Rumor United Parks, Resorts, And... Cruise Ships?!

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warfelg said:
Ok let me try to spin a positive out of @Zachary ’s point of bad for the environment:
What if instead of big ships this is a smaller sized cruise line? Something smaller that went to educational with the ecology of what you were visiting. Offers of being able to do positive things like beach clean ups, ocean clean ups.

I know that I’m likely hoping for something unlikely here but just trying to think of a way to spin this more positive.
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As someone who's been on a few cruises I can tell you right now guests aren't looking to do any cleaning anywhere especially if they're dumping thousands of dollars for a cruise. They wanna enjoy themselves by partying and drinking and visiting ports in other countries where they can shop, dine, relax on the beach and visit historical sites. Some ports even offer fun outdoor activities like ziplining, parasailing, snorkeling/scuba. etc...

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If it's just licensing deals, that's fine. It could make some money for the brand. I could see cross-promotions and package deals, etc.

Anything other than this, sounds way too risky.
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As I said in a previous post, if they do a joint-venture with a major investment firm they could be successful. This has worked very well for the Virgin Group as they partnered with Bain Capital to help launch their Virgin Voyages cruise line. One drawback with this is if they started now it would take a while to get going as it takes two to three years to build a new cruise ship, so your suggestion of licensing deals and cross-promotions seems more feasible with an existing cruise line. The question with this is... what cruise company will be willing to work with United Parks as the major ones don't really need them as they're already making money.
 
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Given the reviews on the Margaritaville cruises doesn't look so hot (no idea on financials though, so take this with a huge grain of salt), what if that operator simply switches licenses and rebrands accordingly.

Of course, Margaritaville is an IP of some kind, kind of hard to find a PRKS IP either not itself licensed to them from someone else or tied to animals at SeaWorld that they're trying to distance themselves from.
 
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Unagi said:
As someone who's been on a few cruises I can tell you right now guests aren't looking to do any cleaning anywhere especially if they're dumping thousands of dollars for a cruise. They wanna enjoy themselves by partying and drinking and visiting ports in other countries where they can shop, dine, relax on the beach and visit historical sites. Some ports even offer fun outdoor activities like ziplining, parasailing, snorkeling/scuba. etc...
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Majority of cruises sure. But I've done more cruises like these Top Educational Cruises On Small Ships For The Academics (FYI a whale protection cruise in Nova Scotia has been one of my favorites) exist. They are smaller, boutique, and often sell out because of their more limited natures.

I've booked 3-4 cruises through this company: Specials and they have all been far better and more special cruises than anything I've ever done on Royal Caribbean or Norwegian.

The conservation efforts of these cruises aren't solely go on them to work. The one I did with National Geographic took us out on dingy boats around an island near Nova Scotia through a popular cod breeding ground, and along the way we helped fish trash off the floating surface. It was an amazing experience because while we were sitting there a whale pod came up for air, so we got to see that, we ended up cleaning up 500 pounds of trash, and as a reward for the cleanup the team took us to a popular spot where seals hang out. But at night you still get the normal cruise activities of eating, drinking, and partying.
 
warfelg said:
Majority of cruises sure. But I've done more cruises like these Top Educational Cruises On Small Ships For The Academics (FYI a whale protection cruise in Nova Scotia has been one of my favorites) exist. They are smaller, boutique, and often sell out because of their more limited natures.

I've booked 3-4 cruises through this company: Specials and they have all been far better and more special cruises than anything I've ever done on Royal Caribbean or Norwegian.

The conservation efforts of these cruises aren't solely go on them to work. The one I did with National Geographic took us out on dingy boats around an island near Nova Scotia through a popular cod breeding ground, and along the way we helped fish trash off the floating surface. It was an amazing experience because while we were sitting there a whale pod came up for air, so we got to see that, we ended up cleaning up 500 pounds of trash, and as a reward for the cleanup the team took us to a popular spot where seals hang out. But at night you still get the normal cruise activities of eating, drinking, and partying.
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Nothing about current park ops or the way the company is going makes me think they could pull that type venture off. Plus it doesn't fit in with the mass market business ventures off theme parks.

Personally though I think those sound really neat.
 
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tursiops said:
Nothing about current park ops or the way the company is going makes me think they could pull that type venture off. Plus it doesn't fit in with the mass market business ventures off theme parks.

Personally though I think those sound really neat.
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They could just do a co-op with someone.
 
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warfelg said:
Majority of cruises sure. But I've done more cruises like these Top Educational Cruises On Small Ships For The Academics (FYI a whale protection cruise in Nova Scotia has been one of my favorites) exist. They are smaller, boutique, and often sell out because of their more limited natures.

I've booked 3-4 cruises through this company: Specials and they have all been far better and more special cruises than anything I've ever done on Royal Caribbean or Norwegian.

The conservation efforts of these cruises aren't solely go on them to work. The one I did with National Geographic took us out on dingy boats around an island near Nova Scotia through a popular cod breeding ground, and along the way we helped fish trash off the floating surface. It was an amazing experience because while we were sitting there a whale pod came up for air, so we got to see that, we ended up cleaning up 500 pounds of trash, and as a reward for the cleanup the team took us to a popular spot where seals hang out. But at night you still get the normal cruise activities of eating, drinking, and partying.
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This is a small niche market and if PRKS was serious about tapping into the cruise industry they're gonna want to go where the masses are going to make serious money.
 
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What if this is just some sort of partnership with an existing cruise line. Like some sort of cross promotion thing. Or even a Family Entertainment Center on an existing ship, like Sesame Place on the Carnival Celebration. I do remember there being some interesting terms in the Sesame Street contract with regards to FECs.
 
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That's kinda what I would expect, maybe a deal with an existing cruise line. Throw a couple of small coasters and kiddie rides on a ship and call it SeaWorld on the Seas (maybe "Atlantic/Pacific/Other SeaWorld"). They get to advertise a floating park under their name, cruise line gets to advertise they have a floating park on their ship.
 
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Gavin said:
What if this is just some sort of partnership with an existing cruise line. Like some sort of cross promotion thing. Or even a Family Entertainment Center on an existing ship, like Sesame Place on the Carnival Celebration. I do remember there being some interesting terms in the Sesame Street contract with regards to FECs.
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This would make the most sense in the short term. And if there is one cruise line I can see them potentially working with right now it's MSC Cruises, which is relatively new to the North American market and are trying to amp up their fleet.
 
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