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I think the train would be nice to add especially since two stations are in open areas. However I'd have to imagine that it's just too expensive to operate even running the Alpen Express being it's the shortest one with the 1000 person limit.
 
Yeah, you need a decent amount of staff plus I can't imagine fuel and maintenance is less than just running a coaster.
 
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When I was on Invadr today I noticed log floom had water running through it like it normally would if it was operating. thought that was kinda strange
I saw boats being removed or at least being moved somewhere, yesterday. They were being staged near the sawmill and being picked up. It did look like the flume was on and I did see a lot of employees moving around the entry area of Le Scoot. There may be some scaffolding surrounding some of the supports and flume as well, lessening the chances it will open this year. It would be nice if the park could add EfP or the flume to the event, but I imagine it has to be expensive to run and staff a water ride compared to a roller coaster or flat.
 
The vehicle would but passengers would not have to disembark in Germany, much in the way the turning point operates at Busch Gardens Tampa.
Someone with more knowledge is free to correct me if I am wrong but doesn't the sky ride require staff at each station to move the bucket from one end to the other? i think I recall some staff when it ran as around trip for Christmas town.
 
They would require the same number of operators. The train has to have an employee in each station plus two on the engine and a conductor in the back for six.

Skyride runs with a minimum of 2 operators in each station for a total of six.



That is correct. I would think that the train would require less staff.
 
The vehicle would but passengers would not have to disembark in Germany, much in the way the turning point operates at Busch Gardens Tampa.
Yes but I don't think that was what the original comment was suggesting. I read it as they wanted the park to change it to just run between the France and England stations
 
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5000 people in the entire park is practically empty. I mentioned it before but the HOS nights that people refer to as being very low attendance typically have more that 5000 people in attendance on those nights. I really think there's very few areas where it would be issues because there are a small number of choke points throughout the park where you have to move closer together.

I realize this is true, and certainly 5000 people in the entire park is going to feel much less crowded than an average day at the park. I was at the park on one of the HOS Thursdays when Festa was closed, and most of the rides were a walk-on, but I wouldn't say that the park FELT empty, and I do think that there would be more concerns about safety even if there was a SENSE that the park was more crowded than it is. In other words, it's less a question of "is it possible to socially distance with 5000 people in the park" and more a question of "will people feel like they are able to safely socially distance in the park."

I also think that the addition of the houses does somewhat offset the lack of Festa, capacity wise, and I do think there will be attractions (BfE, Land of Dragons) that may not open even if the entire park does due to not being able to enforce distancing, so there will be some additional challenges there.
 
I realize this is true, and certainly 5000 people in the entire park is going to feel much less crowded than an average day at the park. I was at the park on one of the HOS Thursdays when Festa was closed, and most of the rides were a walk-on, but I wouldn't say that the park FELT empty, and I do think that there would be more concerns about safety even if there was a SENSE that the park was more crowded than it is. In other words, it's less a question of "is it possible to socially distance with 5000 people in the park" and more a question of "will people feel like they are able to safely socially distance in the park."

I also think that the addition of the houses does somewhat offset the lack of Festa, capacity wise, and I do think there will be attractions (BfE, Land of Dragons) that may not open even if the entire park does due to not being able to enforce distancing, so there will be some additional challenges there.
When the park presented their original reopening plan to JCC they said that 5,000 would allow for spacing of 35 feet between each guest if every guest was on a path and evenly spaced. That was not taking shop, eating, areas, or ride lines into account just the total square footage of the public paths. given that math I feel quite safe that there would be adequate room to distance if they opened to 5,000.
 
I realize this is true, and certainly 5000 people in the entire park is going to feel much less crowded than an average day at the park. I was at the park on one of the HOS Thursdays when Festa was closed, and most of the rides were a walk-on, but I wouldn't say that the park FELT empty, and I do think that there would be more concerns about safety even if there was a SENSE that the park was more crowded than it is. In other words, it's less a question of "is it possible to socially distance with 5000 people in the park" and more a question of "will people feel like they are able to safely socially distance in the park."

I also think that the addition of the houses does somewhat offset the lack of Festa, capacity wise, and I do think there will be attractions (BfE, Land of Dragons) that may not open even if the entire park does due to not being able to enforce distancing, so there will be some additional challenges there.
Yes but those nights have attendance higher than even 5000. Some of those attractions that you mention like land of the dragons are also not open during those HOS nights.

My larger point was to help people understand that those nights that we refer to the park as being nearly empty or very slow, on average had a significant amount of people more than the 5000 the park would like to operate
 
Just got off Finnegan's Flyer after my ride was estopped after someone took their mask off! I really appreciate the commitment to mask wearing even on rides and I got to ride 1 3/4 times for my first ever ride.

That’s awesome. Did they make the guest get off?
 
They way the skyride system is designed they can't get rid of the Germany stop. The vehicle has to go the entire route.
Well I didn’t mean tear it down....I mean have the Scotland station and France station and then they move you through Germany like they have for CT. They need family attractions and a way to avoid that hill for older people in masks.
 
While I would like to see Alpengiest added, I would prefer another attraction for kids. Possible skyride or train. My 5 year old can do quite a bit, but my poor 3 year old only has 2 ride options. I wish they could improve the balance a little.
 
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Ok. New perspective after a second estop on Finnegan’s Flyer. I did my last ride of the day on the flyer at about 8:45pm and there was a estop because of a mask on this ride too. (One of the ride attendants recognized me from the other estop so it seems this only happened twice.) They let him stay on the ride after he put it back on, could be because it was close the closing time and a line of at least 2 more rides was still in the queue and it was faster to leave him on, or they aren’t kicking people off the ride for pulling down their mask and I misunderstood what happened the first time (side note: this guy and another with him had already delayed the ride start by not putting loose articles in the cubbies and had to be unlocked to go put them down so I’m sure the attendants were trying to get running again as soon as possible).
The announcement from the first time definitely seemed to back up my first assessment, but this last incident made me rethink.
When the first ride was estopped, I saw a group of people talk to a ride attendant and then leave ride, this is who I thought had caused the estop, but now that I remember more, there was a person that was handed a new mask by an attendant as theirs may have come off during the ride (probably only one side as they had it while getting off). I’m not entirely sure what was said to either party. Now, it could just be a coincidence and one party caused the estop, got kicked off and the other person, worried about getting kicked off asked for a new mask just to be safe. Or all of them caused it, but the one person didn’t do it on purpose and was allowed to continue riding with a new mask. I’m not sure.
Either way, the ride attendants were on it and deserve to be applauded for doing their job well!
 
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