Howl-O-Scream 2012 (Old Thread)
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RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
I know this issue has been beaten to death, but I really hope that the up charge house is not an age limit house. I'm only 15, but I can go through any house without being afraid because I know it's just that, a house full of actors. I enjoy seeing who is good enough at scaring to make me jump. If there was an up charge house, I would happily pay the fee to go through, but if the park limited the age, I would lose that experience. I have friends like me that aren't scared, and I have friends that nearly pee themselves in the park. That's why an up charge house shouldn't have an age limit, because if someone chooses to go through, they can deal with the consequences and be scared or have fun.
I know this issue has been beaten to death, but I really hope that the up charge house is not an age limit house. I'm only 15, but I can go through any house without being afraid because I know it's just that, a house full of actors. I enjoy seeing who is good enough at scaring to make me jump. If there was an up charge house, I would happily pay the fee to go through, but if the park limited the age, I would lose that experience. I have friends like me that aren't scared, and I have friends that nearly pee themselves in the park. That's why an up charge house shouldn't have an age limit, because if someone chooses to go through, they can deal with the consequences and be scared or have fun.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
I think an up charge house is a good idea, but I don't think I would be spending $40 on it
I think an up charge house is a good idea, but I don't think I would be spending $40 on it
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
I won't pay $40 for it. That's way too high. For first year they need to draw people to it before they charge that much. Plus Tampa has a lot of tourists which don't mind spending money when there on vacation.
I won't pay $40 for it. That's way too high. For first year they need to draw people to it before they charge that much. Plus Tampa has a lot of tourists which don't mind spending money when there on vacation.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
You guys should find some "Alone" reviews. Well worth the money for the level of immersion you get as well as a chance go through a house without any kids.
You guys should find some "Alone" reviews. Well worth the money for the level of immersion you get as well as a chance go through a house without any kids.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
There is zero chance I'd pay $40 to go through one haunted house (for what, 10 mins?), anywhere, ever. Zero.
There is zero chance I'd pay $40 to go through one haunted house (for what, 10 mins?), anywhere, ever. Zero.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
For $40 they should give us a pass to go in it for free the rest of the year, but I still don't even know if I would pay that
For $40 they should give us a pass to go in it for free the rest of the year, but I still don't even know if I would pay that
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
All I know is Tampa had that house sold out every night.
All I know is Tampa had that house sold out every night.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
Tampa has a different target audience. They mainly have tourists all year long that plan to spend tons of money on their weekend vacation.
BGW has to draw in locals mostly during that time of year. Its hard for them because they also try to be family friendly at the same time.
I would think maybe $10 for the first year, after all even Christmas Town doesn't cost $40 and that almost the whole park for one night.
Tampa has a different target audience. They mainly have tourists all year long that plan to spend tons of money on their weekend vacation.
BGW has to draw in locals mostly during that time of year. Its hard for them because they also try to be family friendly at the same time.
I would think maybe $10 for the first year, after all even Christmas Town doesn't cost $40 and that almost the whole park for one night.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
To be fair, if BGW's Alone is as awesome as BGT's, they will have put more work into it than Christmastown.
To be fair, if BGW's Alone is as awesome as BGT's, they will have put more work into it than Christmastown.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
1 haunted house = 1 entire special park wide event
Not sure how that measures up exactly?
1 haunted house = 1 entire special park wide event
Not sure how that measures up exactly?
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
You also get a shirt and a picture if you go through Alone....alone. Not saying that it completely justifies it, but it does help. I will probably do it just to say I did. It's kind of like paying to be in an exclusive club. And HoS shirts usually run me about $20-$30 anyways. For the same price, you can also choose to bring in up to three friends with you. You just don't get the shirt or picture. Split four ways is not a bad upcharge.
For everyone concerned with the price, consider if you have paid for a coaster tour or if you have thought about going on one of their dinner packages. You are paying for an experience that was created specifically for it's targeted audience. Like I've said before, I am a huge fan of HoS, and I follow HoS Tampa and HHN all year round for rumors and leaks. There is something about the creativity and effort that goes into creating an impressive haunt that intrests me. So therefore, I am the target audience. Please don't bash the upcharge price. Alone in Tampa seemed to be well worth the price for the experience BG offered you due to the product they produced.
This will not be a Catacombs or a Dead Line. In no way shape or form....by far.
-Jessica
You also get a shirt and a picture if you go through Alone....alone. Not saying that it completely justifies it, but it does help. I will probably do it just to say I did. It's kind of like paying to be in an exclusive club. And HoS shirts usually run me about $20-$30 anyways. For the same price, you can also choose to bring in up to three friends with you. You just don't get the shirt or picture. Split four ways is not a bad upcharge.
For everyone concerned with the price, consider if you have paid for a coaster tour or if you have thought about going on one of their dinner packages. You are paying for an experience that was created specifically for it's targeted audience. Like I've said before, I am a huge fan of HoS, and I follow HoS Tampa and HHN all year round for rumors and leaks. There is something about the creativity and effort that goes into creating an impressive haunt that intrests me. So therefore, I am the target audience. Please don't bash the upcharge price. Alone in Tampa seemed to be well worth the price for the experience BG offered you due to the product they produced.
This will not be a Catacombs or a Dead Line. In no way shape or form....by far.
-Jessica
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
No one is bashing the price, but for this area, and it being its first year, we doubt it will cost so much. Who is to say your going to get a free shirt and photo here? If so, most of their tours offer photo CD's and offer a whole lot more and cost about $30 on average. I would imagine, $10 - $15 for their first year fits just about right.
No one is bashing the price, but for this area, and it being its first year, we doubt it will cost so much. Who is to say your going to get a free shirt and photo here? If so, most of their tours offer photo CD's and offer a whole lot more and cost about $30 on average. I would imagine, $10 - $15 for their first year fits just about right.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
Quite a few people have said that the price of Alone is too high on here. It being the first year has nothing to do with it. If it is as good as Tampa, which is safe to assume it will be, then word of mouth will take care of the hesitation to pay.
And who is this 'we?' If you mean BGWFans, then I consider myself part of the 'we.' That struck a nerve there.
You're right about the shirt, but I would say that that idea would carry up from Tampa.
That's your opinion.
To me, walking to the top of Griffon is no big deal. I've done it on other coasters, so I'm not paying for it and it's not a deciding factor at all for me to pay for a tour. Same thing with a maintenance bay. For you, could be an experience you want, so you will pay for it.
But being in a house...at the caliber that Alone has been...having all the scaractors know my name...up in my face...and being alone at that...that's an experience I want and I'm willing to pay for. $10-$15 is way too low, and personally I would be concerned about the quality if that is the price they come at us with.
Party Rocker said:
Quite a few people have said that the price of Alone is too high on here. It being the first year has nothing to do with it. If it is as good as Tampa, which is safe to assume it will be, then word of mouth will take care of the hesitation to pay.
And who is this 'we?' If you mean BGWFans, then I consider myself part of the 'we.' That struck a nerve there.
You're right about the shirt, but I would say that that idea would carry up from Tampa.
Party Rocker said:
That's your opinion.
To me, walking to the top of Griffon is no big deal. I've done it on other coasters, so I'm not paying for it and it's not a deciding factor at all for me to pay for a tour. Same thing with a maintenance bay. For you, could be an experience you want, so you will pay for it.
But being in a house...at the caliber that Alone has been...having all the scaractors know my name...up in my face...and being alone at that...that's an experience I want and I'm willing to pay for. $10-$15 is way too low, and personally I would be concerned about the quality if that is the price they come at us with.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
It's not a bad deal really. I think only the coaster tour and the higher end tours offer pictures nowadays. If you get a shirt and a picture along with the alone experience, I'd be willing to pay $40. Provided the quality is as good as the Tampa one. I hope it's more like $30 though.
It's not a bad deal really. I think only the coaster tour and the higher end tours offer pictures nowadays. If you get a shirt and a picture along with the alone experience, I'd be willing to pay $40. Provided the quality is as good as the Tampa one. I hope it's more like $30 though.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
Party Rocker seems to be underestimating the quality. I suggest you read a review of Alone.
Party Rocker seems to be underestimating the quality. I suggest you read a review of Alone.
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
Just because Alone has supreme high end quality doesn't mean BGW can replicate or even do better than that house. Sorry, by "we" I was referring to the group of people that said $40 is way to high.
Let me explain my thinking like this:
1) This is the first year BGW would do an upcharge house. Being the first year has everything to do with it. They may not have a high end budget this year to construct a house as great as or better than Alone. In fact, it may be on par with Deadline. Just because one house did well in one area doesn't mean the same house will do just as great in another.
2) The free shirt and picture do make a difference, but how far is the park willing to go to get you in this house for $35 - $40? Personally, they may not even offer a free shirt or picture. If they don't, then $40 is definitely too high. This house would have to be extreme supreme quality. If they just offer a picture, I don't see that affecting the price much. If they offer just a shirt, I can see that adding $10 to the initial price. If they offer both, I could see that adding $15 to the initial price. The house alone I would say $20 maybe, with a shirt and picture $35 - $40.
3) Target audience is key for this house to work. What is the main crowd consist of during Howl-o-Scream? What kinds of crowds come to the park that time of year? This is the time of year when tourism starts to really die down. So you won't see too many tourists, and you end up with the locals and pass holders. The city and area itself isn't hot spot night life central, and that could be one of the reasons they stay so family friendly, but there is still a good group of the party life to appeal to. So with mostly families coming in, most of the them probably have season passes and probably about a very good part of those families are probably teenagers looking for good scares or parents out by themselves, its hard to say but I would guess not many of them will be looking to spend $40 on a house UNLESS it comes with more than just a 3-5 minute walk through. Thats when the shirts and pictures come in. Still do the have enough of the crowds and do those crowds have enough of their target audience to justify a high cost on a new experience that may turn out very bad and lousy?
4) Quality of the house does do a good job of determining a price, but does the park have enough money to go out on a limb and open a new house with supreme quality? And not just the quality of the house but the amount of possible scares in the house? Will they end up spending more than they make? I think with this house, if they do put their all into it, we will loose so much. The scare zones, shows, and houses besides this one will suffer a significant loss of funds and they loose their overall quality. I think the park would play it safe and open it with Deadline like quality and with a minimal price just to test the waters.
Overall, like I said, $15 - $20 is a good safe price. Remember how they started their full service restaurant? It really didn't change much for their regular restaurants, they just added a few basic things to make it into what it is, a good attempt but an overall fail. I think it may be similar with this. The house is going to be just a bit better than what they regularly come out with but it may not be as impressive as you think.
The concept may = WOW
The execution may = Disappointment
I'm just not trying to over hype this house for what it may be. Word of mouth is just too risky for them to do especially with a new concept they haven't tried before. I'm just saying its new for the park and they are probably just going to test the waters with it this year and if things look good, next year we will see some more better things. Look at Christmas Town, price was low when it started, it did well so price went up and the overall quality of the event went up.
Doesn't matter, by a whole lot more I specifically mean just that, more activities and more things going on.
- Going to the top of Griffon,
- Visiting 3 coasters maintenance areas,
- Riding 4 coasters once on tour,
- Riding all 4 again priority after the tour,
- A photo CD,
- and Free Preferred Parking
is just so much more. There is more going on, more activities, and more things you do and more things you get. Yes you may not be the target audience for this tour but it is still plenty to do for $65.
You want to be alone in a haunted house? Stand in line and be the first in it. I was the first person to go through Harvest Hollow one evening, yes it was more intense than when others were there, but if I can do the same with good planning, why the pay the extra price?
Just because Alone has supreme high end quality doesn't mean BGW can replicate or even do better than that house. Sorry, by "we" I was referring to the group of people that said $40 is way to high.
Let me explain my thinking like this:
1) This is the first year BGW would do an upcharge house. Being the first year has everything to do with it. They may not have a high end budget this year to construct a house as great as or better than Alone. In fact, it may be on par with Deadline. Just because one house did well in one area doesn't mean the same house will do just as great in another.
2) The free shirt and picture do make a difference, but how far is the park willing to go to get you in this house for $35 - $40? Personally, they may not even offer a free shirt or picture. If they don't, then $40 is definitely too high. This house would have to be extreme supreme quality. If they just offer a picture, I don't see that affecting the price much. If they offer just a shirt, I can see that adding $10 to the initial price. If they offer both, I could see that adding $15 to the initial price. The house alone I would say $20 maybe, with a shirt and picture $35 - $40.
3) Target audience is key for this house to work. What is the main crowd consist of during Howl-o-Scream? What kinds of crowds come to the park that time of year? This is the time of year when tourism starts to really die down. So you won't see too many tourists, and you end up with the locals and pass holders. The city and area itself isn't hot spot night life central, and that could be one of the reasons they stay so family friendly, but there is still a good group of the party life to appeal to. So with mostly families coming in, most of the them probably have season passes and probably about a very good part of those families are probably teenagers looking for good scares or parents out by themselves, its hard to say but I would guess not many of them will be looking to spend $40 on a house UNLESS it comes with more than just a 3-5 minute walk through. Thats when the shirts and pictures come in. Still do the have enough of the crowds and do those crowds have enough of their target audience to justify a high cost on a new experience that may turn out very bad and lousy?
4) Quality of the house does do a good job of determining a price, but does the park have enough money to go out on a limb and open a new house with supreme quality? And not just the quality of the house but the amount of possible scares in the house? Will they end up spending more than they make? I think with this house, if they do put their all into it, we will loose so much. The scare zones, shows, and houses besides this one will suffer a significant loss of funds and they loose their overall quality. I think the park would play it safe and open it with Deadline like quality and with a minimal price just to test the waters.
Overall, like I said, $15 - $20 is a good safe price. Remember how they started their full service restaurant? It really didn't change much for their regular restaurants, they just added a few basic things to make it into what it is, a good attempt but an overall fail. I think it may be similar with this. The house is going to be just a bit better than what they regularly come out with but it may not be as impressive as you think.
The concept may = WOW
The execution may = Disappointment
I'm just not trying to over hype this house for what it may be. Word of mouth is just too risky for them to do especially with a new concept they haven't tried before. I'm just saying its new for the park and they are probably just going to test the waters with it this year and if things look good, next year we will see some more better things. Look at Christmas Town, price was low when it started, it did well so price went up and the overall quality of the event went up.
RocketChk said:
Doesn't matter, by a whole lot more I specifically mean just that, more activities and more things going on.
- Going to the top of Griffon,
- Visiting 3 coasters maintenance areas,
- Riding 4 coasters once on tour,
- Riding all 4 again priority after the tour,
- A photo CD,
- and Free Preferred Parking
is just so much more. There is more going on, more activities, and more things you do and more things you get. Yes you may not be the target audience for this tour but it is still plenty to do for $65.
You want to be alone in a haunted house? Stand in line and be the first in it. I was the first person to go through Harvest Hollow one evening, yes it was more intense than when others were there, but if I can do the same with good planning, why the pay the extra price?
RE: Howl-O-Scream 2012 Rumors
You can go to spooky acres at Chesapeake square mall for $10, and they grab you, and get in your face, deffinately the scariest hh I've been in, so $40 is a bit ridicoulous in my mind
You can go to spooky acres at Chesapeake square mall for $10, and they grab you, and get in your face, deffinately the scariest hh I've been in, so $40 is a bit ridicoulous in my mind