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The best way to think about their decision making here is what each section of the park gets them as an opportunity to make money, with the understanding that daily ticket prices will be lower than normal and a lot of their attendance will come from members who aren't going to question the perceived value of the visit compared to someone considering buying a single admission for what we all acknowledge would be a lesser experience.

England gets you shopping and dining (and theoretically the theater, although if they're going to do distanced entertainment they'll open France), while Scotland gets you the stables, a coaster with an extended outdoor queue for distancing, and the train (if they want to run it as a loop a la Christmas Town, although they have an exit through the gift shop problem). Ireland, meanwhile, gives you the newest attraction in the park with Finnegan's, more shopping, and a bit of space to do food stalls since they're going to have social distancing issues at normal venues.

France would get you the outdoor amphitheater and a larger coaster draw. Italy gets you a water ride. The question is which of these do they think adds value and also adds cash opportunities.

I hear that the park may operate 3 or 4 days a week and only be open in the evening.

Not sure where this is coming from, but it tracks with this logic (although I feel like they would want to be open during the day on weekends to appeal to families, although I highly doubt they open Sesame staffing-wise). Their goal is not to create a full-day park experience. Their goal is to create a situation where people see the park as a destination for a night out, where you'll go on a ride or two, eat some food, maybe enjoy some entertainment, see the animals, and then perhaps grab a COVID-themed souvenir on the way out. If they can reduce staff costs enough to get the admission fee down to sub-Christmas Town levels, the hope would be that you could get somewhere close to the average visitor spend (I think it's somewhere between $25-30), that's a way to create cash flow and "prove" their safety policies are working/being enforced.

Is this something there's actually a market for outside of members? Do MEMBERS want this? These are all questions it's hard to answer, but I have to think the park has either done some consumer surveys or feels like it's worth the risk (again, if this even materializes).
 
1000 guests =/= 1000 vehicles, right?

So assuming there were 2 people in each car, that makes 500 cars. But more likely you'd see 300-400 or so due to families/friends riding together.

Which means the England lot wouldn't need to open to support the amount of traffic - which means cost savings because that's less setup and staff needed to execute.
You can't assume those levels sure there are going to be more then on person per car on average but you can't assume it's going to be that low. Logistics wise the park would probably be working in the 600-700 car range to to be safe. I guess probably closer to 400-500 will actually be there but you want some room for error and idiot parking in your math. I am not sure once you take out the handicap parking what the space count in the first lot is so that might work or it might be to tight. Regardless the Germany lot would work even if they didn't run the tram and had people walk. Also I wonder if given the reduced capacity if they could temporarily remove the handicapped requirement from SOME of those spaces.
 
You can't assume those levels sure there are going to be more then on person per car on average but you can't assume it's going to be that low. Logistics wise the park would probably be working in the 600-700 car range to to be safe. I guess probably closer to 400-500 will actually be there but you want some room for error and idiot parking in your math. I am not sure once you take out the handicap parking what the space count in the first lot is so that might work or it might be to tight. Regardless the Germany lot would work even if they didn't run the tram and had people walk. Also I wonder if given the reduced capacity if they could temporarily remove the handicapped requirement from SOME of those spaces.

Most places would operate in the assumption on 1.7 guests per vehicle. ADA laws is what would prevent them from taking away some handicap spaces, even temporarily.

I think using the Germany lot for parking, walk up to temp check, distanced bag check, etc in the France lot. Then proceed down to the gate to get in. Direct handicap and premium parking to the England lot on a very limited basis. Take the far end to do a small scale version. Those people enter at the gate news Castle OSullivan.
 
Most places would operate in the assumption on 1.7 guests per vehicle. ADA laws is what would prevent them from taking away some handicap spaces, even temporarily.

I think using the Germany lot for parking, walk up to temp check, distanced bag check, etc in the France lot. Then proceed down to the gate to get in. Direct handicap and premium parking to the England lot on a very limited basis. Take the far end to do a small scale version. Those people enter at the gate news Castle OSullivan.
ADA requires a certain number per capacity as long as the kept enough to comply with the 1,000 figure they should be ok on that end.
 
The best way to think about their decision making here is what each section of the park gets them as an opportunity to make money, with the understanding that daily ticket prices will be lower than normal and a lot of their attendance will come from members who aren't going to question the perceived value of the visit compared to someone considering buying a single admission for what we all acknowledge would be a lesser experience.

England gets you shopping and dining (and theoretically the theater, although if they're going to do distanced entertainment they'll open France), while Scotland gets you the stables, a coaster with an extended outdoor queue for distancing, and the train (if they want to run it as a loop a la Christmas Town, although they have an exit through the gift shop problem). Ireland, meanwhile, gives you the newest attraction in the park with Finnegan's, more shopping, and a bit of space to do food stalls since they're going to have social distancing issues at normal venues.

France would get you the outdoor amphitheater and a larger coaster draw. Italy gets you a water ride. The question is which of these do they think adds value and also adds cash opportunities.



Not sure where this is coming from, but it tracks with this logic (although I feel like they would want to be open during the day on weekends to appeal to families, although I highly doubt they open Sesame staffing-wise). Their goal is not to create a full-day park experience. Their goal is to create a situation where people see the park as a destination for a night out, where you'll go on a ride or two, eat some food, maybe enjoy some entertainment, see the animals, and then perhaps grab a COVID-themed souvenir on the way out. If they can reduce staff costs enough to get the admission fee down to sub-Christmas Town levels, the hope would be that you could get somewhere close to the average visitor spend (I think it's somewhere between $25-30), that's a way to create cash flow and "prove" their safety policies are working/being enforced.

Is this something there's actually a market for outside of members? Do MEMBERS want this? These are all questions it's hard to answer, but I have to think the park has either done some consumer surveys or feels like it's worth the risk (again, if this even materializes).
There gonna be no entertainment they have very few animals now gave them away looking for a new home for the horses prolly no scare zones and houses at HOS so that leaves rides and food.
 
My in-laws and son drove past there the other day and said they saw movement and ride testing. I told my son not to get his hopes up, but after seeing this post I'm a little bit more intrigued.
 
Does the 1,000 people limit include employees?
I'm not sure, I know Langley speedway has the same 1000 capacity but are doing sellouts at either 700 or 750 and the remaining numbers are drivers, crew, concessions, officials, etc. I was wondering the same with BGW myself.
 
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Does the 1,000 people limit include employees?

I was under the impression that one of the main issues with parks fully opening in Phase 3 was because employees DO count as part of the 1,000 person limit, meaning way less that 1,000 guests would be in the park at once.
 
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They could have one employee. They'd take your ticket, then run to a ride and operate it. Then run to another ride, then go back and take a ticket. Repeat. Capacity 999.
 
There gonna be no entertainment they have very few animals now gave them away looking for a new home for the horses prolly no scare zones and houses at HOS so that leaves rides and food.
I wouldn't say they have away all their animals. The only animals that should be gone are the pet shenanigans animals. They were never ones that the park actually owned anyway. They were all from an outside contractor. The rest the park owns and hasn't gotten rid of them and isn't looking to get rid of them to my knowledge.

As far as entertainment you are correct they will likely have none at least for a while. And HOS seems likely to be just decor and not much else.
 
I got an email today that was advertising BGW was having a Christmas sale. Kind of makes me believe they are giving up on this season and trying to dump dated merchandise. Do you really think they are going to open? I just don't see how a 1000 person limit could even remotely be cost effective for them. There was an interview yesterday with Gov Northam and he seemed "on the fence" about going back to Phase 2. Sorry but I just don't see BGW opening anytime soon.
 
I wouldn't say they have away all their animals. The only animals that should be gone are the pet shenanigans animals. They were never ones that the park actually owned anyway. They were all from an outside contractor. The rest the parka also have zero sgoesand they at tampowns and hasn't gotten rid of them and isn't looking to get rid of them to my knowledge.

As far as entertainment you are correct they will likely have none at least for a while. And HOS seems likely to be just decor and not much else.
You look
 
So I drove the extra 5 minutes to pass the park this afternoon and there is definitely work being done. There is now something that looks like a fence across the pathway by the pet kennels blocking it. That was NOT there yesterday. There also is more being done in front of the ticket booths. The only real conclusion that I can come up with is that they are planning on some sort of opening in the not to distant future.
 
I was under the impression that one of the main issues with parks fully opening in Phase 3 was because employees DO count as part of the 1,000 person limit, meaning way less that 1,000 guests would be in the park at once.
1,000 patrons is the wording so employees should not count toward that if the wording the is on VDH's website is correct.
 

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