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You can on the other tours and experiences. we were with 4 groups for the wolf training one last year. You would think they would remove the tour time on the website if booked full.
 
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  • High rate of closure
  • Down one train.
  • Headlights on only one train operable.
  • Video not operable.
  • What's next?
 
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Being on the receiving end of this was extraordinarily annoying. Traveled down from Ohio with a group of first-time visitors on Sunday. Went straight to the park after eight and a half hours of driving to get a quick ride on Verbolten and the line was JUST being sent back out into the park with ops saying it wouldn't open again that night.

The next day, we rush to the park and guess what? Closed. Not just that, but the closure was PLANNED, and a good two hours after the park opened and after an upset tweet from me and maybe others, they finally tweeted that Verbolten would be closed Monday and Tuesday... A little annoying since it's the headlining attraction right now, so any foreseen, extended closure should be announced. If indeed the problem that occured Sunday required a new part from Germany, they obviously knew the ride would be down for two days while they waited, but didn't mention it till halfway through the next day.

So we returned on Wednesday on a whim because we had a few hours to kill in the afternoon and rode once. Returned today expecting to really get a day's worth of rides, and it closed around 2:30 and showed no signs of opening at all.

So we had four days at Busch Gardens with Verbolten being the main draw for us, and only got to ride it once. The park didn't communicate very well, which left a sour taste in our mouths first thing in the morning on their first full day there when the parking attendant hands us the slip that it won't be operating - if we'd seen that on Twitter, we would've delayed our trip (which, I think, is precisely why they DIDN'T tweet it).

I don't know. It's frustrating. I know that the industry standard is to say "We don't know when it will reopen" whenever anything goes wrong, but it's clear that excessive downtime will be a part of Verbolten's life. In that, I don't think it's wrong to have operators say "We have to perform a computer override due to a blocking issue. It usually takes two or three hours, but we can't know for sure" or "Unfortunately, a technical issue requires that a worker from the ride's manufacturer works with us, and we won't be able to open the ride for the rest of the day." As it is, being indecisive is really not doing anyone any favors. Even if timetables are left out of it, it would just be nice if visitors had some idea what the problem was, because when it closed at 2:30 and all anyone would say is "We don't know when it will reopen," that didn't really inspire us to stick around or anything. Even saying "There's an issue with the computer sensors on the drop track" would at least set up a scenario in my mind where I could envision how much work might be required, and it would be very beneficial, I think, to at least say "Things are going well. Everything's on track. At this point, it looks like the ride may open within the hour," etc to the people who continue to wait or line-up for it to reopen. Being open-ended is really only going to disappoint.

I was very, very frustrated, and truthfully, if we didn't meander over to the park on Wednesday to waste a couple of hours, we wouldn't have gotten on Verbolten at all on this four-day visit... Totally unacceptable, if only because I felt very out-of-the-loop. :\
 
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^ These are the stories I hate to read. 4 days. One ride. That's pitiful.

Just heard that Verbolten reopened at around 6:40 and hearing that employees are telling guests that Mach Tower will be down for the rest of today and almost certainly tomorrow as well.
 
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Thanks for the update! From what I understand, blue is the only one with headlights that (occasionally) work.
 
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To theme park nerds such as ourselves, yes, we would love it for team members to give guests an idea as to what is causing downtime and an ETA as to when it will be back up and running. Unfortunately, if you tell the general public a time, they will hold you to it, and will complain if it rides are not up and running by that time, creating negative relations with guests. This is why the park chooses to give no estimates, as each shutdown can create more problems than originally thought. What may appear to be a simple fault that just needs to be cleared can turn into something major very easily.

Also, most team members really have no idea whatsoever as to what causes ride downtime, so them spreading misinformation isn't necessarily a good idea. And, to the general public, if you were to tell them that a computer override is needed to clear a blocking issue, they would be utterly confused.

To put Verbolten's downtime into perspective, DarKastle went months with having what seemed to be at least two ride escorts a day following its opening. It's taken years to finally learn the ride's personality and get it in check.
 
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newsie said:
Unfortunately, if you tell the general public a time, they will hold you to it, and will complain if it rides are not up and running by that time, creating negative relations with guests. This is why the park chooses to give no estimates, as each shutdown can create more problems than originally thought. What may appear to be a simple fault that just needs to be cleared can turn into something major very easily.

Also, most team members really have no idea whatsoever as to what causes ride downtime, so them spreading misinformation isn't necessarily a good idea. And, to the general public, if you were to tell them that a computer override is needed to clear a blocking issue, they would be utterly confused.

THIS! As a former ride op, I wholly agree with all of this. Excepting that at major attractions, several of the TMs do want to know exactly what is wrong with the ride. And yes, the GP only really understand the word "broken" or "technical difficulties." Try to explain PLCs or even that if the gates don't close properly that trains can't be sent then they only get confused. Also, I do remember a shutdown during which maintenance ended up fixing three more things beyond the original problem, so time estimates are useless.

I also found it hilarious when the GP asked for time estimates during weather shutdowns. Even if there was radar at the ride, storms are still unpredictable...
 
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GP are craaazy and any ride attendant learns to fear saying a word. You tell them it's down for technical problems and occasionally they go "ITS BROKEN? OMG IM NOT RIDING IT ANYMORE IT'S DANGEROUS". And time estimates, oh boy. I remember one time someone asked me how long the queue was for one ride, I told them my best guess, they decided it was too long and wanted to come back later. Later on it breaks down and stays down all afternoon. They blame me for not warning them. Sometimes they have a go at you for not knowing for certain what the queue line is, and you try and explain that it varies depending on a lot of factors and they stare blankly at you.

I became a fan of the "I'm not sure, CHANGE SUBJECT DRAMATICALLY and have a chat with them" approach.
 
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redsoxfan787 said:
Hopefully not >:|

I would not count on the lines at BGW being short. It reeks for those of us who hate crowds/lines
 
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Peter R. said:
redsoxfan787 said:
Hopefully not >:|

I would not count on the lines at BGW being short. It reeks for those of us who hate crowds/lines
I have to agree with you. I'm one of those types that don't like to stand in really long lines, that's why I go in the late afternoon to most parks.

One thing I can say is the wait from the entrance of the queue is 35min when everything is running right.
 
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For the length of that queue, 35 minutes is excellent. When yellow finally comes back from vacation, it'll prolly be under 30.

Also, has the ERT been going as advertised in the mornings?
 
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At 1:50 PM Saturday: Green, Blue, Red, Orange about every 50 seconds.

http://buschgardensnews.com/page/bgwcam
 
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