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Every argument in favor of this coaster's existence just reads like marketing fodder to me. It can have as many firsts and category-specific records as it wants to remind me of the "gratitude" I should be expressing, but that doesn't translate into something I think I will enjoy. Braking upside down while spinning sounds absolutely terrible as an experience to me, and apparently, the spinning alone is likely to be too much for many others.
You’re certainly allowed to like or dislike a coaster however you want, but personally I think this attitude is why your posts often come across as… annoying. You’ve made perfectly clear that you won’t enjoy it, but that doesn’t mean most guests won’t and that the coaster won’t be good for the park. Posts like this one don’t seem to acknowledge that nuance.

This attitude reminds me a lot of enthusiasts who complain when a kiddie attraction is announced — they’re upset because they won’t enjoy it regardless of whether it’s good for the park.
 
This attitude reminds me a lot of enthusiasts who complain when a kiddie attraction is announced — they’re upset because they won’t enjoy it regardless of whether it’s good for the park.
yeah, most notoriously the kings dominion 2017 announcement
 
You’re certainly allowed to like or dislike a coaster however you want, but personally I think this attitude is why your posts often come across as… annoying. You’ve made perfectly clear that you won’t enjoy it, but that doesn’t mean most guests won’t and that the coaster won’t be good for the park. Posts like this one don’t seem to acknowledge that nuance.

This attitude reminds me a lot of enthusiasts who complain when a kiddie attraction is announced — they’re upset because they won’t enjoy it regardless of whether it’s good for the park.
Agreed 100%.

I think it's interesting the way you can see two different people looking at this project have their takeaways. Neither @northdetective or I sound like we are likely to ride.

But I learned my lesson with InvadR years ago because I was this negative about it, then I rode it. And it quickly became one of my favorite small woodie coasters around. We don't know to what extent the spinning will be, we don't know how much it will brake, how the forces on the stall will be until anyone rides it.

It's also the attitude/annoyance as you say, that most retorts includes some sort of note of "marketing fodder". Like - I don't know how else to speak to the fact that this coaster is going to be extremely unique. Like, you can appreciate how unique something will be without necessarily having to like it. But it seems in this case those things go hand in hand.

Overall I think this long overarching conversation on the like/dislike of this project has taken so many twists and turns that all that can be said for it anymore is just wait and see what happens.
 
You’re certainly allowed to like or dislike a coaster however you want, but personally I think this attitude is why your posts often come across as… annoying. You’ve made perfectly clear that you won’t enjoy it, but that doesn’t mean most guests won’t and that the coaster won’t be good for the park. Posts like this one don’t seem to acknowledge that nuance.

This attitude reminds me a lot of enthusiasts who complain when a kiddie attraction is announced — they’re upset because they won’t enjoy it regardless of whether it’s good for the park.

That's fine. I take great care to consider perspectives that aren't mine the majority of the time, so if you "caught" me being concerned about my personal preference in this one instance, I don't really mind.

I also don't see how the InvadR comparison applies. The fiscal scale of this investment makes it a make or break moment for a long-struggling park. It's not just another addition, it precludes the addition of something I like (and I feel will have broader appeal) for a very long time. I do not feel it will be good for the park, and I also hate it. I can recap why if you feel I haven't explained the slopposition well enough
 
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I don’t think constantly calling it “slop, sloppification,” or some other variant of “slop” is helping your case. It makes it more difficult to take these posts seriously.

I also don’t think it precludes another coaster “for a very long time” at all with this specific park. Every single detail of this season so far points to SFEC seeing the potential in this park that legacy SF lost sight of 20 years ago, and that they are listening to us. Major renovations to restaurants and themed areas, live entertainment, a flat package with a damn good coaster, bringing back HITP, and building a first of its kind coaster (the last the park received, btw, was Medusa) all make up a colossal, wide range of investment for the park, but rapid and heavy redevelopment and investment are needed here. I don’t think it’s crazy to believe that the next coaster will be no later than 2030, again, with this specific park and its circumstances.
 
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I don’t think constantly calling it “slop, sloppification,” or some other variant of “slop” is helping your case. It makes it more difficult to take these posts seriously.
I think "slop" has become the new "it" word. For a while, it was "epic." Everything was "epic." Now, everything is "slop." Usually, it's for AI stuff, but apparently, it's seeping out into other areas, too. I'll be glad when the trend is over. But then a new "it" word will just come along to replace it. (Remember the 90s, when everything was "EXTREME!"?)

Nevertheless, it's just insulting to all the engineers, construction crew, management, etc, to dismiss this as "slop" at this point.

Of course, it's fine to dislike the concept, or to have reservations about how practical the ride is. I admit, I'm a bit worried about its capacity. And one of the worst things about KK was how unreliable it was, so I do worry that replacing it with a ride that has multiple launches, a sliding station track, and spinning cars might only make the reliability problem even worse. But, for now, I'm giving it the benefit of the doubt, trusting that the people involved know more about this stuff than I do. And that trust is fueled in part by the various improvements we've seen them making throughout the park.
 
in my opinion, use of the word "slop" is more than merited when referring to products whose appeal is superficial, "cheap" in the category-specific record claims I expect, and whose existence I expect will bring about untold suffering among the underclasses, who're actively being sold a revisionist history where nothing better was ever possible. this whole project feels AI conceptualized

How about that train everybody? Any updates on the Skyride RoW?
 
me . whatever a "serf" is it sounds like they get to enjoy a joust in the beautiful Township of Lyndhurst

edit: a previous version of this post referred to the polity as the "Borough of Lyndhurst." This is an embarrassing oversight and I apologize to anybody who found themselves affected by it
 
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in my opinion, use of the word "slop" is more than merited when referring to products whose appeal is superficial, "cheap" in the category-specific record claims I expect, and whose existence I expect will bring about untold suffering among the underclasses, who're actively being sold a revisionist history where nothing better was ever possible. this whole project feels AI conceptualized

How about that train everybody? Any updates on the Skyride RoW?
I have to say, the fact that there’s a user named “melodrama” who liked this post is just perfect.

I think a new transportation ride is going to be a few years out sadly :(
 
I have to say, the fact that there’s a user named “melodrama” who liked this post is just perfect.

I think a new transportation ride is going to be a few years out sadly :(

idk who that is but I always appreciate my supporters. they understand me and my brain

I thought the park was doing okay without a transport ride (especially bc the skyride wasnt actually that long) but having been to much smaller parks recently that have them, I feel it's a big gap in the Great Adventure lineup. most are high capacity attractions and they tend to be appealing to all ages. I think it's an easy, if unsexy, win
 
idk who that is but I always appreciate my supporters. they understand me and my brain

I thought the park was doing okay without a transport ride (especially bc the skyride wasnt actually that long) but having been to much smaller parks recently that have them, I feel it's a big gap in the Great Adventure lineup. most are high capacity attractions and they tend to be appealing to all ages. I think it's an easy, if unsexy, win
idea: hire the company who did the skyway at Legoland and rebuild the skyways to the parks that so big you wish you need to get their faster (great adventure for example)
 
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I hardly ever rode the skyride since I enjoy walking and I never felt the skyride really saved that much time, especially if there was a line for it. Also, for me, part of the fun of walking from one side of the park to the other is spontaneously deciding to ride some of the smaller rides that I might not be thinking about until I see them, like the Teacups or whatever.

But I did really enjoy the skyride during Holiday in the Park. It was a great way to see the lights. The only downside was that it dropped me off in a section of the park where absolutely nothing was happening.
 
idea: hire the company who did the skyway at Legoland and rebuild the skyways to the parks that so big you wish you need to get their faster (great adventure for example)
Better yet: build a new skyway between the DC and Boardwalk sections, running over the main entrance. It doesn’t have to be super long but it would look great in that spot, especially if there is minimal tree clearing.
 
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