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Disney's been talking off-and-on for years about building a historical American theme park somewhere in Virginia. The last I heard they were considering Manassas. I imagine that if Disney were "in talks" with Blackstone it would be regarding possible future competition.
 
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UnicornZiva said:
Disney's been talking off-and-on for years about building a historical American theme park somewhere in Virginia. The last I heard they were considering Manassas. I imagine that if Disney were "in talks" with Blackstone it would be regarding possible future competition.

Last I heard it was Williamsburg in like 1999. Manassas does have the space for a Disney park though, and Manassas does have the infrastructure to support it and prosper from it.
 
Ben said:
I thought that locals were mad because they were planning on building it so close to a civil war battlefield?

I believe it was simply that they didn't want their way of life effected so drastically - keep in mind that the area we now call Lake Buena Vista was just a wide spot in the road 45 years ago...
 
UnicornZiva said:
Disney's been talking off-and-on for years about building a historical American theme park somewhere in Virginia. The last I heard they were considering Manassas. I imagine that if Disney were "in talks" with Blackstone it would be regarding possible future competition.

Haberdasher1973 said:
Ben said:
I thought that locals were mad because they were planning on building it so close to a civil war battlefield?

I believe it was simply that they didn't want their way of life effected so drastically - keep in mind that the area we now call Lake Buena Vista was just a wide spot in the road 45 years ago...

Disney's America was planned to the point of ready to construct, just had to sign the dotted line. It was canned due to poor reception from locals and not wanting anything built in the area. They did not want a park, shops, eateries, nothing. A few years after they popped their head out of their bunghole and realized they needed to sell. There is a now a strip mall and Walmart on the exact plot that DA was planned to go. There are several well rounded writeups out there with articles cited and leaked concept art to view.

Nothing was talked about within Disney for WBurg; that was fanboi banter and wishful thinking. With the people I know rather well who are linked into the higher office of DIS I can say that with confidence; there is NOTHING in regards to buying BGW or a new park or anything of that sort in the slightest bit. DHS is about to get a slurry of money, DLR is about to get two new items that will cost a slurry of money. Guest relations knows nothing of these items and even it was going on they would not know nor comment on it. The longterm plan set forth by Blackstone does not reflect a buyout by anyone either.
 
Apollogeist said:
Disney Resort at Busch Gardens? Thats what im getting from this

I doubt that extremely. Maybe Disney's considering reviving America somewhere in VA, but a) there's no real evidence for that and b) no way would it be in Williamsburg. BG is already established, CW's got real history, KD is only a few hours away...I don't think there'd be any value in plopping another attraction in this area, even for an established name like Disney.
 
UnicornZiva said:
I doubt that extremely. Maybe Disney's considering reviving America somewhere in VA, but a) there's no real evidence for that and b) no way would it be in Williamsburg. BG is already established, CW's got real history, KD is only a few hours away...I don't think there'd be any value in plopping another attraction in this area, even for an established name like Disney.

They are not considering it in the farthest dreams of Rasulo or The Weatherman.
 
UnicornZiva said:
Maybe Disney's considering reviving America somewhere in VA, but a) there's no real evidence for that and b) no way would it be in Williamsburg.

Nope, no consideration at all. Disney America was former CEO Michael Eisner's pet project and he is long gone from the company.

The company is focused right now on other major projects - major expansion to HK Disneyland, a new DL park in Shanghai, and Avatar for DAK. If they build another park in this country it'll most likely be at the WDW Resort and it definitely wouldn't be a Disney America park.
 
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Unagi said:
Nope, no consideration at all. Disney America was former CEO Michael Eisner's pet project and he is long gone from the company.

The company is focused right now on other major projects - major expansion and Avatar for DAK. If they build another park in this country it'll most likely be at the WDW Resort and it definitely wouldn't be a Disney America park.


Wrong. Avatar is pretty much stalled to a stand still going nowhere fast. WDW has zero plans of a fifth gate and you would see a third at DLR before WDW. DLP was the ultimate demise of Disney's America btw; not the locals in Va.


Haberdasher1973 said:
...and for those who may have missed the flurry of articles in September, Disney is cutting expenditures 'significantly' in 2013.

Take that with a grain of salt. They are cutting significantly from the 2011/2012 levels which was stupid high. There are items headed to both parks + Shanghai's work which is ready to go vertical... since they havent yet.
 
Atlantis said:
Haberdasher1973 said:
...and for those who may have missed the flurry of articles in September, Disney is cutting expenditures 'significantly' in 2013.

Take that with a grain of salt. They are cutting significantly from the 2011/2012 levels which was stupid high. There are items headed to both parks + Shanghai's work which is ready to go vertical... since they havent yet.

I posted it to say that an entire new property in VA is highly unlikely, no more.
 
Haberdasher1973 said:
I posted it to say that I doubt an entire new property in VA is highly unlikely, no more.

Yes yes, of course. That was directed more to others not knowing than to you, sir. I know you are on the right track. ;)
 
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It's good to hear the Avatar thing stalled out. Hopefully it'll never happen. Despite it being the most successful movie ever made, I just don't think that universe has legs as a cult property...the kind of following that would justify millions of dollars req'd to build a theme park expansion based on it. I mean, before anybody jumps down my throat, let me clarify here:

No single Potter film made nearly as much as Avatar did at the Box Office...but we all know good and well that there are more HP fans out there than Avatar fans. There are more people out there buying Potter merch, following Potter news, declaring themselves Potter fanatics, writing Potter songs, writing Potter fanfiction etc., etc., etc. In this case judging Avatar to be a major hit, worthy of a sustainable theme park attraction at DISNEY, solely by it's box office take would probably be a mistake.
 
Doc Dollars said:
the kind of following that would justify millions of dollars req'd to build a theme park expansion based on it. I mean, before anybody jumps down my throat, let me clarify here:

Millions is an understatement. It is inching closer to the billion mark that Cameron desires. TDO naturally laughed at that, Cameron is not budging, Cameron went MIA to work on the stalled new movies, excitement is next to none on the land, and the plot for the new movies is growing to more and more anti-US anti-human OMGSH WE ARE TEH DEMONz type of deal. I agree with you completely; DAK needs something fresh and new but Avatar is not it. It is/was nothing more than The Weatherman's ego seeing big numbers from Box Office causing him to have arousal in naughty areas over it.

Doc Dollars said:
No single Potter film made nearly as much as Avatar did at the Box Office...but we all know good and well that there are more HP fans out there than Avatar fans. There are more people out there buying Potter merch, following Potter news, declaring themselves Potter fanatics, writing Potter songs, writing Potter fanfiction etc., etc., etc. In this case judging Avatar to be a major hit, worthy of a sustainable theme park attraction at DISNEY, solely by it's box office take would probably be a mistake.

Exactly, fan following is not there. DVD/BluRay sales for NakedBluePeople have been significantly lower than anticipated and if you pulled the IMAX and 3D pricing out of NakedBluePeople's take then it is a stark reality that it didn't really sell that many stubs. Having a franchise that develops a following like Hairy Potter, Star Wars, Indiana, and even the current Superhero line(hence the new ride going into DLR) is not what NakeBluePeople is. There is no hype or real energetic discussion about the next films; that's an issue. An ego trip by the glorified accountant running the company is the sole reason it has made it as far as it has.

Well said post.
 
UnicornZiva said:
Apollogeist said:
Disney Resort at Busch Gardens? Thats what im getting from this

I doubt that extremely. Maybe Disney's considering reviving America somewhere in VA, but a) there's no real evidence for that and b) no way would it be in Williamsburg. BG is already established, CW's got real history, KD is only a few hours away...I don't think there'd be any value in plopping another attraction in this area, even for an established name like Disney.

I know of around 350 acres in Doswell that needs a major rehab.
 
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