COVID-19 & Coasters: Coronavirus Impacts on the Amusement Industry

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It's not just Republicans, it's not just Floridians, it's all over. The country remains divided. I follow the rules, but I think lots of people are done with it. The American conscience doesn't seem to be able to focus on one thing for very long anymore and I think loads of people are moving on. It could be a terrible mistake, but to lots of people life is about the here and now.
I would guess the people out and about at risky places now are the ones with the most cavalier attitudes towards things, but I'm getting a sense the tides if public option are shifting from most interactions I've had. My mom excluded. This past week I've had at least 10 people tell me "I'm over it, I'm ready to get together". I think it's unfair to act like SeaWorld is the only place with this happening.
 

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Nicole said:
@WDWRLD: your position seems to be that the reporting @Zachary cited is questionable because it doesn’t match your preconceived notions and/or view of how you wish things were. You personal and limited experience is hardly evidence that an established site is peddling misleading pictures. Conspiracy theories are not valid or intellectually rigorous evidence.
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Whatever.....
 
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One comment is that only one person is wearing a mask. Went through enlargements for another round of Where's Elmo and couldn't find one. If necessary, have a member of their party get in the picture holding one up to make it believable. Or drop one on the ground. Sloppy.
 
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tursiops said:
It's not just Republicans, it's not just Floridians, it's all over. The country remains divided. I follow the rules, but I think lots of people are done with it. The American conscience doesn't seem to be able to focus on one thing for very long anymore and I think loads of people are moving on. It could be a terrible mistake, but to lots of people life is about the here and now.
I would guess the people out and about at risky places now are the ones with the most cavalier attitudes towards things, but I'm getting a sense the tides if public option are shifting from most interactions I've had. My mom excluded. This past week I've had at least 10 people tell me "I'm over it, I'm ready to get together". I think it's unfair to act like SeaWorld is the only place with this happening.
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The disappointment with this is that Universal is already open and they’ve been doing absolutely amazing when it comes to enforcing the rules. You need to keep in mind masks were supposed to be REQUIRED when entering the park. This just shows that BGT’s staff just don’t give a rat’s ass, and it’s worrying if the incompetency is chain wide.
 
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The disappointment with this is that Universal is already open and they’ve been doing absolutely amazing when it comes to enforcing the rules. You need to keep in mind masks were supposed to be REQUIRED when entering the park. This just shows that BGT’s staff just don’t give a rat’s ass, and it’s worrying if the incompetency is chain wide.
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If you watch the comments out of Universal every day you seem to hear more people not wearing them. The Passholder days seemed everyone was following the rules but since there are more and more not. I will be at WDW, BGT, Seaworld and Universal in the next couple weeks so it will be interesting to see whats really going on.
 
A couple of things to keep in mind:
1. This is all new for BGT employees. They will learn to be firmer with instructing guests to follow the rules. This was only day 1, and, unlike US, they did not get a preview day (which, from reports, was easier for US staff than the GP).
2. US (and WDW especially, though they aren't open, yet) have a culture among the staff of strict crowd control. This results in them having an easier learning curve enforcing the rules. BG never really had the need for the staff to have such a culture; WDW and US crowds have much greater need for it.

I would give it a couple of days to see how management instructs employees to get the guests to follow the rules.

But, the reality is, there is only so much they can do. If masses of guests just take the masks off after passing through the gates.... They can ask guests to put the mask on, but, they can't stop the guests from taking them off as soon as the staff walks away.
 
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Thanks @Nicole , that's the point I was trying to make. For right or wrong (I'm not making that ruling) it's a real thing. A month ago most people I know talked very different than they do now.
 
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Zachary said:
They can treat it like the health and safety issue that it is and security can escort people who refuse to comply out of the park.
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If it's just a few people... yes, but to a point. Say the guests says, "sorry, forgot to put it back on after my drink of water," and puts it right on. They aren't going to call security every time this happens. Employee walks away, and the guest takes it off again. This is, essentially, the same issue they have with enforcing the no smoking rules.

But, if 90% of the guests refuse to wear masks as was reported..... well, I'm not sure how they can enforce that.
 
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PrincessArlenasDad said:
But, if 90% of the guests refuse to wear masks as was reported..... well, I'm not sure how they can enforce that.
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If the park starts escorting people out, everyone would start keeping their masks on REALLY quickly.

Play announcements over the intercom, have security watching crowds, actually remove people who don't take it seriously—the problem will evaporate really quickly.

Rule violations spread like viruses. People take their masks off when they see other people doing the same. The park just has to be there to stop the spread of selfishness before it turns into a full-on outbreak.
 
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PrincessArlenasDad said:
If it's just a few people... yes, but to a point. Say the guests says, "sorry, forgot to put it back on after my drink of water," and puts it right on. They aren't going to call security every time this happens. Employee walks away, and the guest takes it off again. This is, essentially, the same issue they have with enforcing the no smoking rules.

But, if 90% of the guests refuse to wear masks as was reported..... well, I'm not sure how they can enforce that.
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Right, and I watched a youtube video today that they were complaining that everyone would take off the masks as soon as a ride started and kept them off the whole ride. I also watched another that they said they got in a arugment with another person about them not wearing masks and mentioned almost throwing fists.....security is going to have their hands full as it is with these new rules and the tempers flaring over them in the hot Fkorida sun.
 
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Right, and I watched a youtube video today that they were complaining that everyone would take off the masks as soon as a ride started and kept them off the whole ride. I also watched another that they said they got in a arugment with another person about them not wearing masks and mentioned almost throwing fists.....security is going to have their hands full as it is with these new rules and the tempers flaring over them in the hot Fkorida sun.
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Which videos? I’m interested in seeing some of these perspectives.
 
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Which videos? I’m interested in seeing some of these perspectives.
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I went back and looked and "Theme Park Express" was the one who has mentioned in two seperate videos about a altercation. Others I just searched "Universal Studios" and watched some recent ones. I was on a shared computer so I wasnt logged in so I cany go back and look at the history.
 
Parks like WDW and UNI have come to learn that you can enforce rules strictly without it hurting the bottom line or without bruising their public image. They also understand the seriousness of crowd control and how properly enforced crowd control makes for a better guest experience.

Parks like BGT and SWO are more under the impression that they will create rules, but they don't want to enforce them because they may scare away guests and overall hurt the bottom line and give a negative view of the park. They also seem to think that by not enforcing rules, guests will likely feel more comfortable and have a better experience.

I can tell you that this is opinion from my experience working there .. that is their company culture. They are the definition of laissez faire.
 
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Current IHME projections make me worried about Haunt season... COVID-19 cases are expected to start going up a bit in mid-August and then they start rapidly increasing in early September.

I know some of the experts have said we may not need to shut down for a second wave, but I have a feeling we might just do that, anyway. It's super early and things could change for the better (or worse), but this doesn't fare well at all for those haunted house lovers like myself!

EDIT: Just looked at the social distancing graph and it doesn't look like IHME expects any additional social distancing measures to occur. Maybe I spoke too soon?

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Zachary said:
If the park starts escorting people out, everyone would start keeping their masks on REALLY quickly.

Play announcements over the intercom, have security watching crowds, actually remove people who don't take it seriously—the problem will evaporate really quickly.

Rule violations spread like viruses. People take their masks off when they see other people doing the same. The park just has to be there to stop the spread of selfishness before it turns into a full-on outbreak.
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I basically agree with this, as I said earlier:
PrincessArlenasDad said:
A couple of things to keep in mind:
1. This is all new for BGT employees. They will learn to be firmer with instructing guests to follow the rules. This was only day 1, and, unlike US, they did not get a preview day (which, from reports, was easier for US staff than the GP).
2. US (and WDW especially, though they aren't open, yet) have a culture among the staff of strict crowd control. This results in them having an easier learning curve enforcing the rules. BG never really had the need for the staff to have such a culture; WDW and US crowds have much greater need for it.
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However, the possibility does exist that, regardless of how vigorously the park attempts to enforce the rules, it just won't work.
 
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If it's just a few people... yes, but to a point. Say the guests says, "sorry, forgot to put it back on after my drink of water," and puts it right on. They aren't going to call security every time this happens. Employee walks away, and the guest takes it off again. This is, essentially, the same issue they have with enforcing the no smoking rules.

But, if 90% of the guests refuse to wear masks as was reported..... well, I'm not sure how they can enforce that.
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The regional parks just aren't staffed (nor can they afford to be) to handle hard enforcement of wearing masks. If 90% of guests aren't following the policy, then effectively the policy is worthless. They'd be better off rationalizing the policy to something they can manage which guests will follow (i.e. mandate masks indoors and around park employees) than trying to put a policy they can't/won't enforce. It's a lot easier to kick someone out of the park because they refused to wear a mask while ordering food or getting their harness checked than trying to do the same with someone who doesn't have a mask on in the pathway and can come up with a million excuses why.
 
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