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So this is the ride I rode yesterday where the crew seemed to have no training. A rider threw up, either while riding or immediately when they got back, maybe in the brake run, because it was all in the car. I used to work at KD, I have cleaned throw up out of a roller coaster before. This is a 15 minute process, max. This crew had no idea what to do. In fact they did nothing but open a cabinet and stare at the cleaning supplies before a woman in a leadership shirt finally walked up the station ramp. By herself this woman did her best to try and clean up while the crew just stood around staring at her, LOL. They actually had a hose in the station, never seen that before, but it wasn't connected to water or they didn't know how to use it, I'm guessing they literally didn't know how to turn the hose on. At this point I left the queue to go ride something else. If you are ever in that station or ride queue and you see or smell smoke, run. Because I know for a fact that don't know how to use the fire extinguisher.
 
A rider threw up, either while riding or immediately when they got back, maybe in the brake run, because it was all in the car.
This seems like one of those extreme situations that you don’t really talk about a ton.

I've worked at golf courses with similar. We trained for injuries, fights, etc on the course. But then we have a situation of someone getting a compound fracture trying to get a ball off a rock wall (did have a do not climb sign). No was for EMTs to get back there. General SOP would be to get them to the clubhouse.

They literally had to wait 15 minutes for us and the EMTs to collab on a solution. And that was after the 8ish minutes to get EMTs to the course.

It sucks, I’m sorry it happened to you, but some challenges are that even for well seasoned employees.

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I say this because I remember it happened at KD with Dominator one time - just much lesser. They cleaned all the seats hit really well then cycled that car 4-5 times cleaning it each time it came in.
 
They actually had a hose in the station, never seen that before, but it wasn't connected to water or they didn't know how to use it, I'm guessing they literally didn't know how to turn the hose on.
I used to work there. It works. It’s easy to turn on. They just didn’t try. Fun fact, the seats also lift up on a hinge to 90° which makes cleaning easier.
 
Don’t want to derail the thread further but one time a person threw up on the train coming in the station and we were next to ride. Ops got the person off and hosed the entire train down with a soap solution and water. They cycled the train about 3-4 times to make sure it was dry and then put it back in service. Poor lady was in the third row when she got sick. I’d hate to be the people in the rows behind her…. 😳
 
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Funny you mention this. Last time I was at the park (September 2025) we saw InvadR go down twice in one day for the same reason. Is this a common problem on InvadR? I don’t see it often on any of the other rides, maybe once on Pantheon.
 
Good god this thing is getting rough. 2017? GCI rides worse than racer or the non retracked grizzly and not even in the same universe as mystic timbers. The fuck is wrong with this thing? The slowest turn at the top of the life feels like square wheels and then the coming bunny hills before the retracked helix you can visable see the the entire violently shake it's ass off. What possible reason does this ride so incredibly worse than mystic that runs in 30 degree weather, 3 trains, and sees way more laps a year i assume?
 
Yeah this thing runs like shit. Shame because mystic runs so well but I guess it's just that KI takes much better care of it.
I dont buy the whole "parks take better care ect" they all have to go by the code from the company on what to use, wheels, ect. It's the exact same ride. It makes no damn sense

Just like how KIs FOF is dogshit vs KDs.

Why lmao
 
Yeah I was really surprised by my ride on it yesterday and not in a good way. Runs worse than any woodie at KD and worse than Hurler at Carowinds.
 
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I dont buy the whole "parks take better care ect" they all have to go by the code from the company on what to use, wheels, ect. It's the exact same ride. It makes no damn sense

Just like how KIs FOF is dogshit vs KDs.

Why lmao

There's an enormous delta between the minimum amount of safe maintenance a coaster must receive to operate and the most love and care a coaster can receive to ensure that it delivers the absolute best ride experience possible. This is especially true on wooden coasters.

At a park chain like United where maintenance is chronically understaffed and underfunded and the priority is maintaining rides to at or near the minimum requirements to operate them safely, it's sadly not remotely surprising that a maintenance-intensive ride like InvadR is struggling so severely.

I know there have already been discussions internally about InvadR's future—largely revolving around possible steel retrack options. Don't be surprised at all if InvadR's wooden track begins vanishing by the end of the decade.

If BGW does go that route, I'd honestly like to see them go all the way and straight-up RMC InvadR into something like the first retrofitted Wild Moose. Right now InvadR feels like it's completely lost in the sea of BGW's other family coasters. Turning it into something novel and airtime-focused but still targeting the family market could do a lot of good in my opinion.

Would I love for BGW to keep a true wooden coaster? Yes. Do I think they should when there's essentially zero chance they will ever maintain it to the standard it deserves? No.
 
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I know there have already been discussions internally about InvadR's future—largely revolving around possible steel retrack options. Don't be surprised at all if InvadR's wooden track begins vanishing by the end of the decade.
You know…I get why parks would like wooden structure steel track woodie coasters. Less costs, less damage, more uptime. But we’re really starting to loose out on what makes woodies so special IMO. It really takes a special place to care and put the time and money into maintaining and managing a woodie. United seems to not care, and SF seems to care just barely more. It seems like the small places like Kennywood and Knoebles are the ones that car.

If BGW does go that route, I'd honestly like to see them go all the way and straight-up RMC InvadR into something like the first retrofitted Wild Moose. Right now InvadR feels like it's completely lost in the sea of BGW's other family coasters. Turning it into something novel and airtime-focused but still targeting the family market could do a lot of good in my opinion.
I hope not just from the fact I rather avoid any RMC train and the RMC issues that come up. Not that they would, but if they are going to do that, make the list steeper to go a little taller and stretch the length of the ride turning left the first time after the drop where it crosses the railroad and give a little out and back element that can add some more pops of airtime. Adding 50-70% length to the track can do so much in making it different.

EDIT: Because you are right on the lost in other family coasters. It’s like which flavor of twister do you want? Wood (InvadR), indoor launched (DarKastle), indoor/outdoor launched (VBolt), or inverted (BBW)? Also VERY awkward that 3/4 are like 150yards apart from each other and the 4th isn’t that far either.

Really awkward question and thought then. InvadR’s structure is still, but the track is why they could call it a woodie. If it’s RMC/Titan track (so steel) with a steel structure, is it technically a steel coaster then?
 
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You know…I get why parks would like wooden structure steel track woodie coasters. Less costs, less damage, more uptime. But we’re really starting to loose out on what makes woodies so special IMO. It really takes a special place to care and put the time and money into maintaining and managing a woodie. United seems to not care, and SF seems to care just barely more. It seems like the small places like Kennywood and Knoebles are the ones that car.


I hope not just from the fact I rather avoid any RMC train and the RMC issues that come up. Not that they would, but if they are going to do that, make the list steeper to go a little taller and stretch the length of the ride turning left the first time after the drop where it crosses the railroad and give a little out and back element that can add some more pops of airtime. Adding 50-70% length to the track can do so much in making it different.

EDIT: Because you are right on the lost in other family coasters. It’s like which flavor of twister do you want? Wood (InvadR), indoor launched (DarKastle), indoor/outdoor launched (VBolt), or inverted (BBW)? Also VERY awkward that 3/4 are like 150yards apart from each other and the 4th isn’t that far either.

Really awkward question and thought then. InvadR’s structure is still, but the track is why they could call it a woodie. If it’s RMC/Titan track (so steel) with a steel structure, is it technically a steel coaster then?
Invadr should technically still be a hybrid coaster, same with voyage. Even ryan the ride mechanica calls them hybrids. Busch should be beyond done with family coasters, they have everything, get the darkride in corkscrew hill showbuilding and flats and lets get some mammoth of a flagship ride in this park that it needs. Ignoring the smarter decisions to spend the money on smarter things 1st though lol (revamping the whole main front gate and removing the old ticket booths) Water Country also needs a new slide soon/adult hangout/restraunt area
 
This park is not short of "Flagship Rides." Nessie is one of the most recognizable coasters, and Pantheon is a behemoth of a ride. As much as we thoosies would love a 300+ foot giga, the park is very much so struggling in the family flat ride department.
Me and you deffiently dont see rides the same lol Nessie is trash and not fun for a reride at all, i hear GP constantly talk about how rough it is and even BGW thoosies in the groups say the retrack sucks.

I have my opinions on pantheon, I don't view it as a statment piece of a ride at all compared to many other things. It's just not a ride to reride all day for me
 
I rode it last week for the first time since 2019.

It was noticeably less smooth, and more out of control than I remember.

I don't know what it needs, but the park needs an RMC asap, and a small version of this happening to InvadR in some form would not be a terrible idea IMO.
 
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Me and you deffiently dont see rides the same
I’m not talking about either of our opinions on the ride. I’m speaking about the absolutely iconic, landmark ride that Nessie is.
I have my opinions on pantheon, I don't view it as a statment piece of a ride at all compared to many other things. It's just not a ride to reride all day for me
Again, it’s not a matter of opinion, it’s the fact that pantheon is a world class ride. I’m not the biggest of Pantherian, but to say claim that Pantherian is anything but a flagship icon would be foolish of me.
 
Other than the initial turn, I don't find the ride that bad.

Nessie sucks... Not many old arrow coasters deserve to stick around. I said what I said. The park is stuck with this and I'm okay with that as it is nostalgia

Family rides are a must. There should not be a new coaster until at least 4 family attractions have been added.
 
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