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RE: Mäch Tower

Swiftman said:
James said:
I think the problem people are having with this ride is that its just a flat and not an attraction themed all by itself example:

People were looking for a Dark Kastle kind of seperate theming and its own area vs. a simple flat blending in with the surrounding rights. Like if Battering Ram was added to Italy rides. It would simply blend in with the surrounding theming.

Very good point to make. You are correct, the Mach Tower is rubbing me the wrong way not necessarily because I don't like the idea, but because it isn't an experience. The last real experience added to the park was DarKastle. It is further worsened by the fact that the last time they attempted to add and experience to the park, it was one of the worst things Busch Gardens has ever done (EitA). It comes back to the whole "Amusement Park vs. Theme Park" idea. Theme Parks offer experiences while Amusement Parks offer rides. The Mach Tower, in my opinion, is a ride, not an experience- just like Griffon was.


I can understand where you're coming from. I believe the majority of the public want a nice mixture of ride and experience.

Even though Mach Tower is a ride, it being in a landscape such as Busch Gardens and the perspective it will give of such a nice park, can make this "experience" stand out from other drop towers.
 
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DarKastle? An experience? pfft. It really isnt that great... Nowadays it is in the same boat as EiTA to me, but I still like riding to escape the heat... The themeing is horrible, alot of the sets are 2-D, some of effects are turned off, they took away the pre-show room. They had a great concept and the potential to make a great ride, but they took the extra cheap way out of the sets and could have had a world class ride... Now they have a joke that they dont seem to pay that much attention to. Last time I rode a stage door was open letting light into the "library" scene(you know the one with the flat bookcases?) and it killed the ride for me and the Honeymoon couple riding behind me...

I dont know why people run these rides and make budget cuts to them dont realize that the queue is apart of the attraction experience... I still cant even comprehend why someone would cut back on themeing inside a ride or let an effect stay broken for prolonged periods of time(yeah fireplace, im looking at you)...

/rant

Anyways Griffon is a cool name... I dont understand why there is no "real" themeing about it. Just like Apollo. Station Decor matching the period theme, yes... but Griffon and Apollo's themeing compared to Alpengeist or Lochness... Is pitiful. Now, from the concepts we have seen I think MT may be a return to form( i mean there isnt much you can do to a drop ride of this nature but the themeing looks good), and also this 2012 coaster sounds promising... Blackstone parks have come to be known from their stellar themed attractions, so i doubt they'd allow anything less than the best...
 
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Youhow2 said:
this 2012 coaster sounds promising... Blackstone parks have come to be known from their stellar themed attractions, so i doubt they'd allow anything less than the best...

Hopefully the idiotic names given in the survey regarding the 2012 coaster were just part of a sick joke.
 

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I'm going to make an educated guess and say Mach Tower will not be open in March.
 
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Lol. Drop towers do go up pretty fast after the base is in place and vertical starts. They really cant afford to be doing much construction on this thing while guest are in the park... If it's not open in march it should be open in April. They got to get that thing built pretty fast... But they have 2 months and it really is just a flat ride... A really tall one...
 
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You know... I hate park specific fansites for the most part because the "competition" is always getting cracked on...

The changes to I305 and the building of mach tower dont have much in common. I305 changes are because intamin failed at making a proper ride, and has nothing to do with any "inadequacy" on the part of Cedar Fair and those in charge of operations at Kings Dominion. If it's not open on time I'd blame busch for allowing the construction to start so late.

Anyways I now recall thinking i read somewehre it's sposed to open in may...
 
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Youhow2 said:
You know... I hate park specific fansites for the most part because the "competition" is always getting cracked on...

The changes to I305 and the building of mach tower dont have much in common. I305 changes are because intamin failed at making a proper ride, and has nothing to do with any "inadequacy" on the part of Cedar Fair and those in charge of operations at Kings Dominion. If it's not open on time I'd blame busch for allowing the construction to start so late.

Anyways I now recall thinking i read somewehre it's sposed to open in may...

Mach Tower has always been planned as a late spring thing. I would even expect to see a fence over the whole area like they did when they renovated Hastings into Ireland.

And as far as KD and I305, Intamin has a reputation that could predict something like this. I can see the meeting now:

KD: We want a giga coaster, something fresh, new, never done before.

Intamin Rep: Hmm, what if we took the first part of millennium force...

KD: Thats not new..

Intamin:...

KD:...

Intamin: BUT THIS TIME WE'LL FLATTEN THE FIRST TURN!!! It'll be soooo fast, you could theme it to a race car!

KD: Brilliant, but what about the G's?

Intamin: G's? Na, it's aight dawg. We can just put brakes on the drop if we need to.

KD: Oh, OK! Sign us up!
 
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Intamin's reputation is really only bad when it comes to their launched rides that use cables...Im sure Intamin assured KD that the forces that came up would not be too great for riders to handle... And they are not, but Im almost positive that knowing the GP a few people black out from the G's and everyone is ready to call their lawyers and act like they are suffering serious emotional damage and such. Again, not quite Intamin's or KD's fault... It's just that members of the GP dont know that a blackout isnt gonna kill them... It's a shame really because Im sure even with the widening of the turn it will still happen and the only option after that without shortening the speed hill is to keep the brakes on...
 
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From an email that Busch sent out about an hour ago:
When the park opens March 26, guests will be welcomed to our new Oktoberfest village with the aroma of freshly baked pretzels and the fun and festivities of a new beer garden.

Looks like we have confirmation that both the Pretzel Shop and the Beer Garden will be opening with the park. Nothing new about the Mäch Tower though. If you aren't subscribed to Busch Garden's email newsletter (I don't blame you!), I've attached a PDF of it below for your viewing pleasure.
 

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iheartbgw2020 said:
I don't believe in that stuff, and i dont think you need to worry. (Imagine what will be happening the night before Dec. 21, people will be going insane, even if they don't believe in the Apocalypse, and that will be how our world will end. Insanity)

djsuka2009 said:
maybe after reaching the top and the seats vibrate you do your plummet to the earth then as the brakes hit in you think you are safe and it will blast you back up and plummet you back down now thats a mach tower sorry just an idea i would love to design rides for bg and other amusement parks especially after working in the theme park industry for 10 years, but cant wait to ride it, oh my friend said as it gets to the top it will lean over like the leaning tower of pisa, but who knows what bg has up its sleeves, :-/
what if it starts to vibrate then leans you over? just a thought
 
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Youhow2 said:
I hope those pretzels are amazing..

Kinda of random but, does anyone know if the picture that shows on the BGW website about mach tower if the colors are correct or are those just concept colors.
 
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i dont know it looked good as a paint scheme and goes well with the theme too.
 
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