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Honestly, after visiting this year's event again, I love it. Only a few issues I have with it and those are the new O Tannenbaum, Festival Of Lights (but I love what the new overall light package on Pompeii looks like), and, as always, the train only having one stop. Overall though it was as fun as always, almost more fun. I don't see what all the complaining is about.
EDIT - Also, no Chanukah/Kwanzaa representation. I know it's Christmastown but it seems impolite and culturally, absolutely unacceptable. Again, though, I love BGWCT23, and that's coming from a Jew.
 
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My family is visiting in the 27th and will have a big group. We have been to Christmas Town many times and always enjoy it, but have certainly had struggles with the food options in the past. Considering the Feast with Santa for the first time. It’s pricey for a large group but seems like it may be worth it. Any feedback from those who have been? I searched but didn’t see much from this year.
 
My family is visiting in the 27th and will have a big group. We have been to Christmas Town many times and always enjoy it, but have certainly had struggles with the food options in the past. Considering the Feast with Santa for the first time. It’s pricey for a large group but seems like it may be worth it. Any feedback from those who have been? I searched but didn’t see much from this year.
I went earlier this year. The food is decent. Not amazing, but not terrible. The best part is it's all you can eat and you avoid waiting in a big line to get food and pay. They also have hot cocoa, so get one to go on our way out the door and that will save you some money from buying one after. The other great thing is you get a nice Santa photo with no wait in line. In an hour's time you eat, get a Santa photo, and see a little show. Mrs. Claus and two elves walk around and interact with each table, which is the kids love. It's a great experience for families and worth the money in my opinion.
 
The lights are just pitiful anymore. They may have been nice 12 years ago but Winterfest had came along to put them to shame. They may advertise a lot of lights, but there are noticeably less than they had at their peak Plus so many not working.

Sounds like we need the ParkFans Fact Checking Team to count every light in the park and see if the number they’re advertising is truthful.
 
 
The lights are just pitiful anymore. They may have been nice 12 years ago but Winterfest had came along to put them to shame. They may advertise a lot of lights, but there are noticeably less than they had at their peak Plus so many not working.

This is actually not the case. The last few years may have felt like they has cut lights do to expanding the footprint of the event especially once they added the train but the numbers have actually continued to rise with this year seeing the largest increase in the last 5 years.
 
@horsesboy, how is your statement of the largest increase in the last 5 years verified? The park has advertised "over 10 million lights" for at least the last five or six years now. So based on their advertising there hasn't been any increase. The may have changed up some light color patterns and moved some around but I haven't really noticed an increase in lights at all. If they have added a decent amount it's not that many or else I'd have to think they would change their advertising to say "over 11 million" lights. For the first time in the last few years they finally fully decorated the tree in San Marco. The last few years they were leaving the last few feet of the branches empty.
 
@horsesboy, how is your statement of the largest increase in the last 5 years verified? The park has advertised "over 10 million lights" for at least the last five or six years now. So based on their advertising there hasn't been any increase. The may have changed up some light color patterns and moved some around but I haven't really noticed an increase in lights at all. If they have added a decent amount it's not that many or else I'd have to think they would change their advertising to say "over 11 million" lights. For the first time in the last few years they finally fully decorated the tree in San Marco. The last few years they were leaving the last few feet of the branches empty.
I know people that have worked every Christmas Town install and the report is from them.
 
That's good to hear they are trying to make some improvements even if they aren't really that noticeable. From what I've seen this year there are spots where they easily could add a lot more lights as there are some sparse sections. If they could do this I think it would help the overall look and feel of the park along with being able to update their advertising if the increase is big enough.
 
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What in the world happened to the tree man... it used to be so detailed and now they take the cop out way and throw some string lights over it and call it good.
 

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What in the world happened to the tree man... it used to be so detailed and now they take the cop out way and throw some string lights over it and call it good.
if it means anything, they changed the lights because the old ones used to have so many issues running the light show, often they wouldn't turn on and sync with the music. i couldn't tell you why they didn't do the same for the smaller trees though (i've noticed they still have the same issues with syncing to the songs)
 
I don’t feel that the lights “feel” like less because the event expanded. The same amount of park is open now that was open at my first Christmastown. Actually a little less since the end of Festa is blocked off (with a few less trees at the end). They have added rides, but not park space.

They did add the light effects for the train when they made it round trip. This is the one place I feel that there are more lights than in the beginning. This year the synchronized field of lights is gone replaced by some uplit snow men.

The Polar Pathway light show seems like it was thrown together at the last minute. The music isn’t continuous and sings cut off in odd places. The building looks a little “Atari 80s matrix” compared to before.

The Tannenbaum doesn’t look great either.

Didn’t they used to wrap the trees in the middle of the islands of Garden of Inventions? They are just uplit now.

Remember when France had all of the 12 days of Christmas trees? Just lights on the buildings now.

Overall Ireland looks like minimal effort was put into it other than the three large trees in the stage. The Garlands strung across the walkways are sort of sparse.

I also feel there a significantly less trees on the banks of the lake (Rhine River) and under Verbolten . It’s looking sparse. Maybe they weren’t working.

I also feel like the live trees have gotten smaller. They’re expensive so probably so.

I do appreciate that each area has its own unique lighting scheme. KD also does that. Carowinds and Kings Iskand have waaaay to many warm white lights.

I know a lot of effort goes into wrapping the cut trees with lights, but they just aren’t that impressive anymore. I wish they would take advantage of number of large trees on the park and string the lights in them. It’s more immersive than these tiny live trees. Also it would be more cost effective than replacing so many cut trees each year.

I do still adore the green trees and luminaries in the Wolf area though. It’s serene. The blue trees in Scotland are nice but the floodlights on the animals takes away from the atmosphere. The tri color trees in New France fit that area well.

Overall the live entertainment took a downgrade thus year. Wisemen feels like a Winterfest low production side show compared to the more complete Onto Us.

While they didn’t fulfill the prediction of Gloria with a soundtrack, 5 musicians does not an orchestra make. The music feels hollow compared to the original version of this show.

The train and skyway are still big pluses of this event compared to some others. I finally had to ask a train employee what those light ball things with three loops were (after the snow men) She said the BG logo. It has 4 loops lol.

I did enjoy the event this year despite the shortened (at the last minute) 5 hour operating nights this week. I just think it could be much more impressive with a different route on the lighting.
 
I visited Christmas Town yesterday and had a fantastic time. It feels like the event has gotten some of its mojo back. I daresay it, but I think CT may have taken the crown back from Winterfest as the better theme park holiday event this year.

Christmas Town 2023 remains a far cry from the event in its heyday (which, frankly, was only a handful of years ago). But taken on their own terms – not comparing them to their all-time best – the decorations all looked solid and complete, and the park felt festive. At the very least, Christmas Town no longer feels like an event reeling from a post-COVID stripdown; CT 2021 and 2022 very much had the vibe of "Here's the bare minimum, and you'll accept it because it's Christmas Town and we know you'll pay for it anyway!"

Pretty much the whole park looks nice, which hasn't been the case for the past few years. Polar Pathway, which had been in shambles for the past few seasons, is stunning with its new appearance (at least when the show isn't running; more on that in a second). Aquitaine, which had basically looked forgotten for the past few years, at least has a cohesive aesthetic and has a nice French-language Christmas music soundtrack; nowhere near as creative or grand as the "12 Days of Christmas" overlay it once had, but a million times better than the sparse rainbow lights and recycled DarKastle Santa meet-and-greet soundtrack that the park had put there recently. I love the continuing improvements to Rhinefeld's delicate candy cane aesthetic. And though I agree that there are fewer miniature live Christmas trees dotting the park and fewer lights strung up than there once were, no area of the park felt "dark."

And, in a heartwarmingly welcome return to form for the event, I spotted a handful of path entertainment yesterday. Not only is there the advertised addition of the Celtic dancers in Killarney (a great touch!) and the Dickensian carolers in Banbury, but a few dressed up characters like the Gingerbread Man were roaming the park, and I saw a handful of Dickensian-style atmospheric actors interacting with guests in Banbury too. This is the sort of stuff that makes the event – and the park – feel alive, and it makes me happy knowing there's an emphasis on them again.

I'll also add my obligatory annual praise for Scrooge No More and 'Twas That Night, which have basically become holiday traditions for me and my family. They're among the best shows BGW has ever produced and the best entertainment I've ever seen in a theme park, and unless BGW can put together a worthy replacement for them (spoiler: doubtful), I hope they stick around for years to come. This was my first time seeing Twas without Elvis Stojko as the lead, and while his replacement doesn't have quite the charisma that made Elvis's performance so magnetic (you could really tell Elvis had a blast putting his all into the character), the new lead's skating talent is nearly as impressive. I left happy that the show is still great even without its superstar lead.

That said, there are a few areas for improvement I noticed:

Polar Pathway - I absolutely love the new lights for this area – when the show isn't going. It looks even more ethereal and otherworldly than ever, and coupled with the hauntingly beautiful soundtrack that it's always had, it's one of the most enchanting displays, or really experiences, I've seen. That said, I agree with everyone else that the lights show is crap. Overplayed holiday pop songs with the simplest, cheapest "animations" that make the whole building look like a mid-2000s PC screensaver. Yawn. Most groups seemed to only watch for 30 seconds before moving on. I'd prefer that they just left Polar Pathway as it always is, a serene experience to savor. But if they insist on getting their money's worth from these fancy new lights, they need to at least put together a show that's A) tonally and thematically consistent with Polar Pathway's grand and almost eerie beauty, and B) creative enough to hold the audience's attention with a compelling story and animation.

Gloria - I'm glad there's an actual Christmas show in the Abbey Stone again, and I have a feeling that this stripped-down version of Gloria is probably still better than anything new the park could have produced these days. I'm also glad they took the opportunity to update the cringe-inducing slideshow of low-resolution stock images from the middle of the show with a more polished series of videos. But the lack of a large orchestra has a bigger impact on the show than I expected. The show feels cheaper, hammier with its mostly canned music – it feels less like what I always thought was a fairly impressive production for a theme park, and more like a Kings Dominion-type music revue. I know musicians are expensive, but if BGW doesn't want to cough up the money for a proper new show, I think they at least need a few more musicians (brass, wind, strings) to beef up the orchestra and make the show more worth watching.

O Tannenbaum - I think the folks at BGW need to take a trip to KD to see how an impressive modern Christmas display should look. I'm glad they were aware that the old O Tannenbaum was out of date, but the updated version feels a little cold, and like Polar Pathway, feels like they just selected the "demo" program after they took the new lights out of the box.

Holiday Hills - It's a little sad that this area is basically just Festa Italia with some vaguely 1950s decor sprinkled in; if any area of the park feels like an afterthought now, it's this one. At its peak, Holiday Hills was the Christmas equivalent of a perfect Terror-tory, totally immersive with multiple sound channels, full-size 50s billboards, huge displays, and more. If BGW doesn't want to completely cede this vibe of flashy, immersive, colorful holiday fun to KD, I wish they wouldn't leave Festa so neglected.

Food and Beverage - No surprise that this is still an issue, but why is SEAS so insistent on making it so damn hard to spend money on food and drink here? There were only a few places open serving hot chocolate, making the lines massive. And the fact that they've essentially given up on holiday meals is sad, especially when KD continues to do an outstanding job there. Note to Scott Ross: I'll spend more money if you give me food worth spending it on!

Aquitaine - As I said earlier, I'm glad this area isn't basically nothing but a few rainbow lights carelessly and sparsely hung up anymore. But the red floodlights and fiberglass figurines, while at least providing a consistent aesthetic, still feel a little creatively bankrupt. The French music they were playing makes me wonder why they don't just got for a "Parisian Christmas" vibe. It seems like that direction could be fairly inexpensively executed, feel more immersive, and could probably provide some nice photo ops and money-spending opportunities.

As a final aside, I like that they've left Land of the Dragons open as a playground even though they're not decorating it or running the rides anymore. It was nice for the few years when they did decorate it it (especially for the views from the skyride coming into Rhinefeld from Aquitaine), but if I were working with a budget-crazy chairman of the board and had to cut decorations from somewhere, LOTD would probably be my first choice. But I noticed lots of families taking advantage of the playground, so I wanted to point this decision out as a smart decision by the park.

All in all, it's hard not to evaluate CT while remembering how over-the-top incredible many areas used to be, but I think that if I had never seen CT circa ~2015, I would have walked away thinking BGW had put on a solid, magical Christmas event this year.
 
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I visited Christmas Town yesterday and had a fantastic time. It feels like the event has gotten some of its mojo back. I daresay it, but I think CT may have taken the crown back from Winterfest as the better theme park holiday event this year.

Christmas Town 2023 remains a far cry from the event in its heyday (which, frankly, was only a handful of years ago). But taken on their own terms – not comparing them to their all-time best – the decorations all looked solid and complete, and the park felt festive. At the very least, Christmas Town no longer feels like an event reeling from a post-COVID stripdown; CT 2021 and 2022 very much had the vibe of "Here's the bare minimum, and you'll accept it because it's Christmas Town and we know you'll pay for it anyway!"

Pretty much the whole park looks nice, which hasn't been the case for the past few years. Polar Pathway, which had been in shambles for the past few seasons, is stunning with its new appearance (at least when the show isn't running; more on that in a second). Aquitaine, which had basically looked forgotten for the past few years, at least has a cohesive aesthetic and has a nice French-language Christmas music soundtrack; nowhere near as creative or grand as the "12 Days of Christmas" overlay it once had, but a million times better than the sparse rainbow lights and recycled DarKastle Santa meet-and-greet soundtrack that the park had put there recently. I love the continuing improvements to Rhinefeld's delicate candy cane aesthetic. And though I agree that there are fewer miniature live Christmas trees dotting the park and fewer lights strung up than there once were, no area of the park felt "dark."

And, in a heartwarmingly welcome return to form for the event, I spotted a handful of path entertainment yesterday. Not only is there the advertised addition of the Celtic dancers in Killarney (a great touch!) and the Dickensian carolers in Banbury, but a few dressed up characters like the Gingerbread Man were roaming the park, and I saw a handful of Dickensian-style atmospheric actors interacting with guests in Banbury too. This is the sort of stuff that makes the event – and the park – feel alive, and it makes me happy knowing there's an emphasis on them again.

I'll also add my obligatory annual praise for Scrooge No More and 'Twas That Night, which have basically become holiday traditions for me and my family. They're among the best shows BGW has ever produced and the best entertainment I've ever seen in a theme park, and unless BGW can put together a worthy replacement for them (spoiler: doubtful), I hope they stick around for years to come. This was my first time seeing Twas without Elvis Stojko as the lead, and while his replacement doesn't have quite the charisma that made Elvis's performance so magnetic (you could really tell Elvis had a blast putting his all into the character), the new lead's skating talent is nearly as impressive. I left happy that the show is still great even without its superstar lead.

That said, there are a few areas for improvement I noticed:

Polar Pathway - I absolutely love the new lights for this area – when the show isn't going. It looks even more ethereal and otherworldly than ever, and coupled with the hauntingly beautiful soundtrack that it's always had, it's one of the most enchanting displays, or really experiences, I've seen. That said, I agree with everyone else that the lights show is crap. Overplayed holiday pop songs with the simplest, cheapest "animations" that make the whole building look like a mid-2000s PC screensaver. Yawn. Most groups seemed to only watch for 30 seconds before moving on. I'd prefer that they just left Polar Pathway as it always is, a serene experience to savor. But if they insist on getting their money's worth from these fancy new lights, they need to at least put together a show that's A) tonally and thematically consistent with Polar Pathway's grand and almost eerie beauty, and B) creative enough to hold the audience's attention with a compelling story and animation.

Gloria - I'm glad there's an actual Christmas show in the Abbey Stone again, and I have a feeling that this stripped-down version of Gloria is probably still better than anything new the park could have produced these days. I'm also glad they took the opportunity to update the cringe-inducing slideshow of low-resolution stock images from the middle of the show with a more polished series of videos. But the lack of a large orchestra has a bigger impact on the show than I expected. The show feels cheaper, hammier with its mostly canned music – it feels less like what I always thought was a fairly impressive production for a theme park, and more like a Kings Dominion-type music revue. I know musicians are expensive, but if BGW doesn't want to cough up the money for a proper new show, I think they at least need a few more musicians (brass, wind, strings) to beef up the orchestra and make the show more worth watching.

O Tannenbaum - I think the folks at BGW need to take a trip to KD to see how an impressive modern Christmas display should look. I'm glad they were aware that the old O Tannenbaum was out of date, but the updated version feels a little cold, and like Polar Pathway, feels like they just selected the "demo" program after they took the new lights out of the box.

Holiday Hills - It's a little sad that this area is basically just Festa Italia with some vaguely 1950s decor sprinkled in; if any area of the park feels like an afterthought now, it's this one. At its peak, Holiday Hills was the Christmas equivalent of a perfect Terror-tory, totally immersive with multiple sound channels, full-size 50s billboards, huge displays, and more. If BGW doesn't want to completely cede this vibe of flashy, immersive, colorful holiday fun to KD, I wish they wouldn't leave Festa so neglected.

Food and Beverage - No surprise that this is still an issue, but why is SEAS so insistent on making it so damn hard to spend money on food and drink here? There were only a few places open serving hot chocolate, making the lines massive. And the fact that they've essentially given up on holiday meals is sad, especially when KD continues to do an outstanding job there. Note to Scott Ross: I'll spend more money if you give me food worth spending it on!

Aquitaine - As I said earlier, I'm glad this area isn't basically nothing but a few rainbow lights carelessly and sparsely hung up anymore. But the red floodlights and fiberglass figurines, while at least providing a consistent aesthetic, still feel a little creatively bankrupt. The French music they were playing makes me wonder why they don't just got for a "Parisian Christmas" vibe. It seems like that direction could be fairly inexpensively executed, feel more immersive, and could probably provide some nice photo ops and money-spending opportunities.

As a final aside, I like that they've left Land of the Dragons open as a playground even though they're not decorating it or running the rides anymore. It was nice for the few years when they did decorate it it (especially for the views from the skyride coming into Rhinefeld from Aquitaine), but if I were working with a budget-crazy chairman of the board and had to cut decorations from somewhere, LOTD would probably be my first choice. But I noticed lots of families taking advantage of the playground, so I wanted to point this decision out as a smart decision by the park.

All in all, it's hard not to evaluate CT while remembering how over-the-top incredible many areas used to be, but I think that if I had never seen CT circa ~2015, I would have walked away thinking BGW had put on a solid, magical Christmas event this year.
This is really encouraging to hear. We’re going this coming week, so I was worried our experience would be somewhat similar to last year (good family time, but a little let down by CT). Glad there’s some restoration of charm!
 
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I've wondered for a few years now if it would be viable and cheaper for the park to set aside some unused, out of the way area, and have their own little Christmas tree farm where they could grow their own trees and when they are the right size pull them and replant them in the park where needed for CT. Also I wonder if some of the Xmas trees just could be left in place instead of being removed at the end of the event and then just keep them trimmed during the year. Things like this would save them time and money each year.
 
I've wondered for a few years now if it would be viable and cheaper for the park to set aside some unused, out of the way area, and have their own little Christmas tree farm where they could grow their own trees and when they are the right size pull them and replant them in the park where needed for CT. Also I wonder if some of the Xmas trees just could be left in place instead of being removed at the end of the event and then just keep them trimmed during the year. Things like this would save them time and money each year.
I am certainly all for keeping some and planting some where practical for reuse in place every year. That said remember that was how we ended up with the over grown mess that recently blocked the view of Pompeii. Also it takes anywhere from 7 to 15 years depending on weather conditions to grown a Christmas tree to a usable height that would seem to be a major challenge for the park running its own growing operation.
 
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