Busch isn't a health care provider. HIPAA doesn't apply to them in any way shape or form.
COVID-19’s Impacts on BGW
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Cedar Point is already moving in the maskless direction I am sure their will be many eyes on that to see how it is viewed by the general public.
As an incentive I think this is a great idea. But I do wonder what sorts of lawsuits it would prompt.
I imagine not many.
Although it makes me think of the joke the doctor made during my dads bypass:
Get three get the fourth at full price!
I vaguely remember my (public) university (in Virginia) having some vaccination requirements for admission - unless I'm mistaken or the rules have completely changed why wouldn't universities enforce vaccination to permit on-campus classes to resume?
As how that relates to the park, I feel like that would be a big boost in guest confidence that much of the summer workforce and lots of guests themselves are also vaccinated.
As how that relates to the park, I feel like that would be a big boost in guest confidence that much of the summer workforce and lots of guests themselves are also vaccinated.
The "Emergency Authorization" factor. For example, the military routinely jabs people with needles without barely even telling them what's in them, but the lack of formal FDA authorization means they're either not allowed or not willing to make it mandatory (unlike, for example, the flu vaccine). Once the Emergency part of the authorization is lifted, though, it's expected that it would be enforced.
For universities, it's more a question of whether the distinct politicization of this particular vaccine—which is absurd and dumb, but very real—might make that a touchier subject than other vaccines. I do think we'll see some level of enforcement, but what exactly that looks like may not be as strict as it might be with other vaccines.
Unless mandated to by the government, BGW has absolutely no incentive to require vaccinations. The points about protecting those who can't get vaccinated are well taken, but only from a public health perspective. From BGW's perspective as a theme park and a business, they have no reason to assume that social responsibility for themselves.
As far as BGW is concerned, as vaccines become widely available, if a guest chooses not to get vaccinated, that's on them. Those who are vaccinated are protected anyway. If the government feels public health is still at risk, it's up to them to impose that restriction.
tl;dr BGW has no reason to voluntarily implement vaccine requirements when their one goal is to make money.
As far as BGW is concerned, as vaccines become widely available, if a guest chooses not to get vaccinated, that's on them. Those who are vaccinated are protected anyway. If the government feels public health is still at risk, it's up to them to impose that restriction.
tl;dr BGW has no reason to voluntarily implement vaccine requirements when their one goal is to make money.
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I generally agree, but in my opinion there's a massive asterisk there too.
If parks are allowed to operate inside the gates without any COVID precautions (attendance caps, masking, social distancing, etc) if everyone in attendance is vaccinated, it could quickly become a very good business decision to do so.
This would, of course, still require a change in VDH policy, but it's worth fielding the possibility it could happen.
Good points but I dont think that it will be put out as "if everyone in attendance is vaccinated" but more like the Orange County Mayor said today and it being a percentage of local or state population then the restrictions will be completely lifted. BGW will probably do just what they have to meet state or JCC requirements and no more. They may keep mask requirements for a certain perioud but I really dont see them adding any new regulations such a vaccine records requirement.
Like I stated earlier: I don’t think we’re ever going to hit this minimum immunity threshold that we need to be at for things to be “normal”. Between anti-vaxxers, science deniers, political extremists (I know people on both sides refusing to take it), and just the outright assholes about it, we almost can’t hit that 80% number they’ve talked about.
I think the best we’re going to get is to a place where laws protect companies from lawsuits on COVID contraction (I know one side is really against this), and allow insurance companies to chose not to cover COVID if you don’t get the vaccine or and added premium for coverage should you choose to not get it.
The more I think about it the more difficult a vaccine passport is for day to day use. That would mean companies having to work with the federal government on a way to track them, having the checkpoints to check them, and having the staff to check.
In most cases that job will be held by a HS/college kid and a misstep can cause the business issues. Plus that puts that kid in position to have to decline someone entry. If I were a parent of a teen/young adult, I wouldn’t want to put them in that position so I wouldn’t want them to take that job.
For companies that means having to pay a high rate to hire adults to work that job, possibly people with security or law enforcement backgrounds which can get very expensive.
I think the best we’re going to get is to a place where laws protect companies from lawsuits on COVID contraction (I know one side is really against this), and allow insurance companies to chose not to cover COVID if you don’t get the vaccine or and added premium for coverage should you choose to not get it.
The more I think about it the more difficult a vaccine passport is for day to day use. That would mean companies having to work with the federal government on a way to track them, having the checkpoints to check them, and having the staff to check.
In most cases that job will be held by a HS/college kid and a misstep can cause the business issues. Plus that puts that kid in position to have to decline someone entry. If I were a parent of a teen/young adult, I wouldn’t want to put them in that position so I wouldn’t want them to take that job.
For companies that means having to pay a high rate to hire adults to work that job, possibly people with security or law enforcement backgrounds which can get very expensive.
I mean, again, it's hard to say a vaccine passport system can't work when we see California having already mandated one for all out of state park visitors. It can work.
Is it likely at BGW? Probably not unless VDH policy changes to incentivize or mandate it.
Is it likely at BGW? Probably not unless VDH policy changes to incentivize or mandate it.
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I really have no strong opinion on this, but I’m not sure how this is any different than requiring them to check IDs to serve alcohol or to enforce dress code requirements.
I don’t disagree, and I was thinking more widespread than just BGW in the potential staffing issues it could create along with the way some people react.
I'm a teacher and my job tracks which of its employees have had the vaccine and which haven't.
First time back to the park since the panorama and it was better than expected. Lines were very manageable (besides Verbolten - still not double loading...) and Food & Wine booths didn't look too bad.
But my GOD, I want vaccine passports for the park because 35-40% of people don't wear their masks correctly and it drove me a little crazy.
But my GOD, I want vaccine passports for the park because 35-40% of people don't wear their masks correctly and it drove me a little crazy.
I'd be shocked it we see Verbolten double-loading at all this season, to be honest: the idea of surplus staff to improve capacity just doesn't seem likely under the current staffing circumstances.
It was actually double loading a few weeks back. On the 2nd day of pantheon testing the 2nd Half actually
They were training a lot of folks at Verbolten today, so I'm still keeping my fingers and toes crossed (but expecting it to stay like this). Thank goodness for the platinum one-quick-queue perk because I think I'll be using it there every time (if Pantheon isn't included).
Facts... They are also not shy of jabbing innocent contractors who are minding their own business not getting in the way or nothing with needles. If you stand still long enough at medical in... oh just picking at random... Bahrain, they may poke you with an... I don't know Anthrax series, or Small Pox, or plague, or malaria... really just because they can... In theory... Not that I have experienced this first hand or anything... just saying... you know it could happen... In Bahrain.. in the Aughts... to an innocent IT Contractor... not for nothing... it is possible...
Do you at least see them coming, or do they discreetly walk by, jab you with a needle while you’re in the middle of a work day, and keep walking?