical productions. They'd much rather the money go towards ride hardware.

I think the theming, culinary, and landscaping issues at BGW are far more likely to see movement towards fixes than entertainment. Hell, I'd say the outlook for entertainment is even more bleak than the outlook for zoo—and that's saying something.
 
Highly doubtful. Entertainment budgets are a tiny fraction of what they once were and most all of the creatives who brought us BGW's once-great shows are now gone. There's very little momentum behind large, theatrical productions anywhere in the SEAS chain right now. The outlook for entertainment at BGW is very grim.
All SEAS wants to invest in these days are unthemed coasters. We saw how well that formula worked out for Six Flags in the past. Bankruptcy.

SEAS used to be the upper level regional theme park operator when they offered something for everyone. But apparently they have just chosen to appeal to thrill seekers who tend to be younger and have less income.

These regional theme parks should take a lesson off of Herschend. They have lots of live entertainment all season long. It enables them to operate almost daily 10 months of the year because they appeal to people other than thrill seekers. I would say half the crowd there doesn’t even ride the rides.
 
All SEAS wants to invest in these days are unthemed coasters. We saw how well that formula worked out for Six Flags in the past. Bankruptcy.

SEAS used to be the upper level regional theme park operator when they offered something for everyone. But apparently they have just chosen to appeal to thrill seekers who tend to be younger and have less income.

These regional theme parks should take a lesson off of Herschend. They have lots of live entertainment all season long. It enables them to operate almost daily 10 months of the year because they appeal to people other than thrill seekers. I would say half the crowd there doesn’t even ride the rides.
I mean don’t get me wrong I think the coasters should be the priority, I just hate that they would let all the shows go to the way side to save a dime, but so is the corporate world I guess.
 
I mean don’t get me wrong I think the coasters should be the priority, I just hate that they would let all the shows go to the way side to save a dime, but so is the corporate world I guess.
But there shouldn’t be a priority between the two. The shows (if there are enough of them done correctly) bring in a different market of people as shown at Dollywood.
 
I mean don’t get me wrong I think the coasters should be the priority
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Haha come on now your lying to me if you don’t immediately imagine that skyline full of coasters when someone says theme parks. But I don’t want to lose the shows for them
I imagine that when someone says amusement parks. When someone says theme park, I imagine being immersed somewhere that feels disconnected from the outside world, somewhere you get lost in the theme. To me, natural beauty is a great way to achieve that, unless your theme is parking lots and steel structures.
 
I imagine that when someone says amusement parks. When someone says theme park, I imagine being immersed somewhere that feels disconnected from the outside world, somewhere you get lost in the theme. To me, natural beauty is a great way to achieve that, unless your theme is parking lots and steel structures.

This. BGW was one of the world’s best theme parks even when it only had 4 coasters (and less). Epcot was one of the world’s best theme parks when it had zero coasters.

In my opinion, coasters are just one of the many ingredients that make theme parks the escapist, immersive, make-believe wonderlands that we love.
 
I'm pretty sure neither Disney nor Universal has a "skyline full coasters."

Also, this thread had drifted off-topic.
I really think everyone is getting the wrong take away from my comments. I never once even suggested that they needed to take away from monster stomp or any other show for the coasters. I just meant the coasters are a very valuable part of the park. I really do hate to see the shows are seeing any kind of lack of attention from seas even if imo they aren’t the main thing I think of when I think of the park. I simply hope that what ever replaces monster stomp will see success and breath life in the park for people who come for the shows.
 
Speaking entirely for myself, I understood your point completely.

There is a difference, however, between saying that theme parks need themed rides and shows and saying, "you're lying to me if you don’t immediately imagine that skyline full of coasters when someone says theme parks."

A skyline full of coasters is not essential to a good theme park. Immersive storytelling and placemaking are essential to a good theme park. They are what differentiate a theme park from an amusement park. Both theme and amusement parks can have coasters, however.
 
Speaking entirely for myself, I understood your point completely.

There is a difference, however, between saying that theme parks need themed rides and shows and saying, "you're lying to me if you don’t immediately imagine that skyline full of coasters when someone says theme parks."

A skyline full of coasters is not essential to a good theme park. Immersive storytelling and placemaking are essential to a good theme park. They are what differentiate a theme park from an amusement park. Both theme and amusement parks can have coasters, however.
Is it being facetious to bring up Alton Towers?
 
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Speaking entirely for myself, I understood your point completely.

There is a difference, however, between saying that theme parks need themed rides and shows and saying, "you're lying to me if you don’t immediately imagine that skyline full of coasters when someone says theme parks."

A skyline full of coasters is not essential to a good theme park. Immersive storytelling and placemaking are essential to a good theme park. They are what differentiate a theme park from an amusement park. Both theme and amusement parks can have coasters, however.
Your taking that quote out of context I started that statement out with haha for a reason I’m simply joking with what I thought was fun banter with the use of their use of the meme. I was just saying coasters are a huge aspect especially to this park and to what the majority of the visitors want, just speaking in terms of wait times and lines for rides vs shows. That’s all I meant. Again I’m just trying to explain my view point and not any way imply that the shows aren’t important I only commented because I did not even know that the shows had got to the state that are in and that I was disappointed to hear that for the people that do find the shows to be their favorite aspect of the park. And just to try to steer the thread back on topic I do truly hope that what ever replaces monster stomp doesn’t disappoint people’s expectations.
 
Everything said on this forum must be 100% serious. We don't tolerate tomfoolery here.

I'll take the blame for veering us of course with my admittedly soapboxish reply to a joke, but I refuse to rescind the penguin. That's the most important thing I've done all week now that I've managed to make an inter-thread reference.
 
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