And that .03% is only for children who even get it, AND exhibit symptoms to the point they need a test, especially when it’s theorized that most people have gotten it and simply been asymptotic, so the number is likely much much lower.
COVID-19’s Impacts on BGW
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But regardless of the data, there is a psychological game to be played with customers. I have no trepidation about taking my unvaccinated 9-year-old daughter anywhere, but plenty of people do have that anxiety, and that's why the "ripping the band-aid-off" approach is a bit surprising.
For now, Cedar Point is keeping their social-distancing and indoor masks. Time will tell how long those measures stick around, but I would think it wise to take a stepwise approach (i.e., start with no out door masks).
For now, Cedar Point is keeping their social-distancing and indoor masks. Time will tell how long those measures stick around, but I would think it wise to take a stepwise approach (i.e., start with no out door masks).
Yeah, SEAS should definitely drop the outdoor masks but they should stick with the indoor for a couple weeks at least, even though there really aren’t any indoor queues except for like 10 yards of verbolten
I hope the practice of social distancing in lines sticks around. As a card carrying member of “respect my private space” the nicest thing about this has been to not have someone so close to me in line that I know what they had for lunch three days ago.
Idk why people still complain about wearing masks at BGW. If you don't wanna wear one, just buy a beer. That's what I did.
(I was fully vaccinated at the time, please oh great dislike button smashers show me mercy)
(I was fully vaccinated at the time, please oh great dislike button smashers show me mercy)
Yes, this. @Mushroom, I get what you’re saying about the risks, but it’s a matter of effectively FORCING that risk assessment onto parents, many of whom may have already booked trips for the coming months. It’s less that I think the environment at a park like BGW would be a high-risk environment for kids, and more that I’m surprised any park would be willing to create the IMPRESSION of risk at a time when there’s really no other alternative.
And honestly, as someone who is childless, I don’t think I can really say how comforting I would find those numbers if I thought about the idea of my child being the .03%.
^^-- " He used cotton swabs and petri dishes to test the bacteria content at both campus water fountains and toilets and found that the water fountains had way more bacteria than the toilets."
Just don't use cotton swabs to drink out of water fountains and you should be OK. Is there some reason he couldn't test the water output?
Just don't use cotton swabs to drink out of water fountains and you should be OK. Is there some reason he couldn't test the water output?
It's more to do with contact to the surface I'd guess. I think even the Mythbusters crew did a similar experiment where it showed toilet seats surprisingly are usually less likely to have a crapload of germs on them - of course, they kinda cherry-picked their sources.
But really, besides maybe a kid or two, who actually sticks their mouth on the faucet end of a fountain?
Anyways, still a fan of the idea of a bottle filler fountain installation everywhere. The park could even sell special bottles or, in the interest of charging for everything (not that I think they should), create a contactless system to pay for using these fillers instead of waiting in line for a water cup.
This was an interesting tidbit I picked up from a friend who did a similar study, but added in the frequency at which these things were cleaned, and his conclusion was the perceived sanitation level of water fountains means they were cleaned on certain areas (like water outlet) less frequently than the perceived sanitation level of toilet seats (cleaned quite regularly). So due to regular cleaning the toilet seats come out much cleaner than water fountains.
Of course part of the issue from water fountains is some of the bacteria is from water, and the toilet seat is all from peoples asses.
You would be shocked.... But the issue here is the buildup on the parts of the fountains you can't see.
I worried far more about my mother, aunts/uncles, and in-laws who were over 50/60 and at high risk then I did about my kids. The stats and studies showed kids were a low risk group for COVID so it’s not worth worrying too much about them. Honestly kids do so many stupid things and are risk in other ways that you are better off prioritizing more major risks that do commonly occur - e.g. getting in a car accident, getting hit riding their bike, falling from a high ledge, childhood diseases, etc.
As a parent taking kids to BGW, the most dangerous time for them is the drive to/from the park. Staying sober and attentive while driving is more important than worrying about a low probability event (catching COVID largely outside) that even if it happened has a very low probability of harm to them.
Did they cherry pick? I saw that episode but it was so long ago the only thing I remember is that it was horrifying. I thought they did an experiment where they kept one toothbrush on the back of the toilet and one in the kitchen (or some other non-bathroom location) and in the test they found fecal matter on both. How does that happen? Is fecal matter just everywhere? ?
I thought that they only tested a staff bathroom meaning it has limited use and also likely has more people cleaning up after themselves than your standard public restroom.
As far as fecal matter, I've heard that toilet flushing aerosolizes it so it spreads everywhere in proximity, but not sure if that's true or not. Of course if you're worried about it you can buy all sorts of tools for keeping things like your toothbrush clean.
While that true it's also true that some autoimmune diseases lie dormant in children only to pop up once they hit papery or even later. Imagine having one of those kids and them contracting Covid at the park and suddenly they are fighting both a bad case of Covid and the disease being triggered leading to a battle gfor their life.
I realize this really is a deeply unlikely scenario but I think some of us don’t understand the layers of trauma that people have gone through over the course of the pandemic, and that’s not converging with the general concerns parents have about their kids’ health and making this less an issue of probability and more an issue of possibility. That’s why parks and businesses going to “vaccinated people don’t have to wear masks at all” are, in my view, underestimating the level of pushback this will get.
NOOOO Johnny is such a disappointment, he turned into A4, but were an 8.5x11 family....