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When I got there Thursday around 5pm they were putting everyone in VIP again.

Honestly I don't see the point of the VIP parking lot. The walk isn't really noticeably shorter and I have to stand in line at guest services or walk all the way back up the hill to get my food sample tickets.

I much prefer to park on the France lot.
 
When I got there Thursday around 5pm they were putting everyone in VIP again.

Honestly I don't see the point of the VIP parking lot. The walk isn't really noticeably shorter and I have to stand in line at guest services or walk all the way back up the hill to get my food sample tickets.

I much prefer to park on the France lot.
It’s the same now, but come summer and the return of the masses, England will be where it’s at.
 
Oh, for normal operations I agree.

I meant I don't see the point paying $50 for the current situation.
I have a feeling it's gearing up for Memorial day and beyond. Cut parking in France and put everyone in the lower lots and make them WALK up the tramway. I bet they make a killing on VIP at that point. But then again maybe I should get the tinfoil off my head.
 
I have a feeling it's gearing up for Memorial day and beyond. Cut parking in France and put everyone in the lower lots and make them WALK up the tramway. I bet they make a killing on VIP at that point. But then again maybe I should get the tinfoil off my head.
Watch on June 16, France is closed to everyone, England lot is $200, and Germany is preferred, oh and the Ireland? Grass lot is general
 
There’s VIP parking? I wasn’t sure they were doing that since you can only park in England and France, both which are very close to the park. It doesn’t seem like there’s much point in this, or am I missing something?

1) People who are rich and lazy and know the park well don’t want to walk from France (or, if France is full, Germany).

2) People who are rich and don’t know the park well might think there is a much larger distinction between England and the other lots and part with their money without doing further research.

3) If people have mobility issues, avoiding the hill is potentially enough of a difference.
 
I don't know what's going on with ride operations, but just about every ride we went on yesterday had very SLOW operations. We got in line for Alpengeist and it looked like about a 10 minute wait based on experience. 45 minutes later we finally got off the ride as they were basically taking about 5 minutes between trains and often not even loading until the other train had already returned back. There was a lot of grumbling in line about how slow everything was moving. This was also our experience at Verbolten, Invadr, and Finnigans. Griffon was closed most the day and Apollo's was decent speed, though nowhere close to optimal. Just about everything was multi-minute waits even once restraints were checked. They may as well have been running single train operations for as slow as everything moved as you had to sit on the brake runs for several minutes waiting on the other train(s) to clear out.
 
So kinda BGW related, kinda industry wide related, but all industries are struggling to fill out positions. As many companies lost some overhead through the pandemic, they’ve been more than willing to hire extra people to work from home. I heard one person that has a business say that he hired twice as many summer interns as usual because they are all working from home. So if they and other companies are hiring more that’s going to have a huge impact.
 
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I don't know what's going on with ride operations, but just about every ride we went on yesterday had very SLOW operations. We got in line for Alpengeist and it looked like about a 10 minute wait based on experience. 45 minutes later we finally got off the ride as they were basically taking about 5 minutes between trains and often not even loading until the other train had already returned back. There was a lot of grumbling in line about how slow everything was moving. This was also our experience at Verbolten, Invadr, and Finnigans. Griffon was closed most the day and Apollo's was decent speed, though nowhere close to optimal. Just about everything was multi-minute waits even once restraints were checked. They may as well have been running single train operations for as slow as everything moved as you had to sit on the brake runs for several minutes waiting on the other train(s) to clear out.

I wasn't riding any coasters yesterday, but I noticed the crew on Griffon being very slow the past few weeks. They talk a lot with the guests on the train, asking about birthdays and do trivia games making everyone sit on the train strapped in waiting to start for what feels way too long.

I don't mind the crew having some fun while the restraints are being checked, but it shouldn't slow down operations.
 
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I wasn't riding any coasters yesterday, but I noticed the crew on Griffon being very slow the past few weeks. They talk a lot with the guests on the train, asking about birthdays and do trivia games making everyone sit on the train strapped in waiting to start for what feels way too long.

I don't mind the crew having some fun while the restraints are being checked, but it shouldn't slow down operations.
BGW has been pushing for new employees on Social media lately, so hopefully come 6/15 they can have the park ready for an influx.
 
There was quite bit of noticeable training going on, but the slow pace seemed to have little to do with that. It looked closer to purposeful slow work, though I’d be surprised if this were actually the case.
 
Not having been there, I would guess it was either training or there was an unseen maintenance issue at some of the rides where slow cycling was necessary - can't think of what they could possibly be affecting multiple rides but at least Griffon's crew was trying to lighten the mood.
 
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Just to make sure I understand correctly:
If this happened, Busch Gardens would be fully open to the public, no reservations required. There also wouldn’t be social distancing, and only masks would still be enforced.

Hypothetical questions:
1. I’m guessing that BGW would still have to check for temperatures, though?
2. Does this mean we could expect a more normal HOS, not Halloween Harvest?

good luck enforcing the mask horsecrap. Especially in 90 degree heat when it’s hard enough to walk outside up the hills of the beautiful park. If people want to wear it wear it, which would be a bigger health risk than ever in that summer heat, but don’t go after the ones that don’t want to wear one. It should be an optional choice.
 
Right now, the only real sector moving toward requiring the vaccine is colleges, and even then it’s not really clear how this policy will be enforced. When the FDA authorization moves from emergency to “fully authorized,” I expect colleges, military, etc. will move on enforcement, but until then it’s going to function as more of a strong suggestion.

I don’t foresee BGW entering into this space: there just isn’t a justifiable reason, with a primarily outdoor park. The whole industry is going to have to figure out the timing of when to move from masks to masks indoors to distancing but no masks to “back to normal” over the next 6-8 months. And while encouraging vaccination is in their best interest to GET to that normal, requiring it feels outside of their public image to me.

“Buy one ticket, get one free if you’re vaccinated” might be the only thing I can think of that might work for the park to push vaccination without requiring it.
Should be “buy one, get one free for making your own responsible decisions for your body”, not a marketing ploy to try to get someone vaccinated.
 
good luck enforcing the mask horsecrap. Especially in 90 degree heat when it’s hard enough to walk outside up the hills of the beautiful park. If people want to wear it wear it, which would be a bigger health risk than ever in that summer heat, but don’t go after the ones that don’t want to wear one. It should be an optional choice.

Honestly, I don't understand the dislike reacts your post received. With reports of Northam ending a substantial amount of COVID restrictions next month - coupled with the fact that he already permits patrons to visit outdoor facilities without wearing masks - and also coupled with the continually increasing vaccination rates in Virginia - I don't see why there's a problem with your suggestion that the park makes masks optional this summer.
 
Masks work (read: not horsecrap).

Masks were required all last summer at open parks all over the country—many of which are in hotter areas than BGW.

Masks are far and away most efficacious when worn to prevent droplet transmission from the wearer.

Wearing a mask at BGW is optional. You are not required to attend BGW. You can go and wear a mask or you can not go and not wear a mask. Freedom!
 
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The number of people willing to commit the multiple federal crimes required to obtain and present a fake vaccine card just to enter a theoretical vaccine-restricted Busch Gardens Williamsburg is incredibly small. Creating policy to thwart such a miniscule group is a frivolous endeavor, particularly when essentially everyone else in the park would be protected from them since everyone else would be vaccinated.

Also, people take non-water-safe items to parks constantly. BGW's passes (unless you pay to upgrade them) aren't water-safe. Lockers, ziplock bags, non-riders—there are a million and one widely used methods to remedy that slight and rare inconvenience.

If BGW wanted to implement something like this, I believe that vaccine cards are a perfectly reasonable way to approach such a policy (as demonstrated by California). It seems to me that the bigger barrier to something like this right now is the lack of available vaccines for kids.
Hi Zachary,
Any chance I could message you directly or speak directly to you about the current park atmosphere and environment ? Thanks
 
Honestly, I don't understand the dislike reacts your post received. With reports of Northam ending a substantial amount of COVID restrictions next month - coupled with the fact that he already permits patrons to visit outdoor facilities without wearing masks - and also coupled with the continually increasing vaccination rates in Virginia - I don't see why there's a problem with your suggestion that the park makes masks optional this summer.
That’s my point, masks should be optional.
 
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