Verbolten (Project Announcement Fall 2011 Through Opening Discussion August 2012)

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coasternd said:
It really bothers me that you can see DarKastle's show building. They really should have continued the castle facade on all visible areas.
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It is not like it would have been that much more. The fact it is visible really detracts from the area immensely. That is why I say expect little to no theming in regards to 2012's building.

Haberdasher1973 said:
I slip and do that a lot; to me, Disney's Hollywood Studios will always be Disney-MGM Studios... ;)
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Go as much as I do and you get used to it. Glad to see you picked up on it though.
 
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I'm interested in what fun experiences the event building will bring to the ride. No other coaster at the park has anything like the event building will, although Nessie had some kicking effects back in the day.

I still don't get why it's called the "event building," though. Can someone explain that to me? Are we going to be watching a show or attending a party while on the ride? I think it's odd.
 
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I know, but does that merit the name "event building?"

"Ooh, I hear this ride has an awesome event on it!"
"Well let's go check it out!"

That's like calling a ride element an event.

"Say that cobra roll event on Alpengeist is sweet."

I don't know, it's still weird. It's not like TH13TEEN has an "event building."
 
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So I've been rollercoaster internet browsing and Zierer built "several" Anton Schwarzopf designs when his company went bankrupt in 1987; the first of which was Lisebergbanan. So we can add that to the list of coaster along with Wicked that they have built. Plus we all should know that Zierer, B&M, Intamin, etc don't necessarily/actually design the rides, people like Werner Stengel do. He designed Apollo's Chariot for example. And in some cases like Holiday World the (former) president, of the park, Will Koch, helps design the ride and hires people like Gravity Group to build it. The manufacturer of a coaster doesn't really decide how good it will me. Just some food for thought.
 
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o-m-g...i like can't believe wikipedia would lie to us like that...hmph.....:p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo%27s_Chariot
 
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Stengel did however design the Batman Inverts. For some reason Unagi's statement is true and Wikipedia cited the wrong source (not like any coaster enthusiasts actually maintain the page anyways).
 
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Hi!

Stengel`s area of work was the "Dynamics (Rev.)" by Apollo`s Chariot!
Not the Layout or the Design!

The most Layout from B&M Coaster comes from B&M!

The Fantasyland Edmonton in Kanada has layouted a rollercoaster (Speedracer Triple Loop) by Stengel and the manufacturer was Zierer! But the Rollercoaster was never builded!

Or

Kings Island/USA has layouted a roller coaster (Speedracer) by Stengel!The Manufacturer was Zierer!Never builded!

These were only 2 examples of some! where Zierer roller coasters has suggested which have not been realised, however!

All the same for which reason, in particular the cooperation with the engineer's office Stengel!


@B-Mac In my opinion has Stengel only made the Dynamics not the Layout/Design!
 
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Looking back through this thread, I've noticed that there's quite a few people who seem to be knocking on the logo. What's up with up? I like the logo. The lightning bolt V is kind of clever and not stupid looking, and I like the red letters. All in all, it certainly isn't the park's worst logo attempt. (*cough*EiTA*cough*)
 
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Well the point I was trying to make was to give Zierer a chance, and that the manufacturer doesn't always design the ride, they may most of the time but not always. Have we any idea who the designer is anyways? I imagine a park exec may have been a major contributor to it's design due to reuse of BBW footers.

PS according to the roller coaster database Stengel's firm did design Apollo.
 
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I just think $54 million might be a bit much to bet on a company who has never done anything like this. Intamin just finished up a coaster almost identical to this one at a cost of $24 million.
 
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Swiftman said:
I just think $54 million might be a bit much to bet on a company who has never done anything like this. Intamin just finished up a coaster almost identical to this one at a cost of $24 million.
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I think it is the event building and the extensive theming that's costing so much more. I haven't gotten to ride it yet, but Cheetah Hunt isn't overly themed.
 
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Cheetah Hunt is just a traditional coaster with not much added in terms of themeing. The special effects and other themeing elements are going to cost a good chunk of that $54 million. This also has to be one of the most expensive roller coasters ever...
 
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Verbolten thread. Not Stengel did this and that. If that is going to be a topic of discussion then feel free to create one and carry on there.
 
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