After The Wing
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I'd like to see Anaconda torn down for one of the new-gen Vekoma multi-loopers like Lech Coaster and Fonix.
I said in another thread somewhere that they should build a coaster along the maintenance road towards the parking lot and big highway sign.
Anaconda is fine, it pumps riders through And has one of the highest rider totals in the park every year.
Interesting replies to the inquiry. I don’t see a family woodie coaster coming because we already have Woodstock Express to fill that niche. I don’t see a woodie coming at all because CF just put a lot of money into Grizzly (and to a lesser extent Racer 75). I definitely can’t see a woodie in Old VA. It has one. They already “removed” Hurler for TT.
So your betting on KD getting Ragin Cajun when Six Fairs pulls the plug on SFA?
I do see a Mack rides water coaster or Mack’s Extreme Spinning Coaster. The spinner would fit nicely in Old Va since the go-carts and Dinosaurs Alive are gone and balance out the park. They also have the empty Days of Thunder building up front by the Eiffel Tower. That would be ideal for a dark ride of some sort. I expect theming upgrades to continue throughout the park. Especially after it gets renamed Six Flags over Kings Dominion. And, some flat rides in JX. There is nothing like the suggested Mack rides in VA.
I too see Kings Dominion getting attractions from SFA and/or SFGA. I would love to get RailBlazer, re-theme it and place it in Old VA.
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Thinking about the investment the park has gotten lately, I think expansion of Jungle X/Project 305 retheme is probably slated for next year.
We'll probably have an off year, then some work on Old Virginia, probably in the go-kart/Dinos Alive area with some flat rides. Perhaps expand the whole area into kind of a sawmill/logging theme. Could definitely get some flat rides that would with that. We already have the Shenandoah Logging company/ flume ride that they could extend from thematically.
I think attention will turn to the water park after that. The whole thing is kinda thrown together haphazardly. I'm not sure how to make that area more cohesive, or even if you would want to. It feels like the whole thing was just kind of "We should have XXX attraction/slide/ride, throw one in there somewhere."
Not sure how to change any of that, as they'll want to keep the lazy river, it's too much of a people eater. Unless they build a new one, the current waterpark entrance plaza is probably sticking around. So maybe add a smaller water coaster (just got to ride the one at Dolly's Splash Country, not a bad ride. Even the hotel we stayed at had a small one which was pretty fun), since they don't have one yet. I don't know much about water rides.
After all of that then I could see a new coaster coming. Unfortunately, I also get the feeling that next coaster will likely be a family coaster. Whether that's a Vekoma SFC, family boomerange, possibly a GG family coaster, or even a B&M family launch, that's my take.
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We'll probably have an off year, then some work on Old Virginia, probably in the go-kart/Dinos Alive area with some flat rides. Perhaps expand the whole area into kind of a sawmill/logging theme. Could definitely get some flat rides that would with that. We already have the Shenandoah Logging company/ flume ride that they could extend from thematically.
I think attention will turn to the water park after that. The whole thing is kinda thrown together haphazardly. I'm not sure how to make that area more cohesive, or even if you would want to. It feels like the whole thing was just kind of "We should have XXX attraction/slide/ride, throw one in there somewhere."
Not sure how to change any of that, as they'll want to keep the lazy river, it's too much of a people eater. Unless they build a new one, the current waterpark entrance plaza is probably sticking around. So maybe add a smaller water coaster (just got to ride the one at Dolly's Splash Country, not a bad ride. Even the hotel we stayed at had a small one which was pretty fun), since they don't have one yet. I don't know much about water rides.
After all of that then I could see a new coaster coming. Unfortunately, I also get the feeling that next coaster will likely be a family coaster. Whether that's a Vekoma SFC, family boomerange, possibly a GG family coaster, or even a B&M family launch, that's my take.
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Had to look it up to confirm; it's seriously been nearly 20 years since a true family coaster was added (2006, Backlot). Seeing what Kings Island just did with Camp Snoopy, I think a small similar redevelopment of the small theater space would be perfect. See rough drawing below:
Throw a Vekoma family boomerang (Rebound model like KI), a refresh/replacement of Flying Ace, maybe another small flat ride, and general remake of that area just like KI did. Honestly not sure if that theater space is still used or not... but surely this could be a better use of space.
Throw a Vekoma family boomerang (Rebound model like KI), a refresh/replacement of Flying Ace, maybe another small flat ride, and general remake of that area just like KI did. Honestly not sure if that theater space is still used or not... but surely this could be a better use of space.
I can see them turning that section into “Camp Snoopy” like Kings Island did. Personally I think that’s a great idea that section feels distinct from the rest of Planet Snoopy plus the decorations for Camp Snoopy I think would fit in more with the attractions in that area.
I will pound the table again for wanting them to turn their attention to Old Virginia. It needs it IMO.
As for family coasters, you could say they have Apple Zapple, Racer, BLSC, Woodstock Express, Reptilian, even Great Pumpkin Coaster. Even to an extend you could call Grizzly a family friendly coaster, Anaconda and Dominator are good family friendly loopers. We need to see how the Wing Coaster turns out but for really high thrills, I feel like KD has TT, FOF, and P305.
Anyways, back to my idea and what I would put as a Timeline:
2027 - I think Old Virginia could use the attention, and yes I would give them another family friendly option though. I would give them a controlled spin coaster through the old Dino’s Alive/Go Kart tracks. Theme it to moonshine runners/early stock car racing. Get rid of the Skycoaster/swing and put in a smaller junior coaster there as part of OV. Do up a new show in the theater, make the pathways throughout look like cobblestone (but flat because injuries), update some food offerings. A good BBQ place in here would be nice.
2031 - In the Peanuts showcase, for a future coaster a Vekoma SFC would be a good addition as part of CAG. This could be a great excuse to take care of that area down that way to have CAG front to back completely covered.
2035 - Out by Dominators turn around, there’s some open space where I would put another flat, put in 2-3 flats around Boo’s entrance, give Boo’s an overhaul, and put in a looping inverted coaster since you will really need one by then. Put the lift over Dominators turn around, have the drop turn back to the park, and utilize that corner of the parking lot for the bulk of the ride.
I do think it would be great for KD to keep the spacing between rides and focus on other improvements in between those big years. I really think that using coasters to “pin” and start the overhaul of an area is a great path to take. Plus I think it’s good for the word of mouth advertising to have a new coaster in an area, then to hear that something else is happening in that area, so you go back the next year to see what’s new then you see even more is being done is a great builder.
As for family coasters, you could say they have Apple Zapple, Racer, BLSC, Woodstock Express, Reptilian, even Great Pumpkin Coaster. Even to an extend you could call Grizzly a family friendly coaster, Anaconda and Dominator are good family friendly loopers. We need to see how the Wing Coaster turns out but for really high thrills, I feel like KD has TT, FOF, and P305.
Anyways, back to my idea and what I would put as a Timeline:
2027 - I think Old Virginia could use the attention, and yes I would give them another family friendly option though. I would give them a controlled spin coaster through the old Dino’s Alive/Go Kart tracks. Theme it to moonshine runners/early stock car racing. Get rid of the Skycoaster/swing and put in a smaller junior coaster there as part of OV. Do up a new show in the theater, make the pathways throughout look like cobblestone (but flat because injuries), update some food offerings. A good BBQ place in here would be nice.
2031 - In the Peanuts showcase, for a future coaster a Vekoma SFC would be a good addition as part of CAG. This could be a great excuse to take care of that area down that way to have CAG front to back completely covered.
2035 - Out by Dominators turn around, there’s some open space where I would put another flat, put in 2-3 flats around Boo’s entrance, give Boo’s an overhaul, and put in a looping inverted coaster since you will really need one by then. Put the lift over Dominators turn around, have the drop turn back to the park, and utilize that corner of the parking lot for the bulk of the ride.
I do think it would be great for KD to keep the spacing between rides and focus on other improvements in between those big years. I really think that using coasters to “pin” and start the overhaul of an area is a great path to take. Plus I think it’s good for the word of mouth advertising to have a new coaster in an area, then to hear that something else is happening in that area, so you go back the next year to see what’s new then you see even more is being done is a great builder.
So like maybe etched concrete? Where it has the look and texture of cobblestone but much smoother, akin to Banbury Cross’ etched pavement of bricks?
Yea. Or just flat rounded edged stones with the fill coming up to the height of the stone.
Old Virginia already has the best themed pavement in the park with the colonial-style pavers they added between Dogwood’s Grille and Grizzly Gulch General Store in 2019. I think they should just focus on finishing the rest of the area’s pavement in that style.
If it's a spinner, I really hope it's controlled. I can't do ones that aren't controlled. If it's family friendly, how about an indoors one like HP's? That would give another indoors ride, which would be nice to have.
If 2026 is not an off-year, then it seems the waterpark is due another 1 or 2 attractions to be added. Since CF took control, every 5 years the waterpark gets some type of new attraction/renovation/upgrades.
I am surprised that KD has yet to receive any flat ride package. Given that Carowinds has gotten 2 flat ride packages in the last 8-9 years (Country Fair and Aeronautica). I'm thinking 2027-2028 for something like that. As far as another major coaster for KD, I don't see that happening until 2030-2032 timeframe. A family coaster or any type of regularly scheduled entertainment during the summer season. ????????????????
I am surprised that KD has yet to receive any flat ride package. Given that Carowinds has gotten 2 flat ride packages in the last 8-9 years (Country Fair and Aeronautica). I'm thinking 2027-2028 for something like that. As far as another major coaster for KD, I don't see that happening until 2030-2032 timeframe. A family coaster or any type of regularly scheduled entertainment during the summer season. ????????????????
I personally think it’ll be a few years before the waterpark sees anything new. Honestly, I think that family coaster may be a bit sooner than some are anticipating…but I personally think it’ll be a part of a Planet Snoopy expansion. 2027 will have been ten years since the last additions to the kids area, and we’ve been seeing several parks across the chain add family coasters to theirs. I’m still on board with a Vekoma Family Boomerang to replace Peanuts Showplace, but they could also go the ART Engineering route. Either way, there’s a lot of potential in that otherwise vacant plot, and whatever route they choose to go it would check a few boxes for the park, and it would most definitely be a junior crowd pleaser.
Whatever model the next coaster may be, KD should take this opportunity to right a wrong from the KECO days, and name it Vortex.