Christmas Town 2011

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studiopzp said:
If you can put rockets on penguins, you should be able to put lights on the penguins there.
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So there is a commercial Christmas decoration of a lochness monster and I would love for it to be in the park!
 
ScoutN said:
Busch Gardens presents "The Griswold Family Spectacle Of Lights."

It is going to end up turning into that if they don't put resources into the entertainment. Even food for that matter was only soso. I enjoy XmasTown to an extent but a very short extent. There are several areas that need work.
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It's still in its infancy though. I'm sure HOS wasn't perfect either in the beginning. It will get better and better as it goes on.
 
You people just want to suck the fun out of everything. I go to these events to have fun and enjoy myself, are the shows lacking? Sometimes, well usually they could be a lot better, but then the cost wouldn't be $20 it would be $50 or more. You are seeing a bunch of primarily college kids do a performance at a theme park, not a Broadway production. I enjoy all the shows, some more than others but I think they are all worth while. What I'm concerned with is the whittling down on the actual number of shows throughout the operating season. They've removed 3 shows during the normal season over the last couple of years and not replaced them. This to me is a greater cause for concern than whether the performers all spin or jump at the exact right time.
 
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^ Exactly.

Also, about the lights vs. shows thing, which sounds better to the GP?

1) "We replaced a show and improved some of the others"
2) "We have 5 million glowing light bulbs all over this place"
 
Swiftman said:
^ Exactly.

Also, about the lights vs. shows thing, which sounds better to the GP?

1) "We replaced a show and improved some of the others"
2) "We have 5 million glowing light bulbs all over this place"
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And the survey says... #2!

I mean really, for being its upcoming third year, i'd say they've done an amazing job. There's nothing else in this area that I know of that can even come close to matching what you can get with Christmas town. Like someone else alreayd said, look how far Howl-O-Scream has come since it's first year.
If you compare the two, Christmas town will be mind blowing come it's thirteenth year.
 
Is there really anything that compares to it in the industry as a whole (not counting parks that are open year round).
 
BG Europe Fan said:
Yep, Dollywood's Smoky Mountain Christmas.
www.dollywood.com/festival-q4-0-Smoky_Mountain_Christmas_.aspx

To be fair though, Dollywood was one of the parks BGW toured when they were still in the planning stages for Christmas Town.
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On Bg's side here, how long have they been doing that event? Plus, Dollywood's park fits the theme alot easier than BG. Though Bg does great with what they have.
 
ktmdavid229 said:
On Bg's side here, how long have they been doing that event? Plus, Dollywood's park fits the theme alot easier than BG. Though Bg does great with what they have.
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BGW has been doing it for 2 years going on 3. As for how long Dollywood has been doing it, you got me there.
 
BG Europe Fan said:
BGW has been doing it for 2 years going on 3. As for how long Dollywood has been doing it, you got me there.
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Well yeah, I knew BGW has been doing it for coming on 3 years. But I figured Dollywood has been dong it for much longer. Kind of gives them the upper hand, for now.
 
^Sorry, I lost my brain there for a moment...

Dollywood also has a stronger Christian Demographic than BGW, which is why their event is bigger than BGW's, although BGW seems to be trying to 1up Dollywood with the number of lights this year.
 
Zoomy said:
You people just want to suck the fun out of everything. I go to these events to have fun and enjoy myself, are the shows lacking? Sometimes, well usually they could be a lot better, but then the cost wouldn't be $20 it would be $50 or more. You are seeing a bunch of primarily college kids do a performance at a theme park, not a Broadway production. I enjoy all the shows, some more than others but I think they are all worth while. What I'm concerned with is the whittling down on the actual number of shows throughout the operating season. They've removed 3 shows during the normal season over the last couple of years and not replaced them. This to me is a greater cause for concern than whether the performers all spin or jump at the exact right time.
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I don't want to see a Broadway production at Busch gardens. If I wanted to see Broadway, I'd go to Broadway. Its not a matter of a spin or a jump at the right time for me. I want a reason to sit down and watch the show. I see tons of Christmas specials with singing and dancing in them just on TV. I want to see something different. A story, or something unique about the show itself. I want it to make me say "I want to see this show, simply because I can't see -insert blank- on TV."

Plus its a topic of song choice, I know the time I went I watched the show in the Festhaus, and I was bored, and I honestly can't remember most of the show other than they had somebody in a snowman costume, dancing to "Frosty the Snow man". (I understand they don't have the budget for an original soundtrack. To be clear)

I don't expect Broadway. I expect something different and unique enough to make me say "wow, that was good/awesome/great/amazing" and "Hey do you remember that one part! Man that was great!"
 
Applesauce said:
I don't want to see a Broadway production at Busch gardens. If I wanted to see Broadway, I'd go to Broadway. Its not a matter of a spin or a jump at the right time for me. I want a reason to sit down and watch the show. I see tons of Christmas specials with singing and dancing in them just on TV. I want to see something different. A story, or something unique about the show itself. I want it to make me say "I want to see this show, simply because I can't see -insert blank- on TV."

Plus its a topic of song choice, I know the time I went I watched the show in the Festhaus, and I was bored, and I honestly can't remember most of the show other than they had somebody in a snowman costume, dancing to "Frosty the Snow man". (I understand they don't have the budget for an original soundtrack. To be clear)

I don't expect Broadway. I expect something different and unique enough to make me say "wow, that was good/awesome/great/amazing" and "Hey do you remember that one part! Man that was great!"
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In my opinion/experience, most people don't go around at Christmas wanting to see things that are new and exciting, they want tradition and comfort. Santa, Frosty, Rudolph, carols, lights, trees, turkey, hot cocoa, etc and so on. Throw in a new song or character or story and there's a good chance you'll have a bunch of people going "Huh?" Not to say some recent Christmas stories/songs aren't good, but for the most part, it's about the tradition.
 
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PageyMoon said:
In my opinion/experience, most people don't go around at Christmas wanting to see things that are new and exciting, they want tradition and comfort. Santa, Frosty, Rudolph, carols, lights, trees, turkey, hot cocoa, etc and so on. Throw in a new song or character or story and there's a good chance you'll have a bunch of people going "Huh?" Not to say some recent Christmas stories/songs aren't good, but for the most part, it's about the tradition.
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Why would I go to Busch for Chrismastown if it is something I can sit here and watch? I wouldn't.

I don't want to see Frosty dancing and singing his song. I want to see something that puts a twists on an old story. Create a story with Frosty, or a dilemma with someone and sing songs. Don't sing the songs that every stinking radio, tv, and pm3 player has going for the entire month.
 
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FWIW, they were playing some Christmastown music in France last night (that theme song they normally play throughout the park, no idea what it's called). Afterward, it switched back to HOS music. Go figure.
 
PageyMoon said:
In my opinion/experience, most people don't go around at Christmas wanting to see things that are new and exciting, they want tradition and comfort. Santa, Frosty, Rudolph, carols, lights, trees, turkey, hot cocoa, etc and so on. Throw in a new song or character or story and there's a good chance you'll have a bunch of people going "Huh?" Not to say some recent Christmas stories/songs aren't good, but for the most part, it's about the tradition.
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I'm all for tradition. I'd love to see a show about Saint Nicolas, or any other traditional holiday figures for the various countries. Its just sort of awkward looking to me to have a park that's based in Europe, but the shows seem 100% American. If I wanted American tradition, I'd just stay home and watch this stuff on TV.

I'm not saying that Busch Gardens needs to go all out like Disney, Disney is in its own league. But, it wouldn't be all that difficult to do more European rooted stories or traditions, like the carolers in England. I know America made Christmas (and most holidays) commercial, and its probably near impossible not to have any American traditions within the park, but I would like to see more European based stories than just the normal American Frosty, and Rudolph.
 
Applesauce said:
PageyMoon said:
In my opinion/experience, most people don't go around at Christmas wanting to see things that are new and exciting, they want tradition and comfort. Santa, Frosty, Rudolph, carols, lights, trees, turkey, hot cocoa, etc and so on. Throw in a new song or character or story and there's a good chance you'll have a bunch of people going "Huh?" Not to say some recent Christmas stories/songs aren't good, but for the most part, it's about the tradition.
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I'm all for tradition. I'd love to see a show about Saint Nicolas, or any other traditional holiday figures for the various countries. Its just sort of awkward looking to me to have a park that's based in Europe, but the shows seem 100% American. If I wanted American tradition, I'd just stay home and watch this stuff on TV.

I'm not saying that Busch Gardens needs to go all out like Disney, Disney is in its own league. But, it wouldn't be all that difficult to do more European rooted stories or traditions, like the carolers in England. I know America made Christmas (and most holidays) commercial, and its probably near impossible not to have any American traditions within the park, but I would like to see more European based stories than just the normal American Frosty, and Rudolph.
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Now that, I can agree on. It is a european themed park afterall and I think combining American Christmas tradition with more olde world christmas charm is a fantastic idea!
 
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