:heart: I've never missed it so much. :heart:
I'm dreading next year when they take it away again.:'(
I'm dreading next year when they take it away again.:'(
Joe said:It was absolutely not intended to be a replica of Big Ben! That is simply a nickname that has been given to the clock over the years.
When BGW was built they put a great deal of consideration into absolute geographical and historical accuracy, with heavy attention to detail. Just like there is no Eiffel Tower in Aquitaine, there is no Big Ben in Banbury Cross.
Just looking at the two clocks should make it clear that they are not meant to be the same, especially considering how much pride BGW took in attention to detail.
So no, the clock tower in Banbury Cross was never constructed to be a replica of Big Ben. It seems most people automatically link English clock towers with Big Ben, and that sure is an easy nickname to give it. Really, though, it's not supposed to be a prop begging for a London theme. It's really a misunderstood, underlying, maybe even forgotten... reference to the Old Country.
sufpadd said:Joe said:It was absolutely not intended to be a replica of Big Ben! That is simply a nickname that has been given to the clock over the years.
When BGW was built they put a great deal of consideration into absolute geographical and historical accuracy, with heavy attention to detail. Just like there is no Eiffel Tower in Aquitaine, there is no Big Ben in Banbury Cross.
Just looking at the two clocks should make it clear that they are not meant to be the same, especially considering how much pride BGW took in attention to detail.
So no, the clock tower in Banbury Cross was never constructed to be a replica of Big Ben. It seems most people automatically link English clock towers with Big Ben, and that sure is an easy nickname to give it. Really, though, it's not supposed to be a prop begging for a London theme. It's really a misunderstood, underlying, maybe even forgotten... reference to the Old Country.
I was reading this thread, and this comment struck me, so I started looking at the old maps to see when the clock began being referred to as Big Ben. It is labeled with the Big Ben name all the way back on the 1979 map. It's hard to believe that there was no intention for it to be a reference to Big Ben if they used that name for it officially in the first 5 years, during the time when they were being very loyal to the Old Country.
Joe said:They look a bit different, don't they? For a park that once paid exquisite attention to detail, one would think they would have made their clock look more like the real thing, if that's what it was meant to be. Also, Banbury Cross takes place in a small 17th century village; Big Ben wasn't constructed until the 19th century in London.
The "Big Ben" label may have been a nickname for the clock tower, but I don't doubt my initial statement that Big Ben and the Banbury Cross clock tower are two separate entities in the slightest.
Keep in mind the maps are viewed by the GP, and it could have very well just be referenced as Big Ben to make it easier on the public.sufpadd said:Joe said:They look a bit different, don't they? For a park that once paid exquisite attention to detail, one would think they would have made their clock look more like the real thing, if that's what it was meant to be. Also, Banbury Cross takes place in a small 17th century village; Big Ben wasn't constructed until the 19th century in London.
The "Big Ben" label may have been a nickname for the clock tower, but I don't doubt my initial statement that Big Ben and the Banbury Cross clock tower are two separate entities in the slightest.
I absolutely agree they look incredibly different, and it was a mistake in my mind for the park to label it as Big Ben.
I do disagree with the rest of your statement. I don't consider it a nickname when it is used as the name on the park map. And they gave it that official name, on their official maps, during the time that you are referencing as when they paid exquisite attention to detail. This name was on the map during the 1970s and 1980s.
Big Ben is the nickname for the Great Bell of the clock at the north end of the Palace of Westminster in London,[1] and often extended to refer to the clock and the clock tower.[2]
The tower is officially known as the Elizabeth Tower, renamed as such to celebrate the Diamond Jubilee of Elizabeth II (prior to being renamed in 2012 it was known as simply "Clock Tower").